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Post by strettonstokie on Dec 1, 2024 18:50:15 GMT
If Mr coates isn't on the phone to Cooper's or Robins representatives first thing tomorrow morning then he is the biggest idiot on this earth
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Post by baconburger on Dec 1, 2024 18:56:13 GMT
The connection he keeps talking about between club and supporters seems to be more detached week by week🔴⚪️ probably because his football is shit and were averaging 1.15 points a game under him Exactly shit football is only ever tenable if it’s providing significantly improved results and even then some will still refuse to buy into it. |
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Dec 1, 2024 19:16:29 GMT
If Mr coates isn't on the phone to Cooper's or Robins representatives first thing tomorrow morning then he is the biggest idiot on this earth Sjw - hi Rob what’s cooper like Huth - players thought he was shit , supporters didn’t like him we got him because he was getting Forest relegated and Nuno saved their skin despite a points deduction sJw do you have his number |
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Post by strettonstokie on Dec 1, 2024 19:18:25 GMT
If Mr coates isn't on the phone to Cooper's or Robins representatives first thing tomorrow morning then he is the biggest idiot on this earth Sjw - hi Rob what’s cooper like Huth - players thought he was shit , supporters didn’t like him we got him because he was getting Forest relegated and Nuno saved their skin despite a points deduction sJw do you have his number God that's so unrealistic!! Mr Walters would be sacked aswell 😂😂 |
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Post by stokemark on Dec 1, 2024 19:20:21 GMT
I remain shocked that Pelach hasn't brought in an experienced assistant. I'm assuming he is too cock sure of himself to think it's necessary but he should be told otherwise.
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Post by thornestein on Dec 1, 2024 19:36:15 GMT
If Mr coates isn't on the phone to Cooper's or Robins representatives first thing tomorrow morning then he is the biggest idiot on this earth Sjw - hi Rob what’s cooper like Huth - players thought he was shit , supporters didn’t like him we got him because he was getting Forest relegated and Nuno saved their skin despite a points deduction sJw do you have his number imo Cooper would be the one i want , what he did at forest was awesome |
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Post by smallthorner on Dec 1, 2024 19:40:23 GMT
V Sunderland
Gooch Phillips Rose Stevens
....Seko.........Thompson.....
..........Moran...............
Koumas......Cannon......Bae
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Post by mamathestriker on Dec 1, 2024 19:42:18 GMT
I remain shocked that Pelach hasn't brought in an experienced assistant. I'm assuming he is too cock sure of himself to think it's necessary but he should be told otherwise. Not sure about an experienced assistant, but I do wonder what all the guys on the touchline with him do. Clement Whitehead Morris For a team with a head coach and these three, we look especially poorly coached. |
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Dec 1, 2024 19:50:02 GMT
We’re not gonna sack him and I’m not even sure we should before the end of the season.
The problem arises if they back him in a summer transfer window and then sack him 5 games in as they have done twice in 2 years. Because Coates has no long term plan and believes whatever anyone says to him if dressed up in flowery language.
Walters would essentially make his position untenable if he pulled the plug now, and given this is his first role with no previous record of success that could essentially end his career as an executive or at least throw him down the pyramid for a decade.
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Post by numpty40 on Dec 1, 2024 19:57:35 GMT
If Mr coates isn't on the phone to Cooper's or Robins representatives first thing tomorrow morning then he is the biggest idiot on this earth For the last few seasons I've been calling for a foreign coach because the available British coaches were so shit....however, we now have two very good British coaches available who will very quickly get snapped up, I'd throw everything we've got to get Robins, he doesn't seem to suffer fools gladly and maybe that's what we need at the club rather than a procession of yes men. I was genuinely excited that Pelach could change things and from a promising start it's got alarmingly worse, he's already gone into damage limitation mode within a couple of months. |
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Post by greenhoff on Dec 1, 2024 19:58:36 GMT
Sjw - hi Rob what’s cooper like Huth - players thought he was shit , supporters didn’t like him we got him because he was getting Forest relegated and Nuno saved their skin despite a points deduction sJw do you have his number imo Cooper would be the one i want , what he did at forest was awesome He was offered it in the Summer |
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Post by thornestein on Dec 1, 2024 20:08:36 GMT
imo Cooper would be the one i want , what he did at forest was awesome He was offered it in the Summer yeah i heard similar |
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Post by mamathestriker on Dec 1, 2024 20:09:12 GMT
imo Cooper would be the one i want , what he did at forest was awesome He was offered it in the Summer And close to saying yes before Leicester came calling. |
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Post by smallthorner on Dec 1, 2024 20:10:13 GMT
If Mr coates isn't on the phone to Cooper's or Robins representatives first thing tomorrow morning then he is the biggest idiot on this earth For the last few seasons I've been calling for a foreign coach because the available British coaches were so shit....however, we now have two very good British coaches available who will very quickly get snapped up, I'd throw everything we've got to get Robins, he doesn't seem to suffer fools gladly and maybe that's what we need at the club rather than a procession of yes men. I was genuinely excited that Pelach could change things and from a promising start it's got alarmingly worse, he's already gone into damage limitation mode within a couple of months. Yes. Feel similar. Got to give him until Xmas though in all honesty. |
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Post by mamathestriker on Dec 1, 2024 20:11:34 GMT
We’re not gonna sack him and I’m not even sure we should before the end of the season. The problem arises if they back him in a summer transfer window and then sack him 5 games in as they have done twice in 2 years. Because Coates has no long term plan and believes whatever anyone says to him if dressed up in flowery language. Walters would essentially make his position untenable if he pulled the plug now, and given this is his first role with no previous record of success that could essentially end his career as an executive or at least throw him down the pyramid for a decade. I'm not too sure. Lose the next two or three the pressure will really be on him. Walters would redeem himself with a Cooper or Robins type appointment. |
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Post by silverdollar on Dec 1, 2024 20:34:50 GMT
Absolutely frightening. It is you and hundreds like you that we need to get rid of. You've o lying just come down from yesterday's drink and drugs to even reply. Huge fan of Silverdollar here - criticising our match going supporters in every post while attending only one game this season and stating he won’t return because of the swearing. I am a season ticket holder and your information is wrong! I do hate what is happening to a once great city and that makes me critical of Stoke's degeneration, a complex social argument. But I know for a fact that no one on oatcake owns Stoke City. It costs an awful lot of money but it does not give them the right to make decisions. It is a fans job, for a relative much lower price to support their team of choice through thick and thin. That's what I choose to do. Am I happy about the relegation and time since then, No! I do think that a percentage of our so called fans is one of the major problems. Narcis Pelach should be given time and support to turn the club around but that is not an overnight thing. Choosing another manager would be a foolish and suicidal. We got beat on Saturday by a very good team but we were not bad as made out by demanding "fans" who can't cope with defeat. |
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Post by thornestein on Dec 1, 2024 20:40:22 GMT
For the last few seasons I've been calling for a foreign coach because the available British coaches were so shit....however, we now have two very good British coaches available who will very quickly get snapped up, I'd throw everything we've got to get Robins, he doesn't seem to suffer fools gladly and maybe that's what we need at the club rather than a procession of yes men. I was genuinely excited that Pelach could change things and from a promising start it's got alarmingly worse, he's already gone into damage limitation mode within a couple of months. Yes. Feel similar. Got to give him until Xmas though in all honesty. why ? , it’s the right time get rid of, give anyone new time to assess what we need before the window opens |
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Post by stokiejoe on Dec 1, 2024 20:59:16 GMT
Huge fan of Silverdollar here - criticising our match going supporters in every post while attending only one game this season and stating he won’t return because of the swearing. I am a season ticket holder and your information is wrong! I do hate what is happening to a once great city and that makes me critical of Stoke's degeneration, a complex social argument. But I know for a fact that no one on oatcake owns Stoke City. It costs an awful lot of money but it does not give them the right to make decisions. It is a fans job, for a relative much lower price to support their team of choice through thick and thin. That's what I choose to do. Am I happy about the relegation and time since then, No! I do think that a percentage of our so called fans is one of the major problems. Narcis Pelach should be given time and support to turn the club around but that is not an overnight thing. Choosing another manager would be a foolish and suicidal. We got beat on Saturday by a very good team but we were not bad as made out by demanding "fans" who can't cope with defeat. But he isn't the manager and he doesn't choose the players, Walters does, his task is to coach what he has been given and select an appropriate team. It's the manner in which we are playing that is causing most concern, we are all too often an easy target defensively. That may be forgiven if we were prolific goal scorers but we are not. How we play is uninspiring and hence the reduced attendance and sadly fans expressing themselves in the only way that will be noticed, booing. I just cannot see this unexperienced coach turning things around regardless of the amount given. Calling people "so called fans" because you disagree with their views is unbecoming. For the record I started supporting Stoke in 1958 and will continue supporting them until I die regardless of how good or poor or what division. |
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Dec 1, 2024 21:02:04 GMT
If Mr coates isn't on the phone to Cooper's or Robins representatives first thing tomorrow morning then he is the biggest idiot on this earth For the last few seasons I've been calling for a foreign coach because the available British coaches were so shit....however, we now have two very good British coaches available who will very quickly get snapped up, I'd throw everything we've got to get Robins, he doesn't seem to suffer fools gladly and maybe that's what we need at the club rather than a procession of yes men. I was genuinely excited that Pelach could change things and from a promising start it's got alarmingly worse, he's already gone into damage limitation mode within a couple of months. Robins would be my pick as well. He kinda just 'feels' like the right person to manage Stoke. |
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Post by baconburger on Dec 1, 2024 21:04:30 GMT
We’re not gonna sack him and I’m not even sure we should before the end of the season. The problem arises if they back him in a summer transfer window and then sack him 5 games in as they have done twice in 2 years. Because Coates has no long term plan and believes whatever anyone says to him if dressed up in flowery language. Walters would essentially make his position untenable if he pulled the plug now, and given this is his first role with no previous record of success that could essentially end his career as an executive or at least throw him down the pyramid for a decade. And ? I’m sure there’s a downside and you’re just delaying revealing it. |
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Post by smallthorner on Dec 1, 2024 21:09:17 GMT
Yes. Feel similar. Got to give him until Xmas though in all honesty. why ? , it’s the right time get rid of, give anyone new time to assess what we need before the window opens Decency and a sense that he may come good. Walters should already have a list of possible recruits in place in the event of a new manager. Xmas is the only time it could be done without embarrasment and credibility. |
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Post by thornestein on Dec 1, 2024 21:10:31 GMT
why ? , it’s the right time get rid of, give anyone new time to assess what we need before the window opens Decency and a sense that he may come good. Walters should already have a list of possible recruits in place in the event of a new manager. Xmas is the only time it could be done without embarrasment and credibility. can’t agree , for the reasons i’ve already said , it’s time now |
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Dec 1, 2024 21:13:36 GMT
why ? , it’s the right time get rid of, give anyone new time to assess what we need before the window opens Decency and a sense that he may come good. Walters should already have a list of possible recruits in place in the event of a new manager. Xmas is the only time it could be done without embarrasment and credibility. Will Walters have a list of possible recruiters though? He likely thinks NP is here for the long haul because he is the one who got him in. |
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Post by baconburger on Dec 1, 2024 21:18:15 GMT
Decency and a sense that he may come good. Walters should already have a list of possible recruits in place in the event of a new manager. Xmas is the only time it could be done without embarrasment and credibility. can’t agree , for the reasons i’ve already said , it’s time now Can’t see any consideration of embarrassment or credibility. JC has non and Walters needs to leave with Pelach. |
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Post by smallthorner on Dec 1, 2024 21:24:30 GMT
Decency and a sense that he may come good. Walters should already have a list of possible recruits in place in the event of a new manager. Xmas is the only time it could be done without embarrasment and credibility. Will Walters have a list of possible recruiters though? He likely thinks NP is here for the long haul because he is the one who got him in. I was thinking about possible players mate. Walters will give him as long as he can. If we've picked up a bit and accumulating points at xmas then him and JC will give him the window. If not then maybe the axe. Robins and Cooper snapped up by then and probs end up with Mowbray. Another season wasted ... But that's what we expect now. |
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Post by idle on Dec 1, 2024 22:23:26 GMT
Ultimately the question still remains, would it be any worse under SS? I think majority of us know the answer by now. So what was the point? If we'd replaced SS with a genuine upgrade, we'd not even be thinking this. NP was ultimately a gamble we absolutely didn't need to take, and it's still looking like a crazy decision 3 months later. He's a rookie, and I feel like he's not someone I think looks like he commands respect. This is exactly what I said the day NP was hired and was slated by the Schuey haters for it. It was a gamble we didn't need to take. And while I don't think NP will take us down as he's too defensive and will grind out a point here and there to get us to 50, relegation could still happen, especially if JW's stubborn enough. |
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Post by pavel on Dec 1, 2024 22:34:46 GMT
why ? , it’s the right time get rid of, give anyone new time to assess what we need before the window opens Decency and a sense that he may come good. Walters should already have a list of possible recruits in place in the event of a new manager. Xmas is the only time it could be done without embarrasment and credibility. Actually Coates should already have a list of possible recruits for both positions. Whether they are sensible or viable is a moot point but he should have seen enough to know he has been fooled again! |
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Post by kustokie on Dec 1, 2024 22:37:07 GMT
I remain shocked that Pelach hasn't brought in an experienced assistant. I'm assuming he is too cock sure of himself to think it's necessary but he should be told otherwise. Not sure about an experienced assistant, but I do wonder what all the guys on the touchline with him do. Clement Whitehead Morris For a team with a head coach and these three, we look especially poorly coached. “In the land of the blind the one-eyed is king”. Alternatively, why would an experienced assistant coach work for a very inexperienced head coach? This is a total shambles that can only be fixed if PC admits his son doesn’t know what he’s doing. |
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Post by smallthorner on Dec 1, 2024 23:58:47 GMT
Not sure about an experienced assistant, but I do wonder what all the guys on the touchline with him do. Clement Whitehead Morris For a team with a head coach and these three, we look especially poorly coached. “In the land of the blind the one-eyed is king”. Alternatively, why would an experienced assistant coach work for a very inexperienced head coach? This is a total shambles that can only be fixed if PC admits his son doesn’t know what he’s doing. Does Peter have any influence now? Reckon JC has the keys to the castle. I'm not giving up on Narcis yet tbh. But, come Christmas time it might be a different story. The last two home games have been abysmal, let's not kid ourselves. David Moyes anyone?? |
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Post by george2again on Dec 2, 2024 7:36:13 GMT
We’re not gonna sack him and I’m not even sure we should before the end of the season. The problem arises if they back him in a summer transfer window and then sack him 5 games in as they have done twice in 2 years. Because Coates has no long term plan and believes whatever anyone says to him if dressed up in flowery language. Walters would essentially make his position untenable if he pulled the plug now, and given this is his first role with no previous record of success that could essentially end his career as an executive or at least throw him down the pyramid for a decade. Not sure I agree with that. Admitting a mistake and having the balls to act on it is far more admirable than backing a lame pony for the sake of it. This coach is gone sooner or later. |
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