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Post by kidcrewbob on May 16, 2022 12:42:36 GMT
Well according to a huge hoarding next to the A500 at Shelton Stoke City & it's supporters are "family" - unfortunately this is not the case as healthy functioning families talk to each other, are respectful of each others needs and opinions and would do anything to help one another come what may. Whilst most supporters are fulfilling their side of the bargain the Club owners and management are mainly dismissive, disrespectful and disingenuous.
We have heard nothing substantive as to the plan, strategy, hopes, ambitions and aspirations of the club or indeed offered any sort of insight as to how we intend to proceed nor any comments re the managerial position - either supportive, firm endorsement of MoN or even a lukewarm "confidence" statement - nothing, bugger all, nowt......and they MUST be aware of the unrest in a significant proportion of the support base - or should I call them "key stakeholders" - the club has regressed massively in last 5 years and now seems to have reverted to type ie a 70s 80s beer & sandwiches in a smoke filled room approach and we are at serious risk of stagnating further where the annual excitement may ammount to avoiding relegation.
They need to get a decent CEO in ASAP (and a manager in my view) and try and drag us into the 21st century proper.......indeed, "they" are family and not "we" at the moment......
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Post by kidcrewbob on May 13, 2022 19:24:25 GMT
That was a nailed on pen - ref bottled it. Cmon you hatters .....
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Post by kidcrewbob on May 13, 2022 13:38:01 GMT
You're a fantasist and your "mummy knows best" views reflective what's wrong with the club - it's not the fucking 70s anymore I have nothing further to say. Well you keep saying that ......!!
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Post by kidcrewbob on May 13, 2022 7:14:25 GMT
You have a very naive viewpoint - the only fact is that MoN hasn't been sacked yet - thats all we know for sure and *every* manager has a contract - means nothing other than being a mechanism that would dictate any termination settlement - given the somewhat toxic situation - borne out by these 200+ pages and 300k views since Jan 22 - the board *DO* need and indeed *SHOULD* make a statement in my view as supporters want to hear what the plans are for next season. They should at least back him if indeed that is what they intend to do - I think their silence so far is interesting and at best less than supportive. Again, we shall see....... There is no "toxic" situation at boardroom level. They are blissfully unaware of kidcrewbob's unhappy state. The plans for next season are very clear: business as usual. You "hear" silence, but in fact the board and the manager meet every week for lunch and always discuss the state of the art. If they wanted to express dissatisfaction they would do it there, equally if they want to express support it is there. They don't want to make public statements, because based on the last few statements that they made, they know that every single word will be turned and twisted unendingly and ridiculed by people in this very forum and others like it. You're a fantasist and your "mummy knows best" views reflective what's wrong with the club - it's not the fucking 70s anymore
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Post by kidcrewbob on May 13, 2022 6:24:58 GMT
You know fuck all then - you are just speculating on / hoping for an outcome that suits your view - same as the rest of us.......... Conversely I think it odd that there has been no club statement re what the plans are for next season now this dreadful season is behind us........ We shall see To comment on yours, I don't need to create hopes or speculate. I'm just looking at the facts: Michael O'Neill has a contract, which runs another year. The board don't nned to make a statement on what is bleedingly obvious! You have a very naive viewpoint - the only fact is that MoN hasn't been sacked yet - thats all we know for sure and *every* manager has a contract - means nothing other than being a mechanism that would dictate any termination settlement - given the somewhat toxic situation - borne out by these 200+ pages and 300k views since Jan 22 - the board *DO* need and indeed *SHOULD* make a statement in my view as supporters want to hear what the plans are for next season. They should at least back him if indeed that is what they intend to do - I think their silence so far is interesting and at best less than supportive. Again, we shall see.......
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Post by kidcrewbob on May 12, 2022 21:34:18 GMT
Has there been a "we back the manager for another season" statement from the club then ???? It's not necessary. You know fuck all then - you are just speculating on / hoping for an outcome that suits your view - same as the rest of us.......... Conversely I think it odd that there has been no club statement re what the plans are for next season now this dreadful season is behind us........ We shall see
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Post by kidcrewbob on May 12, 2022 10:54:25 GMT
I sadly have no doubt that we're stuck with him for next season, but it's difficult to back the manager based on the evidence of the past two seasons. You obviously seem quite happy to accept "inconsistent results and lacklustre, dour, boring football" as well as his baffling team selections and "tactics", and his plethora of excuses. The club isn't making progress, it's just treading water. He couldn't integrate 6 new signings in January into a better, more successful team, so I'm not holding my breath to see how he copes with the wholesale changes this summer. On what grounds do you reach your stupid judgment? I'm no more happy with what we're seeing than you are. But the simple fact, which you and a bunch of others seem incapable of understanding, is that there are only three people who make decisions about the manager, and they've decided to back him. No amount of repetitive messages in this thread by your lot is going to change that. So move on! Has there been a "we back the manager for another season" statement from the club then ????
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Post by kidcrewbob on May 12, 2022 7:19:07 GMT
D- must do better.......... preferably with another club
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Post by kidcrewbob on May 9, 2022 20:50:47 GMT
We really didn't want Sunderland next season, with their resources they are capable of going straight through the Championship. Don’t worry - they’ll bottle it at Wembley ........
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Post by kidcrewbob on May 9, 2022 20:13:26 GMT
Typical playoff semi - full-on shithousery and pretty turgid stuff ......and that looked like an intentional nutting to me......
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Post by kidcrewbob on May 8, 2022 20:33:30 GMT
he will get the start of next I should imagine, the fans will turn pretty quickly if we start losing Like many did this season when he delivered a diabolical run of results that would have seen him sacked at any other club..........
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Post by kidcrewbob on May 8, 2022 11:17:23 GMT
Come July the self flagellation will have stopped and hope will spring eternal. We need better luck with injuries to key players, to stop wasting the loan signings and some tactical adjustments I don't pretend to understand . Do that and we'll be in the mix. He’s not capable of the adjustments or the coaching needed to do it. The build up play is slow and ponderous, our football is played almost entirely in front of defences, our set pieces are woeful, the throw ins go to the opposition 80% of the time and we almost inevitably defend like the keystone cops. Every team has injuries. There were many on here last season complaining that clucas being injured had been a major reason for our downfall. Let that sink in a while. Clucas….. There is absolutely no reason to believe he will do anything different next season. The football he produces is slow, boring and entirely predictable. Even when we win it’s unconvincing at best bar the odd performance. Time is up. spot on - he hasn't got the persona either - the modern game needs someone aticulate who can inspire and excite players and fans alike.....
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Post by kidcrewbob on May 7, 2022 21:35:01 GMT
So basically after years of us paying him ridiculous money by Championship standards, when he reaches the point where a pay cut is inevitable he heads elsewhere rather than take lower terms here. Or am I being too harsh? It’s harsh if you think he’s doing something wrong or immoral........
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Post by kidcrewbob on May 7, 2022 21:16:03 GMT
No - just no.......we need a continental / continentally-minded coach who understands the modern game - no more shit domestic managers or dinasours
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Post by kidcrewbob on May 7, 2022 21:10:15 GMT
That O’Neill wasn’t sacked when we still had enough games left to be in with some sort of shout of the playoffs......
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Post by kidcrewbob on May 7, 2022 21:00:21 GMT
As a club, we are stuck in the dark ages still targeting domestic dinasours and inexperienced young managers who do not thrive under this beer & sandwiches 70s style board - we had a glimpse of what it could be like for 3 seasons under Hughes who at least had European / big-club experience but then reverted to type - I want to see some excitement back and to do that they need to take some risks, being overly cautious is getting us knowhere and MoN ain't got the CV nor the personality to instill any degree of consistency, confidence and tactical nous into games. He's had his chance and now it's time to go...... Yes, I think we should gamble the future of the club as Derby did. After all you can't beat a bit of excitement. I'm sure the Derby fans are thrilled with all their excitement.We have only narrowly avoided a points deduction for infringing FFP in case you didn't notice. How is getting rid of MoN gambling anything .....?
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Post by kidcrewbob on May 7, 2022 16:58:31 GMT
A clusterfuck of a season to add to the previous 4 and still the board wonder what the fuss is all about - pay-up O'Neills contract and get looking if you've not alrady done so - DO FUCKING SOMETHING
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Post by kidcrewbob on May 7, 2022 16:50:14 GMT
Radio Stoke is a patronising anachronism and frankly embarrassing.........any station where you can guarantee hearing "Band of Gold" within 10 minutes of tuning in has to be closed down
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Post by kidcrewbob on May 7, 2022 16:47:38 GMT
As a club, we are stuck in the dark ages still targeting domestic dinasours and inexperienced young managers who do not thrive under this beer & sandwiches 70s style board - we had a glimpse of what it could be like for 3 seasons under Hughes who at least had European / big-club experience but then reverted to type - I want to see some excitement back and to do that they need to take some risks, being overly cautious is getting us knowhere and MoN ain't got the CV nor the personality to instill any degree of consistency, confidence and tactical nous into games. He's had his chance and now it's time to go......
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Post by kidcrewbob on May 7, 2022 16:38:46 GMT
Has he gone yet?
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Post by kidcrewbob on May 6, 2022 20:23:33 GMT
Fradley Homes sponsored shirts - truly ghastly
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Post by kidcrewbob on May 2, 2022 18:32:07 GMT
Those two lists are very slim pickings aren't they? We really need to stick with MON don't we? Nah
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Post by kidcrewbob on May 2, 2022 18:28:20 GMT
43 goals for Mitrovic. Wtf even is that. It’s called £100k per week and playing for a team in london It's also called a decent manager getting the very best from an engaged and responsive squad of players......
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Post by kidcrewbob on May 2, 2022 18:24:17 GMT
I was gutted when John Coates fucked up the QSF deal - we would still be in the Prem ........... You sure that was JC Him and Scholes - I understand that the deal was done until they tried to impose some wholly unacceptable "but if we don't stay up" clause that would slash his wages - and it all went up in smoke - a false economy given how much we must have paid out to Lambert, Rowett, Jones and now this clown.........
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Post by kidcrewbob on May 2, 2022 16:59:31 GMT
How is it a lie??? - after a decent start and getting into the playoff positions before Christmas I think most were reasonably expecting to be there or thereabouts come May - so it’s not a fucking lie.......and of course abysmal run following that had many fearing a drop right through the trapdoor with good reason.......an appalling season where O’Neill must shoulder most of the blame....... I posted months ago Quoting exactly what all the main posters on this site predicted preseason for this season. Even bayern didn't predict that we would be contesting the play offs. So it is a lie and that is a fact. Of course everyone's expectations changed when we started the season well. Only in your apologist mind........
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Post by kidcrewbob on May 2, 2022 16:36:57 GMT
Cliff Lazarenko and Phil Taylor.....
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Post by kidcrewbob on May 2, 2022 16:30:39 GMT
So you’ve been happy with the football he’s turned out then , I think ppl are happily crunching numbers and getting a boner , instead of realising it’s a results business which he has failed big time in the last two seasons No I'm not happy with a lot of the football he has turned out and I doubt that he is. But it's a lie to say that most people expected us to be challenging for the play offs this year. Most people were hoping that we could avoid a points deduction and survive until June and hopefully have a few bob to spend. I think we need a few better players if we want to play better football, no matter who the manager is. I honestly think that he makes our players look better than they are. How is it a lie??? - after a decent start and getting into the playoff positions before Christmas I think most were reasonably expecting to be there or thereabouts come May - so it’s not a fucking lie.......and of course abysmal run following that had many fearing a drop right through the trapdoor with good reason.......an appalling season where O’Neill must shoulder most of the blame.......
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Post by kidcrewbob on May 2, 2022 16:20:51 GMT
Fulham need two points to win the league, Luton need two points to go into the playoffs. I can't help feeling very bitter watching this. How are Fulham so good after relegation when we were so bad? Then you've got the way in which we conspired to make the best manager in the league one of the worst in our history. A Luton win would be nice. Spot on, it fucks me off in spades too - a Luton win would be preferable but unlikely......
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Post by kidcrewbob on May 2, 2022 16:12:02 GMT
No gauntlet - just the thoroughly depressing prospect of - as you put it - "on he goes". The club is FUBAR as far as I am concerned and after 30 years or so of having a ST, there's absolutely zero chance of me buying another until there's something to believe in - will still pick & choose matches of course but I can see nothing but mediocrity under this characterless, boring, baffling chancer. Great article in the mail today re a bunch of exciting new managers in europe - why can't we just give a continental coach a chance for once after all these domestic failures since Hughes......oh I remember, the xenephobic fringe in the boardroom..... I'm "continental" and while I've always kind of looked down upon primitive English managers, there's only so many exceptional continental coaches. I'm not sure it would be a good idea to bring one to Stoke now. He - whoever he is - may not go Rowetting upon arrival, but he would probably want to bring in continental players nonstop. It can't be done overnight. I suppose Hughes was best at bringing quality from overseas into an already good team, but even he did it bit by bit. So what I am saying is bringing in someone of that ilk could very well mean it would take that coach a couple of years to get rid of all MO'N's signings and a couple more to bring in enough players for him to "have his own team." That would make the play off target zoom off into 2026-2027 season, by which time many will have lost faith in him - and then it would start all over again. It's a shame it didn't work out with QSF. While not everything he's done since turning us down has been good, his name does occasionally flash in the news section. If he'd taken over directly after Hughes, there would have been a more natural transition with a manager who'd already tasted the English League. Now I would think we are unattractive to continental coaches. I was gutted when John Coates fucked up the QSF deal - we would still be in the Prem ...........
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Post by kidcrewbob on May 2, 2022 16:08:05 GMT
Biggest bottle job since Molotov had a cunning plan - completely shat the bed ......
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