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Post by bunnyscfc on Oct 22, 2024 20:59:17 GMT
First name on the teamsheet in centre mid should be Sol. The only one with the athleticism to get around the pitch along with Moran.
Burger has been shit all season and Thompson was poor tonight. Neither will get us top half. Play Sol while we still have him and develop him. We won't go down and definitely won't be near the top 7.
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Post by stokecitydom on Oct 22, 2024 21:02:37 GMT
It’s short sighted to blame Thompson for that performance, he was being totally overrun and that’s on the tactics. I don’t think he’s very good but it would have been the same with Burger. We’re not good enough to play with two midfielders, one of which is a playmaker and two wide players that can’t work back. I agree that we were over run & desperately should’ve made a change and out another central midfielder on, but it still doesn’t justify how poor Thompson is a defensive midfielder. According to the stats he won one tackle and one ground duel, which was considerably less than Moran who’s not suited to playing in a midfield 2 either.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Oct 22, 2024 21:02:41 GMT
Makelele would have struggled tonight He is 50. I was waiting for that one
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Post by delilahwhy on Oct 22, 2024 21:04:15 GMT
Thompson is fine.
Hes a bang average 6 most games.
And thays better than Burger right now, so he's no issue.
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Post by roylandstoke on Oct 22, 2024 21:06:54 GMT
Thompson is fine. Hes a bang average 6 most games. And thays better than Burger right now, so he's no issue. Thompson was poor. He was totally out played by his opponent, as were the rest of the outfield players.
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Oct 22, 2024 21:08:42 GMT
Thompson is fine. Hes a bang average 6 most games. And thays better than Burger right now, so he's no issue. Thompson was poor. He was totally out played by his opponent, as were the rest of the outfield players. Don't think I heard his name for the first 70 odd minutes.
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Post by roylandstoke on Oct 22, 2024 21:08:49 GMT
I was waiting for that one Turns out he’s 51. I still think there’s a strong chance he would improve our midfield.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Oct 22, 2024 21:12:35 GMT
Thompson was poor. He was totally out played by his opponent, as were the rest of the outfield players. Don't think I heard his name for the first 70 odd minutes. Pundits always say that’s a good sign for a defensive midfielder, goes about his business undetected etc. Tongue in cheek it may be but I do feel he is being singled out here as a bit of an easy target for a poor performance. Manhoef, Junho, Bocat far more culpable for me
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Post by stantheman on Oct 22, 2024 21:14:33 GMT
I think there was worse on the pitch tonight. What in the name of fook has happened to our South Korean marvel? He's living off a dozen good games 6 months ago. Thompson wasnt the cause of their goals, shite defending was
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Post by stokesaint1 on Oct 22, 2024 21:15:22 GMT
Don't need to worry about Thompson for Saturday, I believe that's his fifth booking, so he's banned. Sidibe in for me.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Oct 22, 2024 21:20:32 GMT
Can we please put this one to bed now? Thompson isn’t good enough to play ahead of anyone let alone burger. He’s absolutely fucking useless I can't believe it's needed almost 150 games for us to come to this conclusion. For a DM, his positional sense is poor, he tackles like Paul Scholes, his range of passing is average-to-poor at best... I honestly don't know what he offers. It took me about 20 minutes
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Post by chayseeoatcake on Oct 22, 2024 21:38:04 GMT
Case closed. End the thread. There is no point in Thompson.
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Post by jordan2009 on Oct 22, 2024 21:47:11 GMT
I don't think the two in the middle of the park were particularly bad tonight. They scrapped and in Morans case were decent on the ball. The issue was and has been since NP came in, is that we get over run in midfield. At no point were we in control of that game tonight. A two man midfield doesn't work. You only get control 9f the game by winning that midfield battle. At half time, junho should of been off and Sol should of been on
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Post by matelot1996 on Oct 22, 2024 21:49:25 GMT
People overthink The Thompson situation. He is not a Championship Footballer. Certainly not a good Footballer. It’s a crime he still plays regularly for us.
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Post by fca47 on Oct 22, 2024 21:52:52 GMT
Very poor tonight as were most of the outfield players. What has happened to Junho and Manhoef, very poor too. After a great start it went rapidly downhill. Last few games we looked to be finishing strongly but tonight back to the second half collapse
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Post by shakermaker on Oct 22, 2024 22:23:11 GMT
I don't think the two in the middle of the park were particularly bad tonight. They scrapped and in Morans case were decent on the ball. The issue was and has been since NP came in, is that we get over run in midfield. At no point were we in control of that game tonight. A two man midfield doesn't work. You only get control 9f the game by winning that midfield battle. At half time, junho should of been off and Sol should of been on A double-pivot midfield requires ones deep-lying playmaker and one strong tackling terrier who get around the pitch. Thompson falls into the former category (albeit in average fashion), and Moran is definitely no muscle man. Pearson and Lawal fall into the latter category, but both of them are injured. I think we'll see a different side when one of those two are back, and Moran is moved forward into the No. 10 role.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Oct 22, 2024 23:34:32 GMT
I don't think the two in the middle of the park were particularly bad tonight. They scrapped and in Morans case were decent on the ball. The issue was and has been since NP came in, is that we get over run in midfield. At no point were we in control of that game tonight. A two man midfield doesn't work. You only get control 9f the game by winning that midfield battle. At half time, junho should of been off and Sol should of been on 100% agree spot on poor management today anyone could see we were very lucky to be ahead and it wouldn’t last
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Post by thepottypotter on Oct 23, 2024 2:06:22 GMT
Thommo really shouldn't be starting.
Sol and Seko should be ahead of him.
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Post by ed5993 on Oct 23, 2024 4:32:10 GMT
I don't think the two in the middle of the park were particularly bad tonight. They scrapped and in Morans case were decent on the ball. The issue was and has been since NP came in, is that we get over run in midfield. At no point were we in control of that game tonight. A two man midfield doesn't work. You only get control 9f the game by winning that midfield battle. At half time, junho should of been off and Sol should of been on It's not an NP thing. This has been largely true under Neil and Schumacher - also that stupid diamond Mad Dog Jones played. Sure, NP playing a 4-4-2 with Moran as one of them hasn't solved the situation. When we were playing formations with 3 traditional CMs, we also then were not creating so many chances.
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Post by thisisouryear on Oct 23, 2024 6:07:24 GMT
He's 4th or 5th choice midfielder and getting regular game time, it's not a good situation to be in
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Post by Biblical on Oct 23, 2024 6:42:23 GMT
He’s absolutely wank and it’s embarrassing that we decided to keep him on for another year when we could have been shut of him.
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Post by nottsover60 on Oct 24, 2024 16:12:55 GMT
Left his customary yellow card unusually late. I thought he wasn’t even going to make it at one point. Hardly a stick to beat him with when comparing him to Burger.
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Post by nottsover60 on Oct 24, 2024 16:14:46 GMT
Thompson is fine. Hes a bang average 6 most games. And thays better than Burger right now, so he's no issue. Thompson was poor. He was totally out played by his opponent, as were the rest of the outfield players. If that's the case, how come he is getting far more criticism than the rest of the outfield players?
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Post by nottsover60 on Oct 24, 2024 16:18:37 GMT
He also had a far higher pass completion percentage than Burger, at roundabout 92% if I remember correctly. In a Pelach team where keeping the ball is a vital part that is an important quality. Christ, I’d have a passing percentage of 92% if I only chose to pass to the fucker stood 5 yards behind me. I'm on holiday atm so haven't seen the games but the Sentinel suggested that Pelach had got him passing forward more?
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Post by jokker on Oct 24, 2024 16:19:47 GMT
I think there was worse on the pitch tonight. What in the name of fook has happened to our South Korean marvel? He's living off a dozen good games 6 months ago. Thompson wasnt the cause of their goals, shite defending was Bae took his time finding his way last season, and there were questions asked by the usual suspects. Once he did, there were no more questions. He's still young, he's frequently played out of position, and the managerial change has backfired for him.
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Post by superpotter on Oct 24, 2024 16:37:04 GMT
Thompson in midfield is where we are at (unless lawal is the prospect that will come good ) ,, 16th place finish, doesn’t want the ball passes back to the defenders when he gets it . Regular game time , never more than steady 6/10 . Managers for some reason think he’s great .
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Post by cdlstoke on Oct 24, 2024 17:45:59 GMT
Thompson in midfield is where we are at (unless lawal is the prospect that will come good ) ,, 16th place finish, doesn’t want the ball passes back to the defenders when he gets it . Regular game time , never more than steady 6/10 . Managers for some reason think he’s great . We all know what happened to them managers. See this ending up the same unfortunately. He isn’t the only one who isn’t very good and I’d include the whole defence in that. Think we need one hell of a window in January or we could be in trouble. The best of it is JC thought we were good enough yet again to challenge for promotion under SS. Keeps picking Manager after manager, who are no where near good enough and this job for the boys ain’t helping. We’re a basket club.
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Post by roylandstoke on Oct 24, 2024 20:15:14 GMT
Thompson was poor. He was totally out played by his opponent, as were the rest of the outfield players. If that's the case, how come he is getting far more criticism than the rest of the outfield players? Stoke fans love a scapegoat.
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Post by onionman on Oct 24, 2024 20:23:32 GMT
Left his customary yellow card unusually late. I thought he wasn’t even going to make it at one point. Hardly a stick to beat him with when comparing him to Burger. I wasn't comparing him to Burger. Thompson probably has a better disciplinary record than Vinnie Jones too. Well done Thompson!
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Oct 24, 2024 20:49:58 GMT
Him & Pearson in the same team,we could play a few matches with 10 or even 9 players on the pitch.
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