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Post by Stafford-Stokie on Oct 1, 2014 20:09:17 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2014 6:37:44 GMT
Hodgson is a joke, he should have been at the Brit on Monday - no excuses.
If Ryan is overlooked again I hope England don't qualify, it's the only way we'll be rid of Roy.
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Post by malteser68 on Oct 2, 2014 6:40:37 GMT
There's no 'if' coz he is going to be overlooked for sure. Woy didn't even bother to turn up at the Brit on a day when this was the only match. This means he has no interest in any if the players on the pitch
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Post by foster on Oct 2, 2014 7:01:14 GMT
Hodgson is a joke, he should have been at the Brit on Monday - no excuses. If Ryan is overlooked again I hope England don't qualify, it's the only way we'll be rid of Roy. Should he really have been there? He's a wanker but he has a scouting team and a tv (with player Cam) I assume. |
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Post by Plave on Oct 2, 2014 7:04:38 GMT
Hodgson is a joke, he should have been at the Brit on Monday - no excuses. SO he should come all the way up here to watch one player he can see on sky if he's really interested? The obsession with Hodgson on here is small time and embarrassing, he goes to Southampton because he can have 7 or 8 potential squad players to watch depending on who they're playing. Ryan is a long shot and that's it here, I wouldn't come to watch us either if I were England manager. |
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Post by silverdollar on Oct 2, 2014 7:51:57 GMT
Most of you won't remember those days when the needle used to get stuck when playing a record!
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Post by ukcstokie on Oct 2, 2014 8:32:22 GMT
Hodgson is a joke, he should have been at the Brit on Monday - no excuses. If Ryan is overlooked again I hope England don't qualify, it's the only way we'll be rid of Roy. Should he really have been there? He's a wanker but he has a scouting team and a tv (with player Cam) I assume. Of course he should. He's paid £3.5million a year. £60k/week. When England haven't a match pretty much his only job is to watch football matches. If he can't be bothered to come and see the only Premier League match on then WTF is he getting paid for? Really? Just because it's on Sky should have no bearing on the decision anyway. He can watch every game he wants anyway (Sky can surely provide him the full unedited coverage of every Premier League game if he wants). When you're checking out players you need to see them live - watch their positioning, how switched on they are all the time - not just when the camera's on them. Roy could have seen how Ryan and Williamson are doing, but no he couldn't be bothered. Couldn't be bothered to even turn up for work and earn that nearly £10,000 that would have been paid by the FA to him for that day's work. Shocking. |
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Post by ukcstokie on Oct 2, 2014 8:39:18 GMT
Hodgson is a joke, he should have been at the Brit on Monday - no excuses. SO he should come all the way up here to watch one player he can see on sky if he's really interested? The obsession with Hodgson on here is small time and embarrassing, he goes to Southampton because he can have 7 or 8 potential squad players to watch depending on who they're playing. Ryan is a long shot and that's it here, I wouldn't come to watch us either if I were England manager. What drive all this way, to do HIS JOB and get paid an astonishing amount of money? It's not like he's had to do a full day's work before hand is it. It's his friggin job to watch football matches. I wish my boss was as understanding as you. |
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Oct 2, 2014 8:40:17 GMT
Ryan will be playing in the Premiership long after Woys gone.  |
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Post by ukcstokie on Oct 2, 2014 8:46:52 GMT
Most of you won't remember those days when the needle used to get stuck when playing a record! Given how Roy seems to have no brain for himself and only picks those identified by the media, and how the media seemed to realise after the Ryan's Man City performance that he is actually a very good centre-half, then this does seem to be a valid discussion at this point? |
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Post by coates on Oct 2, 2014 8:56:38 GMT
Hodgson is a joke, he should have been at the Brit on Monday - no excuses. SO he should come all the way up here to watch one player he can see on sky if he's really interested? The obsession with Hodgson on here is small time and embarrassing, he goes to Southampton because he can have 7 or 8 potential squad players to watch depending on who they're playing. Ryan is a long shot and that's it here, I wouldn't come to watch us either if I were England manager. Ryan has never been given a fair chance, how many fuck ups have players like smalling and jones made? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2014 8:58:42 GMT
Most of you won't remember those days when the needle used to get stuck when playing a record! Given how Roy seems to have no brain for himself and only picks those identified by the media, and how the media seemed to realise after the Ryan's Man City performance that he is actually a very good centre-half, then this does seem to be a valid discussion at this point? what? for the 3,678,983rd time you mean? it IS getting fecking boring having these threads virtually every bloody day. we ALL know everyone's opinions on this subject (in fact we could probably all come up with everyone's posts for them before they even make them given the number of times it's been discussed) and people moaning on here isn't going to change anything. i have no issue with people having and expressing an opinion as that's what this board is for but when it's on the same subject on an almost daily basis then it does get incredibly and utterly fuckin tedious! yes, people don't like Woy yes, Ryan is being overlooked so we hate Woy even more yes, Woy goes to Sotuhampton a lot No, he's never been here that about covers it doesn't it or should i wait for yet another thread tomorrow to see if i can really get my head around it? |
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Post by jpm64 on Oct 2, 2014 9:01:15 GMT
Given how Roy seems to have no brain for himself and only picks those identified by the media, and how the media seemed to realise after the Ryan's Man City performance that he is actually a very good centre-half, then this does seem to be a valid discussion at this point? what, for the 3,678,983rd time you mean? I think it's reasonable to discuss on the day he is due to name his squad ? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2014 9:04:39 GMT
what, for the 3,678,983rd time you mean? I think it's reasonable to discuss on the day he is due to name his squad ? and every other fucking day then someone has some tenuous excuse as to why it's valid then as well  |
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Post by jpm64 on Oct 2, 2014 9:10:43 GMT
I think it's reasonable to discuss on the day he is due to name his squad ? and every other fucking day then someone has some tenuous excuse as to why it's valid then as well Fair enough and sorry to go on but I don't think today IS tenuous  Anyway he wont get picked and then the MB will again go in to meltdown...... So prepare to be annoyed even more later  As long as the 3 W's continue to represent the mighty Ireland I'll be happy  |
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Post by spongebobflathead on Oct 2, 2014 9:12:06 GMT
Same old discussion same old blinkered stoke , whilst i agree Ryan hasn't been given a fair crack of the whip ,when we talk about consistency he hasn't been his usual self , he's had a few dodgy performances this term !
If Roy had been to all six stoke games to watch Ryan and decided to leave it I wouldn't argue , a run of games more like man city and newcastle and he can feel hard done by !
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Post by ukcstokie on Oct 2, 2014 9:15:52 GMT
I think it's reasonable to discuss on the day he is due to name his squad ? and every other fucking day then someone has some tenuous excuse as to why it's valid then as well OK. Let's not discuss things related to Stoke City on this message board when they're in the news because they have been discussed before then? Or, if you're not interested in discussing this again, then just don't open the thread? |
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Post by Clem Fandango on Oct 2, 2014 9:19:53 GMT
Same old discussion same old blinkered stoke , whilst i agree Ryan hasn't been given a fair crack of the whip ,when we talk about consistency he hasn't been his usual self , he's had a few dodgy performances this term ! If Roy had been to all six stoke games to watch Ryan and decided to leave it I wouldn't argue , a run of games more like man city and newcastle and he can feel hard done by ! I'd agree with that but out of those who will get picked ahead of him isn't Cahill the only one who has been consistent this season? |
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Post by ukcstokie on Oct 2, 2014 9:20:54 GMT
Given how Roy seems to have no brain for himself and only picks those identified by the media, and how the media seemed to realise after the Ryan's Man City performance that he is actually a very good centre-half, then this does seem to be a valid discussion at this point? what? for the 3,678,983rd time you mean? it IS getting fecking boring having these threads virtually every bloody day. we ALL know everyone's opinions on this subject (in fact we could probably all come up with everyone's posts for them before they even make them given the number of times it's been discussed) and people moaning on here isn't going to change anything. i have no issue with people having and expressing an opinion as that's what this board is for but when it's on the same subject on an almost daily basis then it does get incredibly and utterly fuckin tedious! yes, people don't like Woy yes, Ryan is being overlooked so we hate Woy even more yes, Woy goes to Sotuhampton a lot No, he's never been here that about covers it doesn't it or should i wait for yet another thread tomorrow to see if i can really get my head around it? Yes we know peoples opinions about many things on here. You probably know my stance on many subjects, I definitely know yours. Doesn't stop us discussing things though does it? |
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Post by superscfc on Oct 2, 2014 9:25:12 GMT
I'm assuming the defenders in the squad will be:
Johnson, Baines, Cahill, Jagielka, Chambers, Stones??? and possibly Clyne? I'm probably forgetting someone but I think Smalling and Jones are injured so most likely won't be called up. Shawcross is good enough to be amongst any of those defenders and should be.
We all know he's not getting picked, let's move on. We know he's unreal on his day so it's Hodgson's and England's loss
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Post by foster on Oct 2, 2014 9:30:19 GMT
Should he really have been there? He's a wanker but he has a scouting team and a tv (with player Cam) I assume. Of course he should. He's paid £3.5million a year. £60k/week. When England haven't a match pretty much his only job is to watch football matches. If he can't be bothered to come and see the only Premier League match on then WTF is he getting paid for? Really? Just because it's on Sky should have no bearing on the decision anyway. He can watch every game he wants anyway (Sky can surely provide him the full unedited coverage of every Premier League game if he wants). When you're checking out players you need to see them live - watch their positioning, how switched on they are all the time - not just when the camera's on them. Roy could have seen how Ryan and Williamson are doing, but no he couldn't be bothered. Couldn't be bothered to even turn up for work and earn that nearly £10,000 that would have been paid by the FA to him for that day's work. Shocking. He gets enough salary without getting free tickets for matches on top. Hospitality tickets no less!! |
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Post by spongebobflathead on Oct 2, 2014 9:40:43 GMT
Same old discussion same old blinkered stoke , whilst i agree Ryan hasn't been given a fair crack of the whip ,when we talk about consistency he hasn't been his usual self , he's had a few dodgy performances this term ! If Roy had been to all six stoke games to watch Ryan and decided to leave it I wouldn't argue , a run of games more like man city and newcastle and he can feel hard done by ! I'd agree with that but out of those who will get picked ahead of him isn't Cahill the only one who has been consistent this season? This is a fair point that a loosely agree with , where the problem lies is when you've been dismissed and cast out to the verges (unfairly granted) like Ryan has the onus is then on Ryan to force his way in , in a way that can not be ignored , I'm not sure he's done that to be fair ! |
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Post by elsidibe on Oct 2, 2014 9:50:54 GMT
I'd agree with that but out of those who will get picked ahead of him isn't Cahill the only one who has been consistent this season? This is a fair point that a loosely agree with , where the problem lies is when you've been dismissed and cast out to the verges (unfairly granted) like Ryan has the onus is then on Ryan to force his way in , in a way that can not be ignored , I'm not sure he's done that to be fair ! He seems to stake a claim for being Stoke's (if not overall) motm in at least 50% of the games he plays; what more can he do? |
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Post by StokieAsh13 on Oct 2, 2014 10:01:49 GMT
I really dont get it at all. He is a wonderful centre half, theres not many better than him in the league. For me hes in the top 3 of CB's. I would say only Terry/Kompany are infront.
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Post by ukcstokie on Oct 2, 2014 10:08:03 GMT
I really dont get it at all. He is a wonderful centre half, theres not many better than him in the league. For me hes in the top 3 of CB's. I would say only Terry/Kompany are infront. ...and Hodgson moaning his arse off about not having leaders our on the pitch, Ryan's captaincy/leadership skills would be a massive bonus surely? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2014 10:08:31 GMT
He should get a call but he won't because Woy is corrupt and a media whore with no idea as to who he should pick until he reads the papers.
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Post by Clem Fandango on Oct 2, 2014 10:11:13 GMT
I'd agree with that but out of those who will get picked ahead of him isn't Cahill the only one who has been consistent this season? This is a fair point that a loosely agree with , where the problem lies is when you've been dismissed and cast out to the verges (unfairly granted) like Ryan has the onus is then on Ryan to force his way in , in a way that can not be ignored , I'm not sure he's done that to be fair ! I think its a fair point for this season as he's looked shaky on a couple of occasions but last season he did very well and like somebody else has said he's had plenty of games where you could argue he was MOTM so I'm not sure what else he can do. I suppose the 'holding in the penalty area' thing which has been highlighted numerous times could be the thing keeping him out. |
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Post by Clem Fandango on Oct 2, 2014 10:13:00 GMT
I really dont get it at all. He is a wonderful centre half, theres not many better than him in the league. For me hes in the top 3 of CB's. I would say only Terry/Kompany are infront. ...and Hodgson moaning his arse off about not having leaders our on the pitch, Ryan's captaincy/leadership skills would be a massive bonus surely? On the other thread regarding Liverpool I suggested they lack a leader at the back and if I'm honest I think Ryan is exactly the sort of player they need to sort them out. If that happened you could guarantee he'll make the next England squad Woy does love a Liverpool player. |
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Post by FullerMagic on Oct 2, 2014 10:13:13 GMT
Nick Collins on Sky saying there were 7 defenders named last month - and that included Jones, Chambers and Shaw who are unavailable this time.
He then mentioned Shawcross and Caulker as potentials.
I'd be amazed if he got in though
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Post by tazi on Oct 2, 2014 10:13:39 GMT
You just can't go around picking stoke players to play for England because can you imagine how that'd look to the outside world on relation to how far they've really fallen.
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