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Post by Olgrligm on Oct 3, 2014 21:48:45 GMT
bollox it is hodgsons job to select the best performing england players.therefor he has to be at the britt on monday night there is simply no excuse he has hidden agenda re stoke city. i would even have crouchie on the bench to give us a plan b if needed. he should have been sacked after the inept embarrassing world cup.i am english and therefore an england fan but that cunt woy is making me turn my back on my team. He could watch it on tv and also my have sent someone else to watch him for all we know, I can't see an agenda, I can see a manager thats wrongly deciding he's not good enough for some reason. He has chosen to only pick 21 players for his 23 man squad and only three centre backs! It is a massive snub! The only think that swings the meter more towards 'incompetent fuckwit' than 'malicious fuckwit' is that the other best English defender, Curtis Davies, is also missing from the squad. It winds me up. He has to go and he has to go now. He hasn't a clue.
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Post by swampySCFC on Oct 3, 2014 21:54:53 GMT
Old useless fart. I mean can we really not do better.
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Post by ukcstokie on Oct 4, 2014 11:20:54 GMT
Ryan's omission discussed on Football Focus today.
Southgate said he just needs to play well especially against the big clubs and he will get a chance.
But he has been playing well especially against the big clubs and his chance hasn't come. And it won't.
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Post by stokeramblers on Oct 4, 2014 11:27:55 GMT
Ryan's omission discussed on Football Focus today. Southgate said he just needs to play well especially against the big clubs and he will get a chance. But he has been playing well especially against the big clubs and his chance hasn't come. And it won't. Mmm yes Gareth, like that clean sheet against the league Champions. What a crock
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Post by Linx on Oct 4, 2014 11:35:52 GMT
I can only assume it's his pass completion that lets him down. He wipes the floor with Jagielka and Cahill on the other aspects of a defender's game, looking at the little table displayed on Football Focus, but he was 10-15% behind on pass completion. That nonsense that Southgate spouted, as he squirmed with the uncomfortable truth about Shawcross' non-selection, just doesn't add up. Ryan has been playing constantly at Premier League level for more than six seasons, and has done increasinlgy well against 'the big clubs'. So try again, Gareth.
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Oct 4, 2014 12:25:29 GMT
I can only assume it's his pass completion that lets him down. He wipes the floor with Jagielka and Cahill on the other aspects of a defender's game, looking at the little table displayed on Football Focus, but he was 10-15% behind on pass completion. That nonsense that Southgate spouted, as he squirmed with the uncomfortable truth about Shawcross' non-selection, just doesn't add up. Ryan has been playing constantly at Premier League level for more than six seasons, and has done increasinlgy well against 'the big clubs'. So try again, Gareth. I don't know and I'm guessing but Ryan plays a lot more long balls than the other two and a lot of the time it's 50/50 whether they are won or lost. Anyway we just have to accept he's not going to be picked while Woy from Cwoydon is there. Southgate is another penalty missing yes man biding his time for his opportunity to be an England manager. And he will be just after Stuart Pearce leads the disastrous 2018 campaign!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2014 12:45:03 GMT
Ryan's omission discussed on Football Focus today. Southgate said he just needs to play well especially against the big clubs and he will get a chance. But he has been playing well especially against the big clubs and his chance hasn't come. And it won't. Given that Southgate and Hodgson go on scouting missions together, this is as close to the horses mouth as it's likely to get. I didn't see Football Focus, but that's quite a strange, nothing response. FFS, how long does he need to demonstrate this ability for? Seems that Ryan's lack of exposure to European/top level football might be a factor for them (which is why a slow introduction would have been an intelligent approach) Of course, inexperience doesn't seem to stop them selecting other players.
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Post by ukcstokie on Oct 4, 2014 15:00:45 GMT
Ryan's omission discussed on Football Focus today. Southgate said he just needs to play well especially against the big clubs and he will get a chance. But he has been playing well especially against the big clubs and his chance hasn't come. And it won't. Given that Southgate and Hodgson go on scouting missions together, this is as close to the horses mouth as it's likely to get. I didn't see Football Focus, but that's quite a strange, nothing response. FFS, how long does he need to demonstrate this ability for? Seems that Ryan's lack of exposure to European/top level football might be a factor for them (which is why a slow introduction would have been an intelligent approach) Of course, inexperience doesn't seem to stop them selecting other players. But when do the Everton defenders get Champions League exposure?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2014 8:36:34 GMT
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Post by cobhamstokey on Oct 5, 2014 8:45:16 GMT
Great player and in particular great defender is Ryan and should be in the squad but if there's one thing that infuriates me it's when he kicks the ball out of play conceding possession in dangerous areas (see there first goal).
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2014 11:29:28 GMT
Truth is that Ryan is STILL suffering from the Ramsey incident and that was over 4 years ago now!!!! Woy, and just about everyone else in positions of power are right there up Arsene's arse.
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Post by slother on Oct 5, 2014 12:54:51 GMT
Stones injured. SHAWCROSS FOR ENGLAND!
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Post by andrewguk on Oct 5, 2014 13:18:07 GMT
"Stones injury update
Man Utd 2-1 Everton Posted at 14:07 We're hearing that John Stones sustained an ankle ligament injury at Old Trafford. No idea yet if that rules him out of the England squad."
From the BBC
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2014 13:28:43 GMT
"Stones injury update Man Utd 2-1 Everton Posted at 14:07 We're hearing that John Stones sustained an ankle ligament injury at Old Trafford. No idea yet if that rules him out of the England squad." From the BBC When Woy calls, tell him to fuck off.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2014 13:30:59 GMT
Truth is that Ryan is STILL suffering from the Ramsey incident and that was over 4 years ago now!!!! Woy, and just about everyone else in positions of power are right there up Arsene's arse. I don't believe it has anything to do with ramsey challenge, this is just another excuse for fans to try any add extra fuel to the fire with arsenal. His game against sweden did a lot of damage, and i cant believe people actually make the excuse that he was cold when he came on. He is an experienced player who should be switched on as soon as he walks on the pitch. If he went to a bigger club he would be straight in the team and that is how it has been for too many years. He had a chance and did not take it and every excuse in the world wont alter the fact he fucked it up. If he keeps doing what he is doing then his chance will come again, but for now he will have to wait and keep playing well consistantly.
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Post by 1982stokie on Oct 5, 2014 13:50:52 GMT
Truth is that Ryan is STILL suffering from the Ramsey incident and that was over 4 years ago now!!!! Woy, and just about everyone else in positions of power are right there up Arsene's arse. I don't believe it has anything to do with ramsey challenge, this is just another excuse for fans to try any add extra fuel to the fire with arsenal. His game against sweden did a lot of damage, and i cant believe people actually make the excuse that he was cold when he came on. He is an experienced player who should be switched on as soon as he walks on the pitch. If he went to a bigger club he would be straight in the team and that is how it has been for too many years. He had a chance and did not take it and every excuse in the world wont alter the fact he fucked it up. If he keeps doing what he is doing then his chance will come again, but for now he will have to wait and keep playing well consistantly. Not saying your wrong but since then we have seen players like Cahill given a terrible time by players like Kenny Miller and most other defenders being terrible in general. I if my memory severves me correctly Cahill was marking Zlatan that game and completely disappeared. If We wrote of any player that had a bad 10 minute spell we wouldn't have anyone. I would also suggest that the fact that Woy hasn't even watched him suggest their is at least some thing else behind his repeated omission.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2014 13:59:13 GMT
I don't believe it has anything to do with ramsey challenge, this is just another excuse for fans to try any add extra fuel to the fire with arsenal. His game against sweden did a lot of damage, and i cant believe people actually make the excuse that he was cold when he came on. He is an experienced player who should be switched on as soon as he walks on the pitch. If he went to a bigger club he would be straight in the team and that is how it has been for too many years. He had a chance and did not take it and every excuse in the world wont alter the fact he fucked it up. If he keeps doing what he is doing then his chance will come again, but for now he will have to wait and keep playing well consistantly. Not saying your wrong but since then we have seen players like Cahill given a terrible time by players like Kenny Miller and most other defenders being terrible in general. I if my memory severves me correctly Cahill was marking Zlatan that game and completely disappeared. If We wrote of any player that had a bad 10 minute spell we wouldn't have anyone. I would also suggest that the fact that Woy hasn't even watched him suggest their is at least some thing else behind his repeated omission. Cahill is playing champions league football season after season and this is probably a deciding factor, plus he is our best central defender. If ryan keeps performing then he will get another chance, he just needs to keep making enough noise and eventually he will be heard. He should have at least been given another oppotunity shortly after but he paid the price for his poor showing.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2014 14:23:08 GMT
I still think that the influential ones take notice of the mindless chanting whenever Ryan plays in London. Mud sticks and all that. If on the other hand he played for Arsenal. God what a horrible thought!!!!!
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Post by luke45 on Oct 5, 2014 14:24:05 GMT
If Stones does drop out Hodgson will bring in someone who can play at right back. He's picked six defenders, two of each position:
CB - Jagielka, Cahill LB - Baines, Gibbs RB - Clyne, Stones
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Post by charliebamba on Oct 5, 2014 14:29:32 GMT
Stones injured. Who is the obvious replacement? I guarantee Woy will pick Tyler Blackett
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Post by Olgrligm on Oct 5, 2014 14:31:09 GMT
If Stones does drop out Hodgson will bring in someone who can play at right back. He's picked six defenders, two of each position: CB - Jagielka, Cahill LB - Baines, Gibbs RB - Clyne, Stones If it was two for each position then there'd be four centre backs.
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Post by tazi on Oct 5, 2014 14:38:12 GMT
Fcuk off Hodgson.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2014 15:14:29 GMT
There's only one sensible answer to Stones being out for several weeks, isn't there??
I'm going to stock-up on popcorn...
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Oct 5, 2014 15:17:44 GMT
Woy wanker has his favourites,take that cunt of an England captain Rooney,Woy reckons he does not have a bad temperament, and the sending off last week is not like him at all.
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Post by ukcstokie on Oct 5, 2014 15:31:28 GMT
Truth is that Ryan is STILL suffering from the Ramsey incident and that was over 4 years ago now!!!! Woy, and just about everyone else in positions of power are right there up Arsene's arse. I don't believe it has anything to do with ramsey challenge, this is just another excuse for fans to try any add extra fuel to the fire with arsenal. His game against sweden did a lot of damage, and i cant believe people actually make the excuse that he was cold when he came on. He is an experienced player who should be switched on as soon as he walks on the pitch. If he went to a bigger club he would be straight in the team and that is how it has been for too many years. He had a chance and did not take it and every excuse in the world wont alter the fact he fucked it up. If he keeps doing what he is doing then his chance will come again, but for now he will have to wait and keep playing well consistantly. Roy listens to the media - he meets with the football press to discuss squads with them. He has clearly been influenced by some of the media's view on Ryan.
How often has Ryan been used to being a sub? He's made one sub appearance for us in the last 6 seasons. Coming on during a game is about getting up to speed quickly with the pace of the match. With where people are playing. In most positions you get a bit of time to adjust. At centre half you don't (that why centre halves are rarely changed during a match except for injury). It's not about being "experienced player who should be switched on as soon as he walks on the pitch" - that just rubbish.
He didn't get "a chance". A chance isn't 18 minutes of football. How many footballers take a few games to start performing let alone not even a quarter of a match.
He was hung out to dry against Sweden. If Hodgson was interested in seeing how he'd do then he could have started him (it was a friendly after all), or even put him on at half-time. Cahill should not have been allowed to ditch marking Ibrahimovic to throw Ryan in.
Ryan didn't cover himself in glory that night, but judging a footballer on 18 minutes of football is just prosperous. Cahill was shit that night and was responsible for several of the goals. Why hasn't he been flung in the shit bin?
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Post by scfcno1fan on Oct 5, 2014 15:38:34 GMT
He's already said he will draft Chambers in from the U21s.
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Post by spitthedog on Oct 5, 2014 15:58:54 GMT
Truth is that Ryan is STILL suffering from the Ramsey incident and that was over 4 years ago now!!!! Woy, and just about everyone else in positions of power are right there up Arsene's arse. I don't believe it has anything to do with ramsey challenge, this is just another excuse for fans to try any add extra fuel to the fire with arsenal. His game against sweden did a lot of damage, and i cant believe people actually make the excuse that he was cold when he came on. He is an experienced player who should be switched on as soon as he walks on the pitch. If he went to a bigger club he would be straight in the team and that is how it has been for too many years. He had a chance and did not take it and every excuse in the world wont alter the fact he fucked it up. If he keeps doing what he is doing then his chance will come again, but for now he will have to wait and keep playing well consistantly. That's the most objective piece of writing I have seen on this subject on this board. It is also about what Hodgson saw in Ryan in training which may have also influenced his thinking.
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Post by luke45 on Oct 5, 2014 16:01:51 GMT
If Stones does drop out Hodgson will bring in someone who can play at right back. He's picked six defenders, two of each position: CB - Jagielka, Cahill LB - Baines, Gibbs RB - Clyne, Stones If it was two for each position then there'd be four centre backs. Technically speaking yes but that is how he will look at it. If Stones is out he has no right back cover for Nathaniel Clyne if he got injured. He may bring up Chambers from the under 21s but I can't see Southgate being too chuffed about that for games against Estonia and San Marino. The only capable right back I can think of who isn't in the under 21s, is match fit and has been called up by Hodgson before is Martin Kelly. I wouldn't rule him out being drafted in.
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Post by Birchesheadpotter on Oct 5, 2014 16:26:27 GMT
I don't believe it has anything to do with ramsey challenge, this is just another excuse for fans to try any add extra fuel to the fire with arsenal. His game against sweden did a lot of damage, and i cant believe people actually make the excuse that he was cold when he came on. He is an experienced player who should be switched on as soon as he walks on the pitch. If he went to a bigger club he would be straight in the team and that is how it has been for too many years. He had a chance and did not take it and every excuse in the world wont alter the fact he fucked it up. If he keeps doing what he is doing then his chance will come again, but for now he will have to wait and keep playing well consistantly. That's the most objective piece of writing I have seen on this subject on this board. It is also about what Hodgson saw in Ryan in training which may have also influenced his thinking. Objective or not, he's wrong.
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Post by spitthedog on Oct 5, 2014 16:29:23 GMT
Woy wanker has his favourites,take that cunt of an England captain Rooney,Woy reckons he does not have a bad temperament, and the sending off last week is not like him at all. That's just plain ridiculous Are you seriously suggesting that a) Rooney isnt good enough for the national team and is only in because he is a favourite? b) it is good management to publicly criticise a senior member of his squad, provoking an whole media drama about his relations with his captain. Did you ever hear Ferguson criticise his players in public?
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