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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Jul 11, 2023 9:49:53 GMT
Watching the little clips of our training camp in Spain, I’ve never recognised less of our players before in my life. I’d even take back Clucas and Fox for a bit of familiarity. And Powell. But I’d take him back anyway  I really hope this is tongue in cheek and trying to get a reaction. |
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Jul 10, 2023 15:03:20 GMT
Conversations will still be happening though, they won't be sitting around doing nothing. They'll be in contact with those targets and laying the groundwork. We don't know what the budget is or if we're in a position to pay over the odds - plus doing that got us into this mess in the first place. The problem is though that laying the groundwork seems to take an indeterminate amount of time at Stoke, whereas clubs such as Brighton have rigorous succession plans, often years in the making, streamlined decision making processes and top class player research allied with a stable model and approach. I accept that the position we are in is that we neither have the absolute clout, allure or recent success to make this crucial transfer window easy (all of our own making over the last 5/6 years though that's another story) but we have a history of not moving on and waiting rather than forcing the issue. As for paying over the odds, I think it's a bit simplistic to say that's what got us into this mess in the first place, I would say it was paying over the odds without doing proper research and due diligence that caused it. If we had payed over the odds, and let's face it we could afford to, to some extent, and we had done our player research on anything else than a back of a fag packet and the manager's whim, those players could have been a success and we still would have been still up there with the elite. Frankly I don't have a f..ing clue of how things are going and how they will pan out but our recent history doesn't give me a warm feeling. My thoughts on your 1st paragraph.. Hopefully the appointment of jared dublin and his data analysis will now start to build up a portfolio of potential future targets. Which will bring in some ability to have forward planning in place. |
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Jul 8, 2023 13:29:34 GMT
It's all gone quiet here!!
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Jul 8, 2023 12:32:00 GMT
Pearson signed
At least the bed wetters can sleep easier tonight.
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Jul 8, 2023 9:50:14 GMT
I miss the "plastic fans"
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Jul 7, 2023 17:59:10 GMT
The planning and implementation of this summers staff and player rebuild is going very well
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Jul 7, 2023 12:18:55 GMT
I can’t remember seeing a club let senior players leave without a plan to replace them. It seems strange to me. Hopefully Neal is a meticulous coach and has a clear vision and doesn’t lose the first few games of the season or he will be gone and we will be in the mire. Surely we can’t be trying to progress by using the loan system again? It could plug a few gaps but we have a lot of gaps right now. We need two center halves, two midfielders, a right back, at least one winger / attacking midfielder and a number 9. And let’s be honest we need a quality keeper as well. A lot of work to do…. Let’s hope they pull it off! I'm intrigued to see what is happening at Man City. They have just won three major trophies with a tremendous and much admired team, yet they are now reported as being ready to sell up to 6 important players-- Kyle Walker, Ilkay Gundogan, Bernardo Silva, Joao Cancelo, Riyad Mahrez, and Aymeric Laporte. Who do you get in to replace such illustrious key players! Pep has even lost his 1st team coach to Leicester and still hasn't replaced him.. club must be in total meltdown up there. Can add Liverpool to that list. Robbie firmino leaves end of last season. Everyone knew about it weeks before season end. Yet still Liverpool haven't signed a new striker to replace him..absolute disgrace. Pep out Klopp out Neil out.. Totally clueless the lot of em. |
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Jul 7, 2023 8:22:13 GMT
Yes. It's weird that it doesn't really get mentioned until the very end of the article. He was a big success under Boskamp but had a less happy return under Pulis. Liked him as a player. I don’t like the lazy, nepotistic idea of just employing someone who has the same ideas as you. Just because they have the same ideas doesn't necessarily mean he's a yes man.. let's give it a go |
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Jul 6, 2023 18:09:23 GMT
I agree we should of signed 10 players before the end of June.. stuff the fact players were on holiday or under contract, or even have the option to speak to any number of clubs before deciding g where they choose to go.. I even think we should of paid over the odds for these players in the last few weeks of their contracts instead of waiting till there out of contract. Absolutely no point waiting for better players go become available.. just sign any old carthouse on long contracts quickly like Nathan Jones did...cause that worked out so well I get all of what you are saying but..... Clearly the plan since AN joined was to have a huge clearout out both prior to and during the summer break. That has happened. Coaches, players, scouts, recruitments heads etc. have all gone. Remember this is on the back of our worst league finish since relegation. If that is the plan and has always been the plan then surely you are prepared in advance about who you want to get to replace the leavers. Coaching/scouts etc should have walked into the building as the others walked out. Not this shit show we are currently seeing. Players should have walked in as others walked out. Not this shit show we are currently seeing. I get that is not always straight forward but at the moment we have signed a 33 year old left back. It's a total shit show. A very very worrying shit show. A relegation written all over it shit show. In summary, it's a shit show however you try and dress it up. Maybe the plan was to get Gallagher as our coach. Maybe Preston were looking after there own interests and holding out for compo. Maybe stoke had to negotiate to bring the compo figure down, Maybe Gallagher couldn't join until the compo was sorted. When it was sorted he joined ASAP. Just because stoke want players doesn't mean players are going to rush making their decision whether to join or not. Maybe clubs don't want to let them go.. If you wake up one morning and decide you want to move house you can't just go to another house and move straight in. You have to agree a price with current owners, find a buyer for your house, await land searches and solicitor legalities.. Sometimes in life things take time to get done. It is what it is. |
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Jul 6, 2023 17:36:39 GMT
Steve Cotterill is a thoroughly decent fella
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Jul 6, 2023 17:24:49 GMT
the lack of signings is evidence that we weren’t I agree we should of signed 10 players before the end of June.. stuff the fact players were on holiday or under contract, or even have the option to speak to any number of clubs before deciding g where they choose to go.. I even think we should of paid over the odds for these players in the last few weeks of their contracts instead of waiting till there out of contract. Absolutely no point waiting for better players go become available.. just sign any old carthouse on long contracts quickly like Nathan Jones did...cause that worked out so well |
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Jul 5, 2023 21:37:32 GMT
That photo is not a good advert for Blackburns barbers.
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New kits
Jul 1, 2023 8:49:08 GMT
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Jul 1, 2023 8:49:08 GMT
Home kit - fine.
Away kit - nah.
Prefer the training top to be honest.
..hopefully a cracking 3rd shirt to come like last seasons.
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Jun 27, 2023 17:01:52 GMT
Exactly what is his track record since taking over, I’ll start massive decline and no forward planning whatsoever I would of thought this summers complete overhaul had some planning to it.. Why fo people want is to sign players and coaches in early June....so we can pay them a month's money to go on holiday before they start? |
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Jun 27, 2023 16:59:49 GMT
In all fairness contracts of players dont end till end of June, players take their holidays in June.. things start happening from July onwards.. I can't remember any stoke manager doing their transfer business early into the summer - even Pulis used to talk about waiting for the apples to drop. In fact the only time we did a fair bit of summer deals early was under Nathon Jones, and look at the state that got us into. This is a summer of clear outs and rebuild, sometimes you have to clear the decks and start again this includes the head of recruitment...maybe he was under contract. Maybe he was on a family holiday, maybe it took a while to agree with him to move his family again and start another job miles away from where he is based.. For all the stick jc gets...and yes the last 5 seasons have Been dire. But they've had the clear out the majority of fans were calling for - including encouraging Scholes and many more to leave without being sued for unfair dismissal.. I would say this is the summer of a new era, new blocks are being put in place..it just takes time.. As a wise old man once said- patience is a virtue, possess it if you can, seldom found in women but always in a man.. seldom found in women, never in a man is the correct iteration of that phrase Doesn't have the same effect though when winding the good lady up...so I'll stick to my version handed down through generation's of wise divorced men |
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Jun 27, 2023 15:24:46 GMT
In all fairness contracts of players dont end till end of June, players take their holidays in June.. things start happening from July onwards..
I can't remember any stoke manager doing their transfer business early into the summer - even Pulis used to talk about waiting for the apples to drop. In fact the only time we did a fair bit of summer deals early was under Nathon Jones, and look at the state that got us into.
This is a summer of clear outs and rebuild, sometimes you have to clear the decks and start again this includes the head of recruitment...maybe he was under contract. Maybe he was on a family holiday, maybe it took a while to agree with him to move his family again and start another job miles away from where he is based..
For all the stick jc gets...and yes the last 5 seasons have Been dire. But they've had the clear out the majority of fans were calling for - including encouraging Scholes and many more to leave without being sued for unfair dismissal.. I would say this is the summer of a new era, new blocks are being put in place..it just takes time..
As a wise old man once said- patience is a virtue, possess it if you can, seldom found in women but always in a man..
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Jun 25, 2023 16:50:49 GMT
Yeah I saw that, but they don’t have a manager at the moment do they? Can’t imagine there’s anything in that link, and they already have two very decent keepers at Leeds. The Leeds no1 has already said via his agent he wants to stay in the Premier... so quite likely Leeds are looking for a replacement |
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Jun 25, 2023 10:34:27 GMT
I meant 'one we could sign' - your words- Not an unattainable keeper who will not be signing for a Championship club Butland..joined championship equivalent rangers. |
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Shawcross
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Jun 23, 2023 13:39:46 GMT
He was coaching at Inter Miami. He was coaching at a PL academy last season. Delap was coaching at Derby and very highly respected as their u21 manager. Ok, so Delep was ready for the job (and ‘loves the club’ LOL) and was still fairly meh. My point is that stoke fans think past legends somehow should be installed as coaches, but it’s almost never the answer. Dalglish maybe? I can’t think of any better examples of when a club legend has gone on to be a successful coach or manager? There’s no automatic right for them to get the job over anyone else based on their suitability. Good on Ryan for bring prepared to start his coaching career at this age level and position, and good on the club for not just installing him in the first team set up.. If he's good enough he'll make it. Cream always rises to the top. |
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Jun 22, 2023 17:13:31 GMT
Well, given that our opening day fixture form is fucking abysmal, (we surely have the worst record of ANY club in the world, calling all statto's)... I was hoping for one of the fancied teams away for a free hit. Losing at home to one of the relegation favourites does not bode well for a good start the season. That's the spirit.. positive from the start...ffs |
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Jun 21, 2023 19:49:16 GMT
Mark Chamberlain - my first Stoke City hero.
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Jun 21, 2023 19:47:23 GMT
It's a possibility, I suppose, but then I wonder if Gayle, himself, would agree to such a move or whether he'd see it as a drop too far, given his track record. At the end of the day I think we can both see that offloading him won't be a piece of cake but if we can, under almost any circumstances, then it'll be a bonus. Wrexham writen all over him (relatively high profile at one point). Just hope Powell puts a good word in. Only sticking point with that is...both Mullin and Palmer are better goal scorers for wrexham than Gayle is now. |
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Jun 19, 2023 9:00:46 GMT
If Jacob Brown is a regular in the starting 11 then we are going to be nowhere near the play offs. Same apples to Thompson,we need much better. Brown would do realy well in Div 1,but for a team hoping to make the Play offs in the Championship, I don't think he realy is good enough, too often his skill factor let's him down. Attitude is a massive bonus with brown though. Campbell who admittedly has more skill has less desire and goals..yet the same people who think brown can't be part of a promotion winning team/squad think Campbell is the all scoring winger we need...well we haven't seen much of this consistently in last 2 years |
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Jun 17, 2023 19:43:43 GMT
Wonder if it's got a panel on the back 😂 Ouch I’d never thought of that. I bet it hasn’t 😉 A panel would look class on that |
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Jun 13, 2023 9:09:26 GMT
They look like all being free transfers by Friday In which case I'd definitely take Lang as a development project all day long. Development project......he's 24. |
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Jun 12, 2023 16:59:58 GMT
Was his recruitment with Sheff Utd that shit hot ?. Not if brewster and mcburnie were his men... a fortune wasted and Premier relegation followed. |
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New kits
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Jun 8, 2023 15:33:13 GMT
Totally agree, there a very comfortable and smart shirt to wear for any occasion. Even when they've seen better days they still offer style fit for any occasion. You sound very proud boys Worn with pride.. Ooh suits you sir |
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Jun 8, 2023 15:28:39 GMT
Don’t like black or pink kits tbh, but that one is corking I currently wear two* Fred Perry shirts. One black with pink trim, and one pink with black and red trim. They're like my going out smart home and away shirts.  *the pale grey and black ones have seen better days so I can just them for knocking about in, popping to the shops, etc. Totally agree, there a very comfortable and smart shirt to wear for any occasion. Even when they've seen better days they still offer style fit for any occasion. |
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Jun 6, 2023 11:56:32 GMT
It's also this attitude which has stunk our own club out the last 6 years greedy mercenaries happy to take the money while putting zero effort in and not giving a toss. Good on butland hope he does well. Fielding is doing the job he is employed to. He’s an old goalkeeper who is paid limited wages. His job isn’t to compete with the first team, it’s to take over in practice so that the first team goalkeeper isn’t diving all the time. Fielding’s job is primarily to provide training support in the hopes of reducing injuries for the first and second choice goalkeeper. It’s a recognized role in teams everywhere. Think this has been misread. I was replying to the original comment of bayern who said he would take 25k and sit on his Premier arse... Hence my comment this is the attitude which has stunk our club out.. I have no disrespect for fielding or his role. Sorry for the misunderstsnding |
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Jun 6, 2023 9:47:26 GMT
Or people just value different things and such is life. I’d want to earn 25k a week doing sod all at Man Yoo over playing at Inverness on a bit less but each to their own. And it's this attitude that has seen you continually overlooked for the Stoke managers job! 😂😂😂 I wonder how much Fielding is paid for carrying balls and how shit must he be to not get a sniff of a game!? Do we really need him and Gould? It's also this attitude which has stunk our own club out the last 6 years greedy mercenaries happy to take the money while putting zero effort in and not giving a toss. Good on butland hope he does well. |
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