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Post by greyman on Apr 25, 2017 12:05:54 GMT
She has never accused him of anything and has had to suffer for this kind of reaction She never accused him of rape? H No, mate. She's never accused him of rape. It was the police and CPS who decided he should face trial for rape.
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Post by greyman on Apr 25, 2017 9:46:56 GMT
The difference between trying to rehabilitate most offenders and Ched Evans is very different Young offenders I've worked with have criminal records at the age of 16 when they leave school (if they've actually been) which makes it almost impossible for them to get a job. No employer will touch them. That almost forces them back into the criminal justice system. Thats why the rate of reoffending in YOIs is about 95% Ched Evans on the other hand has had quite a few job offers. The major difference though is that Ched Evans is, in the eyes of the law, innocent. His time in jail was as a result of a conviction which has since been overturned. If he is "guilty" of anything it is of having sex as part of a threesome - which isn't a crime. Exactly. If footballers couldn't find work because they were scumbags, there'd be a lot more of them on the dole.
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Post by greyman on Apr 25, 2017 6:50:05 GMT
Best of luck to him. He shagged a tart who then set him up and did two and a half years in de slammer. Most expensive shag he's ever had. She has never accused him of anything and has had to suffer for this kind of reaction
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Post by greyman on Apr 24, 2017 10:48:37 GMT
Regardless of the final league position this year, if you had a showreel of the Best Of highlights of Hughes' signings, with the exception of Crouch's wonder goal against Man City, they knock Team Pulis into a cocked hat. It's such a shame that there hasn't been a consistent first XI or system. I'm genuinely saddened that Bojan is on loan, and the Waving Cat too come to that, and that Bony hasn't clicked (or been played) and so on. There in lies the problem, I'm not sure Hughes knows how to get the best out of the squad he has put together. There have been some great times, performance, goals etc during the first 3 seasons - all sadly lacking this one. Maybe it is time for a change - just glad I don't have to make it The issue is that it's hard to understand why he's lost his way so badly. I've yet top hear anybody come up with a proper explanation of why things have gone so wrong with him. He just seems to have no idea at the moment. I can't recall us putting out the same team in the same formation at any point over this past year.
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Post by greyman on Apr 24, 2017 8:45:57 GMT
2 and thats being generous. Never wanted him in charge in the first place TP is a legend And there we have it. Why Hughes or any other manager will never stand a chance with some 'supporters'. The people who think one man is bigger than the club.
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Post by greyman on Apr 21, 2017 5:40:37 GMT
Anybody who watched him take to the pitch that day just before the cup final in 2011 with the clear intent to injure a Stoke player, possibly to break their leg, wouldn't give a shit if this finished his career. That's even before you take account of all the other stuff.
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Post by greyman on Apr 19, 2017 15:26:39 GMT
I don't have any problem with this except for one thing. Give the number 8 shirt to a midfielder for God's sake. In fact, while they're about it, sort them all out. 1 2 5 6 3 7 8 4 11 10 9 The only argument is about 6 and 4, otherwise sort it out. I'm with you Gramps. I'm all for handing out the 1-11 shirts on matchday like they do in rugby union*, with a manly handshake and a "you've earned that son". Keep them honest**. *kick and clap to you **not in the winger sense Tragic really but it really grates with me to see a right back in an 8 shirt. Anything above the number 24 also brings me out in a flush. Must be my age.
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Post by greyman on Apr 19, 2017 14:06:40 GMT
How old are they when they first play on full size pitches these days? Far too young. I remember both of mine making the step up from six aside pitches to full sized pitches with full sized goals. Immediately the way they play changes. It quickly becomes kick and rush so a team with a strong lad at the back and a quick lad at the front can dominate games. Add in the fact that the goals are at least two-times too big for a ten year old, and the problems begin. Often the pitches are crap too and it takes some time until any sort of quality returns to games when they are old enough to play on a full sized pitch. I understand the FA has been trying to change this as well as deal with the old problem of idiot parents, including those who referee their own teams in a particular way, but progress seems slow.
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Post by greyman on Apr 19, 2017 7:53:47 GMT
'We Will See' in the comments section has certainly got it in for Smudge. Every week he has a pop. He is jealous of the vast wealth Smudge has accumulated from fleecing Stoke supporters with the Oatcake
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Post by greyman on Apr 19, 2017 7:51:01 GMT
I don't have any problem with this except for one thing. Give the number 8 shirt to a midfielder for God's sake. In fact, while they're about it, sort them all out.
1 2 5 6 3 7 8 4 11 10 9
The only argument is about 6 and 4, otherwise sort it out.
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Post by greyman on Apr 16, 2017 17:25:42 GMT
Before you start, remind Ange that bellowing 'I don't care' over and over again while somebody else is talking doesn't constitute an argument.
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Post by greyman on Apr 14, 2017 22:31:30 GMT
Yep agreed, but he was right about one thing, Barkley doesn't seem to be the sharpest tool in the box! He's a lot sharper than that dick MacKenzie though. I don't understand why the Sun have published that article, it's like they are saying 'fuck you merseyside'. A real example of the North/South divide. A monumental own goal from the Sun this. Rebecca Brooks has been looking for the way to get rid of him for a while. This is her chance. He's a twat. When you think he's possibly the biggest twat at that firm, it's really saying something.
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Post by greyman on Apr 14, 2017 10:00:22 GMT
Thanks. Now don't let me hold you up from your job of being offended on behalf of other people who aren't offended.
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Post by greyman on Apr 14, 2017 7:24:10 GMT
Especially for adi and others like him. Q. Having watched the clip, using your skill and judgement, do you think the laugh is aimed at: a) The foreigns b) The gays c) Both of the above d) The bigots Thanks for that. I won't waste my time bracketing you. Predictably. You already have but that must be a full time preoccupation for you. You not only know everything, you also know how everybody else should think, behave and speak. And anybody who doesn't do as you say is a bigot, racist, sexist or fascist. No need to argue the point when you can just apply a label. There can be no irony, no self-awareness, no subtlety and no humour. Only name calling. You must protect the women and the BAME and LGBT communities because they are such fragile creatures and can't take a joke or see irony and the use of humour. Even in this case with David Moyes where the woman involved hasn't complained or said anything, you must still step in to defend her, because you know what's best for her, the dear, sweet, fragile little thing. Let's try again. Who is the butt of this joke? And who might still share some of the same attitudes with those men?
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Post by greyman on Apr 13, 2017 10:35:15 GMT
Yeah, because he loves this football club so much. In the grand scheme of things we are one of his previous employers, to us he was our last manager. I'm sure that when he was told thanks but no thanks on his dossier, he would crack a smile at seeing where we are at the moment. The whole none hand shake thing and the berrahino circus and the fact that he came up to stoke with his team on charity work a month or so ago shows that it was personal. We have made a right pigs ear of this season. And so far, only this season. I share everybody's doubts about Hughes but there's no need to rewrite history. As for Pulis's 'dossier'? I think we should take it as seriously as Peter Coates obviously did.
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Post by greyman on Apr 13, 2017 10:05:19 GMT
Especially for adi and others like him.
Q. Having watched the clip, using your skill and judgement, do you think the laugh is aimed at:
a) The foreigns
b) The gays
c) Both of the above
d) The bigots
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Post by greyman on Apr 13, 2017 9:40:33 GMT
I'm prepared to make a prediction. Let's say we get relegated in 2026, but in the intervening years we've been a top half side consistently, won the League Cup once and appeared in an FA Cup Semi Final. The ground is pretty much full every week and the club has continued to attract some relatively major players and has developed a handful of very good youngsters. But in 2026, gravity takes hold and we go down, albeit with a solid enough foundation to expect to come back up within a couple of years. Hughes has gone and we replaced him with another manager or two who have done well, but we've just run out of steam for one reason or another. Here's my prediction. Somebody, probably a few, will come onto the Oatcake and say 'I knew this would happen when we sacked Pulis'. I'm bookmarking this. Just so that when somebody comes on and says 'I told you so', I can say 'No, I told you so' right back at them. I don't doubt for a second as that will indeed happen, but the other side are just as bad. When Pulis came back here it was "He'll never save us from relegation" but he did. Then it was "He'll never progess us" but he did, we just missed out on the play-offs. Then it was "He'll never get us into the play-offs" fair enough they were right about that, we won automatic promotion instead. Then it was "He'll never keep us up" but he did. Then it was "He'll never get us passed 'second season syndrome'" but he did. Then it was back to "He'll never progress us" but he did, we become a well regarded midtable team & reached our first ever FA Cup Final. Then it was "He'll never take us any further than this" and finally they got their wish 'cos after a decade of being wrong they could finally go "See! See! I told you Pulis was shit & would never do anything with us! See! See!". Well, yes, but they're not the ones hoping that the current manager fails, in one way or another. There are a small but vocal number of people attached to the club who would rather be right about something than Stoke do well and they exist on both sides of the fence. I'm glad that momo liked your post. He's still seething that I was always right about Pulis and he was only half right. I don't think he'll ever get over it.
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Post by greyman on Apr 13, 2017 8:03:32 GMT
I'm prepared to make a prediction. Let's say we get relegated in 2026, but in the intervening years we've been a top half side consistently, won the League Cup once and appeared in an FA Cup Semi Final. The ground is pretty much full every week and the club has continued to attract some relatively major players and has developed a handful of very good youngsters. But in 2026, gravity takes hold and we go down, albeit with a solid enough foundation to expect to come back up within a couple of years. Hughes has gone and we replaced him with another manager or two who have done well, but we've just run out of steam for one reason or another. Here's my prediction. Somebody, probably a few, will come onto the Oatcake and say 'I knew this would happen when we sacked Pulis'. I'm bookmarking this. Just so that when somebody comes on and says 'I told you so', I can say 'No, I told you so' right back at them.
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Post by greyman on Apr 13, 2017 3:38:52 GMT
First thing to say is Pulis is sitting pretty. We, Stoke, Hughes aren't so wheres the progress. Football has been poor, no progress there. I want Hughes to succeed but he is a tinker man and has never found a solid side Hughes has outperformed Pulis's Premier League record WITH STOKE in three of his four seasons and we have progressed since Pulis's last couple of seasons. This season has been a huge disappointment set against the standards that Hughes has set. It beats me why you have to bring Pulis into this, it really does. I know why and I bet you do, too.
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Post by greyman on Apr 12, 2017 15:06:25 GMT
Do you really mean that,or are you being ironic? It's so hard to tell. If you're being ironic, I hope you lose your job. And if you mean it, I hope you get a mild cold. Isn't that how it all works? Take your time answering. I know it's a full time job being offended on other people's behalf. "I wish he had died in that crash and that he had been decapitated and that his head had rolled off in front of his wife and that a jagged piece of metal debris from the car had got stuck in his eye and blinded him. And then his head had rolled on a few more yards into a pool of boiling oil and that his head had retained just enough neural capacity for him to be able to think “ooh, this is bit hot” before the whole thing exploded into tiny pieces. It's a JOKE, you know, like they do on Top Gear. When I say I wish Richard Hammond HAD died and I wish he had been decapitated, of course, it’s a joke. But coincidentally it’s also what I believe." When people see me these days, they go, oh, Stewart Lee's let himself go.
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Post by greyman on Apr 12, 2017 15:05:21 GMT
Just because she's a "Woman" doesn't mean she deserves any special treatment. She's treated equally. you really are a neanderthal prick if you think that. The Oatcake is quickly turning into an EDF messageboard. Do you think if he'd threatened in a jokey way to slap a male reporter, who laughed back, that it would be an issue? Moyes seems to be guilty of nothing more than being socially awkward and making a crap joke.
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Post by greyman on Apr 12, 2017 10:49:21 GMT
Do you really mean that,or are you being ironic? It's so hard to tell.
If you're being ironic, I hope you lose your job. And if you mean it, I hope you get a mild cold.
Isn't that how it all works?
Take your time answering. I know it's a full time job being offended on other people's behalf.
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Post by greyman on Apr 12, 2017 8:01:17 GMT
Yeah, it's like when a parent says about their child 'I could kill him'. Clearly attempted murder and so a life sentence. It's important that we take every word that comes out of people's mouths literally. Of course the prison population would be in the tens of millions and everybody else would be sacked, but that's the price of tolerance. Each to their own I guess. I know which side of the fence I sit, joke or no joke... I'll have to agree to disagree So you think we should take what people say entirely at face value? How's that working out?
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Post by greyman on Apr 10, 2017 16:58:59 GMT
Just because she's a "Woman" doesn't mean she deserves any special treatment. She's treated equally. I suppose kids are the same too? I believe in equal rights but a bloke versus a woman is unacceptable. Yeah, it's like when a parent says about their child 'I could kill him'. Clearly attempted murder and so a life sentence. It's important that we take every word that comes out of people's mouths literally. Of course the prison population would be in the tens of millions and everybody else would be sacked, but that's the price of tolerance.
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Post by greyman on Apr 10, 2017 8:37:20 GMT
I can only take so much of this. Ange doesn't know the difference between a discussion and seeing who can batter the other person into silence first. Most people give up on shouting I DON'T CARE over and over again when somebody points something out to them at the age of 8. I've heard it's the same at the supporters council meetings.... I hope not. She's obviously a bag of energy and willing to give up her time to do an often thankless task, so we owe her some thanks. But I'd hate to think she just talks all over anybody who has a different viewpoint until they just give up, like she does on this show.
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Post by greyman on Apr 10, 2017 5:19:29 GMT
Apart from that, he didn't actually threaten her. I only feel sorry for her because of the number of people being offended on her behalf, when she clearly wasn't. The worst you could say about what Moyes did was that he made a gauche joke. If that's now enough to hang somebody, we may as well all give up now.
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Post by greyman on Apr 9, 2017 18:51:16 GMT
I can only take so much of this. Ange doesn't know the difference between a discussion and seeing who can batter the other person into silence first. By the age of 8, most people have given up on shouting I DON'T CARE over and over again when somebody points something out to them.
Russell Dutton has the patience of a saint. Most other people would turn up after the first week with a gag.
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Post by greyman on Apr 9, 2017 15:23:07 GMT
That's a hell of a cross
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Post by greyman on Apr 7, 2017 10:17:50 GMT
Oi Greyers and Sofa Man, you pair of sarcy buggers! Leave Smudge alone! I been lookin' at his FB page. He spends most of his time out drowning his sorrows with Mrs Smudge these days. Okay, so he was in his Bugatti and was in Monaco, so I'll give you that. Oi Daftbugger, since when have you become a memeber of the Grammer Police? Plympton Potter finally got you to join, has he? You two-faced twat! OS. I believe it was fornside's wife Monica Hartland that did the trick.
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Post by greyman on Apr 6, 2017 17:17:21 GMT
Smudge has made so much money from the Oatcake, he's got no time for letter writing these days. Too busy tending his Tuscan vineyard and curating his collection of vintage Bugattis.
The only thing I know he gets really worked up about these days is Duck Magazine. He has vowed to crush Anthony Bunn like a bug.
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