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Post by ChesterStokie on Dec 1, 2024 12:17:50 GMT
Why do I keep reading about the January transfer window as if it's going to be our saviour?
When did we last buy a transformative player in January?
Desperate I know but realistically Gallagher and / or Lawal are more likely to improve us than any player we happen to fluke upon in January.
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Post by loosestools on Dec 1, 2024 12:35:26 GMT
was there many boo’s yesterday, have the crowds started turn ? , it will be this which will push the situation regarding NP There was some booing but it was not excessive. |
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Post by baconburger on Dec 1, 2024 12:38:41 GMT
was there many boo’s yesterday, have the crowds started turn ? , it will be this which will push the situation regarding NP There was some booing but it was not excessive. Note to self. Must stay and boo if that’s what is required. |
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Post by silverdollar on Dec 1, 2024 12:50:45 GMT
There was some booing but it was not excessive. Note to self. Must stay and boo if that’s what is required. Did you ever throw a tantrum and start crying when you wanted an ice cream off your parents. It's just like you booers at the football. Stoke have made contract commitments to this and past managers. Most who have gone on to achieve better perhaps than they did at Stoke. I would have thought that by now that any problems we may have will not be cured by throwing our toys out of the pram every time we lose. Our manager has proved himself as a respected coach. Our biggest problem is our so called "fans" who are so impatient. They want their team to become brilliant over night and it is not going to happen. |
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Post by baconburger on Dec 1, 2024 13:01:37 GMT
Note to self. Must stay and boo if that’s what is required. Did you ever throw a tantrum and start crying when you wanted an ice cream off your parents. It's just like you booers at the football. Stoke have made contract commitments to this and past managers. Most who have gone on to achieve better perhaps than they did at Stoke. I would have thought that by now that any problems we may have will not be cured by throwing our toys out of the pram every time we lose. Our manager has proved himself as a respected coach. Our biggest problem is our so called "fans" who are so impatient. They want their team to become brilliant over night and it is not going to happen. Naah I haven’t been a fan of a number of our previous appointments but was willing to see how things developed and all the last three provided a short period of pretty good football . I’m afraid this bloke pretty much lost me after 2 games. I simply wouldn’t enjoy his football even if it had better outcomes. It’s not results I demand just the prospect of maybe enjoying a game of football on a semi regular basis and this just isn’t it. |
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Dec 1, 2024 13:22:13 GMT
Did you ever throw a tantrum and start crying when you wanted an ice cream off your parents. It's just like you booers at the football. Stoke have made contract commitments to this and past managers. Most who have gone on to achieve better perhaps than they did at Stoke. I would have thought that by now that any problems we may have will not be cured by throwing our toys out of the pram every time we lose. Our manager has proved himself as a respected coach. Our biggest problem is our so called "fans" who are so impatient. They want their team to become brilliant over night and it is not going to happen. Naah I haven’t been a fan of a number of our previous appointments but was willing to see how things developed and all the last three provided a short period of pretty good football . I’m afraid this bloke pretty much lost me after 2 games. I simply wouldn’t enjoy his football even if it had better outcomes. It’s not results I demand just the prospect of maybe enjoying a game of football on a semi regular basis and this just isn’t it. I'm not having this.....its the fans fault. Just fucking entertain us and they'll be surprised how positive the fans can be. That said I'm not convinced yet another manager change is the right thing to do. Its getting boring now. But Pelach wants putting on warning that part of his job is to entertain. We did okay 1st half yesterday but its very concerning how we're coming out second halves and getting done. What's happening in those half time team talks. We've got to be more positive and take teams head on. And the crowd will rise to that. |
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Post by jay1610 on Dec 1, 2024 13:24:32 GMT
Naah I haven’t been a fan of a number of our previous appointments but was willing to see how things developed and all the last three provided a short period of pretty good football . I’m afraid this bloke pretty much lost me after 2 games. I simply wouldn’t enjoy his football even if it had better outcomes. It’s not results I demand just the prospect of maybe enjoying a game of football on a semi regular basis and this just isn’t it. I'm not having this.....its the fans fault. Just fucking entertain us and they'll be surprised how positive the fans can be. That said I'm not convinced yet another manager change is the right thing to do. Its getting boring now. But Pelach wants putting on warning that part of his job is to entertain. We did okay 1st half yesterday but its very concerning how we're coming out second halves and getting done. What's happening in those half time team talks. We've got to be more positive and take teams head on. And the crowd will rise to that. I don’t even think they need to set out to entertain. Just go after the opposition and as soon as there’s a whiff of blood in the water the crowd will respond. We hardly have sustained spells of pressure at home (or away!). |
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Post by kustokie on Dec 1, 2024 13:32:34 GMT
Note to self. Must stay and boo if that’s what is required. Did you ever throw a tantrum and start crying when you wanted an ice cream off your parents. It's just like you booers at the football. Stoke have made contract commitments to this and past managers. Most who have gone on to achieve better perhaps than they did at Stoke. I would have thought that by now that any problems we may have will not be cured by throwing our toys out of the pram every time we lose. Our manager has proved himself as a respected coach. Our biggest problem is our so called "fans" who are so impatient. They want their team to become brilliant over night and it is not going to happen. This is ridiculous. The fans have every right to show their displeasure. They pay good money and are not getting anything from the team in return. Stoke’s ownership has been the epitome of insanity: change the manger every 6 - 12 months and hope for a different results. Every manager since MON has been worse than the previous one. MON did a good job of cleaning house and reducing the wage bill but was never given a chance to rebuild. Get rid of Coates and SJW - they don’t have a clue. |
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Post by swampySCFC on Dec 1, 2024 13:42:00 GMT
You have to earn respect and he hasn’t done that at Stoke so far but it’s early days and he needs to recruit some of his own players maybe in January.
Just wish he wouldn’t trot the same crap out after every game otherwise his stock will only go one way
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Post by baconburger on Dec 1, 2024 13:45:56 GMT
I'm not having this.....its the fans fault. Just fucking entertain us and they'll be surprised how positive the fans can be. That said I'm not convinced yet another manager change is the right thing to do. Its getting boring now. But Pelach wants putting on warning that part of his job is to entertain. We did okay 1st half yesterday but its very concerning how we're coming out second halves and getting done. What's happening in those half time team talks. We've got to be more positive and take teams head on. And the crowd will rise to that. I don’t even think they need to set out to entertain. Just go after the opposition and as soon as there’s a whiff of blood in the water the crowd will respond. We hardly have sustained spells of pressure at home (or away!). So if they just go after the opposition what will they be trying to do bore us? Entertainment is not this type of football or that type of football it's not being dour, passive and shit scared of losing. Just make sure we can see and feel you're doing everything you possibly can to try to win the game and if in doing that we lose so be it. Don't play for draws, don't settle for draws, don't try to shut down/spoil games. |
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Post by smithypotter on Dec 1, 2024 13:46:12 GMT
Ultimately the question still remains, would it be any worse under SS?
I think majority of us know the answer by now.
So what was the point?
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Post by kustokie on Dec 1, 2024 13:50:15 GMT
Ultimately the question still remains, would it be any worse under SS? I think majority of us know the answer by now. So what was the point? It is hard to imagine how it could be worse. Something went on behind the scenes that we’ll probably know. But something is definitely wrong with this club. |
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Post by mamathestriker on Dec 1, 2024 13:51:46 GMT
Ultimately the question still remains, would it be any worse under SS? I think majority of us know the answer by now. So what was the point? If we'd replaced SS with a genuine upgrade, we'd not even be thinking this. NP was ultimately a gamble we absolutely didn't need to take, and it's still looking like a crazy decision 3 months later. He's a rookie, and I feel like he's not someone I think looks like he commands respect. |
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Post by dutchstokie on Dec 1, 2024 13:58:46 GMT
Note to self. Must stay and boo if that’s what is required. Did you ever throw a tantrum and start crying when you wanted an ice cream off your parents. It's just like you booers at the football. Stoke have made contract commitments to this and past managers. Most who have gone on to achieve better perhaps than they did at Stoke. I would have thought that by now that any problems we may have will not be cured by throwing our toys out of the pram every time we lose. Our manager has proved himself as a respected coach. Our biggest problem is our so called "fans" who are so impatient. They want their team to become brilliant over night and it is not going to happen. Wrong on so many levels it’s hard to know how to respond |
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Post by smithypotter on Dec 1, 2024 14:03:21 GMT
Ultimately the question still remains, would it be any worse under SS? I think majority of us know the answer by now. So what was the point? If we'd replaced SS with a genuine upgrade, we'd not even be thinking this. NP was ultimately a gamble we absolutely didn't need to take, and it's still looking like a crazy decision 3 months later. He's a rookie, and I feel like he's not someone I think looks like he commands respect. Obviously it would have been understandable if we'd had acquired someone in the mould of Steve Cooper. But we didn't. Maybe I'll eat my words when Pelach ends up on the same trajectory as Arteta did with Arsenal. It's the hope that kills you. |
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Post by mamathestriker on Dec 1, 2024 14:04:38 GMT
If we'd replaced SS with a genuine upgrade, we'd not even be thinking this. NP was ultimately a gamble we absolutely didn't need to take, and it's still looking like a crazy decision 3 months later. He's a rookie, and I feel like he's not someone I think looks like he commands respect. Obviously it would have been understandable if we'd had acquired someone in the mould of Steve Cooper. But we didn't. Maybe I'll eat my words when Pelach ends up on the same trajectory as Arteta did with Arsenal. It's the hope that kills you. I hope we do eat our own words. This next three feels particularly important though. |
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Post by kustokie on Dec 1, 2024 14:24:34 GMT
If we'd replaced SS with a genuine upgrade, we'd not even be thinking this. NP was ultimately a gamble we absolutely didn't need to take, and it's still looking like a crazy decision 3 months later. He's a rookie, and I feel like he's not someone I think looks like he commands respect. Obviously it would have been understandable if we'd had acquired someone in the mould of Steve Cooper. But we didn't. Maybe I'll eat my words when Pelach ends up on the same trajectory as Arteta did with Arsenal. It's the hope that kills you. I hope you’re right. But I fear this is the triumph of hope over experience. |
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Post by stokieoldboy on Dec 1, 2024 14:57:58 GMT
Narcis Pelach,comes across as a very nice charismatic guy, he speaks very well about the game, and I’m sure the players warm to him, and everyone connected with the club,BUT he should be serving his MANAGERIAL/COACHING/THROW-IN/KITMAN APPRENTICESHIP,with a much lower club, than STOKE CITY,he’s out of his depth,and its beginning to show,his tactics are embarrassing to watch, and most of the fans are sick and tired of watching shit football, week in, week out and deserve better,we have great support. home and way, and pay good money to watch entertaining football, but sadly, it won’t be with this guy in charge.
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Post by silverdollar on Dec 1, 2024 16:12:31 GMT
Did you ever throw a tantrum and start crying when you wanted an ice cream off your parents. It's just like you booers at the football. Stoke have made contract commitments to this and past managers. Most who have gone on to achieve better perhaps than they did at Stoke. I would have thought that by now that any problems we may have will not be cured by throwing our toys out of the pram every time we lose. Our manager has proved himself as a respected coach. Our biggest problem is our so called "fans" who are so impatient. They want their team to become brilliant over night and it is not going to happen. This is ridiculous. The fans have every right to show their displeasure. They pay good money and are not getting anything from the team in return. Stoke’s ownership has been the epitome of insanity: change the manger every 6 - 12 months and hope for a different results. Every manager since MON has been worse than the previous one. MON did a good job of cleaning house and reducing the wage bill but was never given a chance to rebuild. Get rid of Coates and SJW - they don’t have a clue. Absolutely frightening. It is you and hundreds like you that we need to get rid of. You've o lying just come down from yesterday's drink and drugs to even reply. |
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Post by baconburger on Dec 1, 2024 16:17:23 GMT
This is ridiculous. The fans have every right to show their displeasure. They pay good money and are not getting anything from the team in return. Stoke’s ownership has been the epitome of insanity: change the manger every 6 - 12 months and hope for a different results. Every manager since MON has been worse than the previous one. MON did a good job of cleaning house and reducing the wage bill but was never given a chance to rebuild. Get rid of Coates and SJW - they don’t have a clue. Absolutely frightening. It is you and hundreds like you that we need to get rid of. You've o lying just come down from yesterday's drink and drugs to even reply. Why stop at hundreds lets go for thousands. Anyone who's views don't conform with what the club are currently doing we'd be better off without. Just think if we'd done that with all the other regimes we'd have no fans left at all already and no one would be suffering watching this crap. |
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Post by PottersBrim on Dec 1, 2024 16:24:38 GMT
Narcis Pelach,comes across as a very nice charismatic guy, he speaks very well about the game, and I’m sure the players warm to him, and everyone connected with the club,BUT he should be serving his MANAGEMENT APPRENTICESHIP,with a much lower club, than STOKE CITY,he’s out of his depth,and its beginning to show,his tactics are embarrassing to watch, and most of the fans are sick and tired of watching shit football, week in, week out and deserve better,we have great support. home and way, and pay good money to watch entertaining football, but sadly, it won’t be with this guy in charge. Exactly this. He’s clearly a nice guy doing his best, but it’s just as clear that he’s miles out of his depth. It’s not his fault - he should never have been offered the job, and you can’t blame him for accepting it. The real blame lies with JC and JW. The team’s management is poor, but the management of the club is even worse. |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Dec 1, 2024 16:36:36 GMT
You have to earn respect and he hasn’t done that at Stoke so far but it’s early days and he needs to recruit some of his own players maybe in January. Just wish he wouldn’t trot the same crap out after every game otherwise his stock will only go one way He isn't meant to be recruiting his own players under the new structure that's been put in place. |
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Post by peterthornesboots on Dec 1, 2024 17:10:26 GMT
We have some bloody tough games coming up over the Christmas period and you wonder where the next win is going to come from. Underwhelming draws against the likes of QPR and Preston (plus throwing away a two-goal lead against Bristol) might come back to haunt Pelach if we go on a winless run. We desperately need the January transfer window to arrive so that we can try and strengthen the squad. But do you have the belief that we will bring in the right players in January? From the summer business only Johannson & Philips have been a success. We have major issues throughout that need rectifying & unlikely to get that sorted in January. Honestly? No. However, we need extra bodies from somewhere. If you look at our bench yesterday (apart from Koumas) we have no one who can impact the game positively. |
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Post by thornestein on Dec 1, 2024 17:28:54 GMT
This is ridiculous. The fans have every right to show their displeasure. They pay good money and are not getting anything from the team in return. Stoke’s ownership has been the epitome of insanity: change the manger every 6 - 12 months and hope for a different results. Every manager since MON has been worse than the previous one. MON did a good job of cleaning house and reducing the wage bill but was never given a chance to rebuild. Get rid of Coates and SJW - they don’t have a clue. Absolutely frightening. It is you and hundreds like you that we need to get rid of. You've o lying just come down from yesterday's drink and drugs to even reply. it’s fans like you that are frightening, put up with any old shit , no ambition and would see out club in league 2 happy clapping along the way |
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Post by bertiestan on Dec 1, 2024 17:33:16 GMT
The connection he keeps talking about between club and supporters seems to be more detached week by week🔴⚪️
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Post by thornestein on Dec 1, 2024 17:43:11 GMT
The connection he keeps talking about between club and supporters seems to be more detached week by week🔴⚪️ probably because his football is shit and were averaging 1.15 points a game under him |
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Post by PottersBrim on Dec 1, 2024 17:49:53 GMT
This is ridiculous. The fans have every right to show their displeasure. They pay good money and are not getting anything from the team in return. Stoke’s ownership has been the epitome of insanity: change the manger every 6 - 12 months and hope for a different results. Every manager since MON has been worse than the previous one. MON did a good job of cleaning house and reducing the wage bill but was never given a chance to rebuild. Get rid of Coates and SJW - they don’t have a clue. Absolutely frightening. It is you and hundreds like you that we need to get rid of. You've o lying just come down from yesterday's drink and drugs to even reply. Huge fan of Silverdollar here - criticising our match going supporters in every post while attending only one game this season and stating he won’t return because of the swearing. |
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Post by stokiejoe on Dec 1, 2024 17:51:15 GMT
Note to self. Must stay and boo if that’s what is required. Did you ever throw a tantrum and start crying when you wanted an ice cream off your parents. It's just like you booers at the football. Stoke have made contract commitments to this and past managers. Most who have gone on to achieve better perhaps than they did at Stoke. I would have thought that by now that any problems we may have will not be cured by throwing our toys out of the pram every time we lose. Our manager has proved himself as a respected coach. Our biggest problem is our so called "fans" who are so impatient. They want their team to become brilliant over night and it is not going to happen. Been a fan since 1958, out of interest how much longer should I wait? |
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Post by gingerninja on Dec 1, 2024 18:40:20 GMT
Whichever way you dress it up, appointing Pelach was a massive risk by Walters, going from the relatively inexperienced Schumacher, to the even more inexperienced Pelach.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Dec 1, 2024 18:47:37 GMT
Did you ever throw a tantrum and start crying when you wanted an ice cream off your parents. It's just like you booers at the football. Stoke have made contract commitments to this and past managers. Most who have gone on to achieve better perhaps than they did at Stoke. I would have thought that by now that any problems we may have will not be cured by throwing our toys out of the pram every time we lose. Our manager has proved himself as a respected coach. Our biggest problem is our so called "fans" who are so impatient. They want their team to become brilliant over night and it is not going to happen. This is ridiculous. The fans have every right to show their displeasure. They pay good money and are not getting anything from the team in return. Stoke’s ownership has been the epitome of insanity: change the manger every 6 - 12 months and hope for a different results. Every manager since MON has been worse than the previous one. MON did a good job of cleaning house and reducing the wage bill but was never given a chance to rebuild. Get rid of Coates and SJW - they don’t have a clue. I flew back from Spain to watch the Preston game, the Ryanair non priority queue was more exciting than the shit our lot served up! |
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