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Post by slother on Feb 15, 2014 12:13:49 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 15, 2014 12:17:19 GMT
Some geeky looking twat holding a shitty flag kind of encapsulates the wankyness of the modern game imo.
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Post by stokiejoeofalsager on Feb 15, 2014 12:19:54 GMT
Fair play to him. His team has been well and truly done over by what football has become. It takes some guts to take a stand like he has.
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Post by craig67 on Feb 15, 2014 12:41:34 GMT
Some geeky looking twat holding a shitty flag kind of encapsulates the wankyness of the modern game imo. At least he cares. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 15, 2014 12:42:33 GMT
Some geeky looking twat holding a shitty flag kind of encapsulates the wankyness of the modern game imo. At least he cares. He doesn't realise he's part of the problem though, bless him. And I'm specifically on about the bloke in the photo. |
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Feb 15, 2014 12:46:36 GMT
i must admit I feel the same way , Stoke still in my blood but corporate shite and overpaid players really get me down at times
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Post by redwhitesingfight on Feb 15, 2014 12:58:26 GMT
i must admit I feel the same way , Stoke still in my blood but corporate shite and overpaid players really get me down at times Same here. The whole experience is insipid. Even the singing at the Brit now seems like we are going through the motions rather than giving it our all, eyes bulging out of our heads with passion like it was at the Vic. From the membership card system, all seater 'stadiums' to being told what you can and cannot chant. Its time we started fighting back. If anything, judging by attendance figures the process may have started. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2014 13:01:03 GMT
If there were more people prepared to make a stand, like this fellow, perhaps the F.A. and the greedy premier league would take notice. This is what the game needs IMHO. I,ve come very close to saying, sod it, many a time.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 15, 2014 13:03:20 GMT
Maybe so but alls I'd need to see is a drum behind that bloke and then I'd want to kill myself.
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Post by march4 on Feb 15, 2014 13:04:39 GMT
How would folk feel if we were forced to become Stoke Potters and wear Wedgwood blue.
Or even
Stoke Diggers wearing JCB yellow.
It just isn't cricket is it?
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Post by Amo on Feb 15, 2014 13:23:49 GMT
A good article and some home truths in there! We've inherited some "plastic fans" who think Sky and The Premier League invented football. I do long for the past away days when we'd descend on some where have a great Pre match pint etc and then fill the away end. Sadly the whole away day experience is now totally sterile more like a Sunday School Outing " sit down shut up and no talking!".
I've got a friend who gave up on ManU with the Glazier takeover he now goes and watches United of Manchester FC and says he enjoys it alot more.
God forbid we ever have a numpty control freak like the mad owner at Cardiff takeover at Stoke and try to change our heritage as it would defo turn nasty.
The fans own the clubs, someone else may have an handful of share certificates but they are nothing without the real fans.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Feb 15, 2014 13:40:31 GMT
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Post by ma on Feb 15, 2014 15:25:40 GMT
fair play ridiculous how owners can ruin a football club and it's traditions
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Post by dutchpeter72 on Feb 15, 2014 15:38:21 GMT
i must admit I feel the same way , Stoke still in my blood but corporate shite and overpaid players really get me down at times I agree with the above sentiments. My support diminishes a little bit every year. The experience at a match is pretty depressing in identikit stadiums, feels like you're put in straight jacket. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2014 15:48:01 GMT
For me football started going down the pan with the advent of Sky.
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Feb 15, 2014 16:05:16 GMT
For me football started going down the pan with the advent of Sky. A lot of the glitzing up and softening of the game that has come with the dollar, and the kind of 'owners' that can attract, has been bad. But at the same time Sky has made it a lot easier to follow your Club {especially Prem} and the grounds have improved. There should have been a better cascade of the cash. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2014 23:11:14 GMT
Anyone whop has ever gone 20 rows forward in the old Boothen when we scored or even when we hit the side netting sometimes will never be happy sitting on their arse.
It was for me an experience I shared with my late brother and when the whole Boothen became my brothers, a family united in a common cause, now it's like sitting as a beach guard without Pammi Anderson to look at and while some of you might imagine SJW in a mankini I fear things will never be the same or as good.
At least we can remember, Our kids will never have that pleasure.
Soon it will be a Virtual Crowd with people logging on from home texting Delilah to each other when we score.
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Post by marrer on Feb 15, 2014 23:27:43 GMT
Anyone whop has ever gone 20 rows forward in the old Boothen when we scored or even when we hit the side netting sometimes will never be happy sitting on their arse. It was for me an experience I shared with my late brother and when the whole Boothen became my brothers, a family united in a common cause, now it's like sitting as a beach guard without Pammi Anderson to look at and while some of you might imagine SJW in a mankini I fear things will never be the same or as good. At least we can remember, Our kids will never have that pleasure. Soon it will be a Virtual Crowd with people logging on from home texting Delilah to each other when we score. Riv, you are so right. As I looked at the link to the Victoria ground photos recently, there was one outside the ground with people coming arriving at the Vic in the rain. Do you remember those days when it was cold and wet outside but an excitement began to grow as you neared the ground. Noise emanated from the stadium and as you entered the Boothen concourse where the food stands were, the noise came down at you through those stairwells. Then up the stairs to find the place you normally stand and you joined 8000 or whatever brothers. No more cold and wet, voices rising where the 'Right Side' sung and challenged the 'Middle' who sung and challenged the 'Left Side' and then a rsponse from the Paddock. Songs, and there were many of them, almost none-stop from before kick off until the end of the game. Sure there were some 'aggressive' chants against opposite supporters but it created a 'bear pit' atmosphere that was magic and addictive. They talk about 'bear pit' at the Brit but it seems to me to be nothing like a 'bear pit' now. Match days in the past were something you couldn't describe to anyone who hasn't been there. I am shocked by the 'sanitised' atmosphere now. I put a thread up a week or so ago called 'In the Southampton Slums' and was criticised by a few respondents; what I was getting at was the lack of songs these days. I won't go on, but what would you give for a return to those days? |
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Post by PotterLog on Feb 16, 2014 0:03:57 GMT
He doesn't realise he's part of the problem though, bless him. And I'm specifically on about the bloke in the photo. Fuckin hell bayern that is very harsh. How about taking account of what he's saying and doing rather than picking out the way he looks and the fact he's carrying a flag ffs? This guy is as passionate and old-school a fan as you can get and he's taken the pretty big step of turning his back on it, purely on principle - and doing a little bit to stand up for traditions I thought you valued in footy. In what way is he 'part of the problem'? |
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Feb 16, 2014 0:09:26 GMT
The horse has bolted, only a global worldwide implosion of football's financial structure could return the game to something of what it once was. The implosion will happen, it's just a matter of when, the sheer volume of money being pumped into the sport just isn't sustainable.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2014 0:22:02 GMT
He doesn't realise he's part of the problem though, bless him. And I'm specifically on about the bloke in the photo. Fuckin hell bayern that is very harsh. How about taking account of what he's saying and doing rather than picking out the way he looks and the fact he's carrying a flag ffs? This guy is as passionate and old-school a fan as you can get and he's taken the pretty big step of turning his back on it, purely on principle - and doing a little bit to stand up for traditions I thought you valued in footy. In what way is he 'part of the problem'? The bloke in the picture is Mike Slocombe, an old mate of my lad and founder of Urban 75. He is, has they say in modern football, a real football man. He is also a top bloke. It will have been a very difficult and painful decision for him to stop watching the Bluebirds. Good luck to him. I had many heated discussions with him, when for a short time Cardiff were our arch rivals( 2001-2002). |
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Post by dutchpeter72 on Feb 16, 2014 0:24:43 GMT
He doesn't realise he's part of the problem though, bless him. And I'm specifically on about the bloke in the photo. Fuckin hell bayern that is very harsh. How about taking account of what he's saying and doing rather than picking out the way he looks and the fact he's carrying a flag ffs? This guy is as passionate and old-school a fan as you can get and he's taken the pretty big step of turning his back on it, purely on principle - and doing a little bit to stand up for traditions I thought you valued in footy. In what way is he 'part of the problem'? Because he's not got tens of thousands of comments on a forum. Therefore his life experience as a supporter is zilch. Welcome to the social media world. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2014 1:31:11 GMT
This guy is hardly going to turn his back on his childhood team and then start following another, only to say "err...i've made a mistake" is he?
It would take a lot more than the antics of someone like Vincent Tan to stop me supporting Stoke. I'm also sure that many Cardiff fans are very grateful for what Mr. Tan has done and the ambition he is showing for the famous old Welsh club.
I mean "Against Modern Football". Where's the positive message in that? You might as well be against marmalade. If you're serious about going off to support another team, just get on with it. End of.
Quite often these people can be so outspoken that they unwittingly back themselves into a corner, leaving no other option but to actually follow through their petty grumbles in a futile attempt to preserve their dignity...
That symbol is a fucking joke too.
Is the modern game so awful? Or is the modern fan just a spoilt, moaning mardarse?
I think, on the whole, the Premiership is brilliant, but it's far from perfect.
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Post by Olgrligm on Feb 16, 2014 2:13:41 GMT
Is the modern game so awful? I can rhink of several reasons why it is, both on and off the pitch. |
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Post by JoeinOz on Feb 16, 2014 2:20:11 GMT
Like anything in life. Some things are better some things are worse. Like anything in life some people simply resent change.
Strange to think so many people on here pathologically moan about the way football is nowadays yet when a bloke makes a stand about he gets slagged off.
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Post by jukeboxjury on Feb 16, 2014 2:30:23 GMT
Anyone whop has ever gone 20 rows forward in the old Boothen when we scored or even when we hit the side netting sometimes will never be happy sitting on their arse. It was for me an experience I shared with my late brother and when the whole Boothen became my brothers, a family united in a common cause, now it's like sitting as a beach guard without Pammi Anderson to look at and while some of you might imagine SJW in a mankini I fear things will never be the same or as good. At least we can remember, Our kids will never have that pleasure. Soon it will be a Virtual Crowd with people logging on from home texting Delilah to each other when we score. Riv, you are so right. As I looked at the link to the Victoria ground photos recently, there was one outside the ground with people coming arriving at the Vic in the rain. Do you remember those days when it was cold and wet outside but an excitement began to grow as you neared the ground. Noise emanated from the stadium and as you entered the Boothen concourse where the food stands were, the noise came down at you through those stairwells. Then up the stairs to find the place you normally stand and you joined 8000 or whatever brothers. No more cold and wet, voices rising where the 'Right Side' sung and challenged the 'Middle' who sung and challenged the 'Left Side' and then a rsponse from the Paddock. Songs, and there were many of them, almost none-stop from before kick off until the end of the game. Sure there were some 'aggressive' chants against opposite supporters but it created a 'bear pit' atmosphere that was magic and addictive. They talk about 'bear pit' at the Brit but it seems to me to be nothing like a 'bear pit' now. Match days in the past were something you couldn't describe to anyone who hasn't been there. I am shocked by the 'sanitised' atmosphere now. I put a thread up a week or so ago called 'In the Southampton Slums' and was criticised by a few respondents; what I was getting at was the lack of songs these days. I won't go on, but what would you give for a return to those days? |
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Post by JoeinOz on Feb 16, 2014 2:49:48 GMT
People go on about the vic as if it was always full and always a noisy cauldron. It wasn't. History gets re-written and people get carried away with it all. The Vic was like a morgue a lot of the time. In big games when it was full it came to life. Same as the Brit does when there is something to shout about. Ferfuxache, when we beat Chelsea some said it was ace because we got the atmosphere back. It was back because there was something to make an atmosphere about! Ditto when we beat the shit. It was quiet v Swansea because there was nothing to make a noise over. That was all the same at the Vic.
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Post by JoeinOz on Feb 16, 2014 2:51:35 GMT
People go on about the vic as if it was always full and always a noisy cauldron. It wasn't. History gets re-written and people get carried away with it all. The Vic was like a morgue a lot of the time. In big games when it was full it came to life. Same as the Brit does when there is something to shout about. Ferfuxache, when we beat Chelsea some said it was ace because we got the atmosphere back. It was back because there was something to make an atmosphere about! Ditto when we beat the shit. It was quiet v Swansea because there was nothing to make a noise over. That was all the same at the Vic.
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Post by jukeboxjury on Feb 16, 2014 3:13:48 GMT
So true about the atmosphere in the boothen end
Me and my future bro in law would RUN in our greatcoats and bovver boots from clayton up penkhl bank and then down to the ground
We were both 16 and our parents banned us from going into the boothen end and we promised them that we would go into the Stoke end, which we never did
Going past the players entrance we would wait and watch the players going in to huge cheeers.
Entering the turnstiles and the cacophony of sound would reverberate around our ears and the climb up to our usual standing place was great as the sound of Zigger Zaggerr
Was heard and set the heart pumping.
When we scored we werre carried along on a rollercoaster of a ride our feet leaving the ground after the swell began to subside asking the big guys next to us who scored that.
I know there was the negative side such as chasing the away supporters with the intention of ambushing them at the station, but at the time it was brill, wasnt it,
The mardy arsed namby pby politically correct of today would be horrified at what we did, but it was passion and a love of my team that fired tthesoul and my love of every fibre of Stoke FC
The memories come flooding back as I type this of waking up on xmas day and finding santa had again brought me the Charles Buchan football annual and frantically looking for pics of Stoke players.
I apologise for going off the original thread somewhat and for the typo mistakes
Hard when your eyes keep watering
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2014 4:33:30 GMT
People go on about the vic as if it was always full and always a noisy cauldron. It wasn't. History gets re-written and people get carried away with it all. The Vic was like a morgue a lot of the time. In big games when it was full it came to life. Same as the Brit does when there is something to shout about. Ferfuxache, when we beat Chelsea some said it was ace because we got the atmosphere back. It was back because there was something to make an atmosphere about! Ditto when we beat the shit. It was quiet v Swansea because there was nothing to make a noise over. That was all the same at the Vic. You're quite right, Joe. But then you could say the same thing about 99% of other club's grounds (if not the whole lot). No where - no set of fans - is truly ace, all of the time. And a lot of this - and I can guarantee it is for at least one of the posts above - is more about missing the times - and the events - that you can never have back, more than it is about the actual place where those times occurred. A place - even The Place - is just a place, after all. If this forum was not about football, but about public transport, this topic would be about an exhibition of photos of Hanley Bus Station ( taken before they pulled it down) and we would be reminiscing about the pool hall and amusement arcade that was once just across the road; where we'd take our girl friend of the time, having met her off the bus. And OS would be telling us he remembered when the bus conductors all wore top hats and the trams were pulled by horses  So dunner be too harsh, duck; it's just owd age  |
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