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Post by onyourbonce on Sept 20, 2024 23:10:56 GMT
Although bae wasn’t great tonight he had moments and hopefully he can get back to his best in the coming weeks but burger……what the fuck has happened to this guy? He has completely lost all confidence in being a professional footballer. He looks awkward, he ambles around the pitch not doing much. You can see he had zero confidence when he gets the ball. I just don’t know what has happened to the guy
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Post by numpty40 on Sept 20, 2024 23:11:46 GMT
Both missing in action again tonight WTF has happened to the pair of them🤷♂️ I thought there were moments of promise for Junho tonight, not many but certainly better than the last few games. Burger is a major worry, he really looks like a Sunday League player at the moment. |
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Post by nottsover60 on Sept 20, 2024 23:15:13 GMT
Both missing in action again tonight WTF has happened to the pair of them🤷♂️ I thought there were moments of promise for Junho tonight, not many but certainly better than the last few games. Burger is a major worry, he really looks like a Sunday League player at the moment. Agree there was some of last season's fire in his belly tonight. And it was a great corner for the goal. |
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Sept 21, 2024 0:14:50 GMT
I thought Burger was average. Junho lost all confidence and needed to build his strength but hasn't.
Neither look good enough to be playing at the moment.
Sol was great Tuesday but left out, shM Moran was ill
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Post by nottsover60 on Sept 21, 2024 0:30:28 GMT
Having just watched the highlights, nearly everything good in the first half involved Junho but nearly everything bad in the second half involved Burger dangling a leg in a powder puff challenge instead of tackling a player with force. Wilmot will rightly get pelters for the second but Burger got there to put in a challenge but was so weak. Same for the third. Seko instead of him next week please.
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Post by LphPotter on Sept 21, 2024 1:17:58 GMT
Having just watched the highlights, nearly everything good in the first half involved Junho but nearly everything bad in the second half involved Burger dangling a leg in a powder puff challenge instead of tackling a player with force. Wilmot will rightly get pelters for the second but Burger got there to put in a challenge but was so weak. Same for the third. Seko instead of him next week please. The problem is neither Thompson nor Burger deserve to start the next game, but is it too much of a risk to go Seko and Sidibe who have never played together and are inexperienced in this league. |
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Post by big p on Sept 21, 2024 1:27:51 GMT
I’d get Burger out of the starting line up quicker than Kerry Katona getting her bacon out on OF, an absolutely disgraceful dereliction of footballing duties, Sol has to replace, has to. I aren’t Thompson’a biggest fans by any stretch but he was like Maradona compared to Burger tonight. Bae, I have no idea, but he is a shadow of last seasons Bae, has to improve
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Post by nottsover60 on Sept 21, 2024 10:50:15 GMT
Having just watched the highlights, nearly everything good in the first half involved Junho but nearly everything bad in the second half involved Burger dangling a leg in a powder puff challenge instead of tackling a player with force. Wilmot will rightly get pelters for the second but Burger got there to put in a challenge but was so weak. Same for the third. Seko instead of him next week please. The problem is neither Thompson nor Burger deserve to start the next game, but is it too much of a risk to go Seko and Sidibe who have never played together and are inexperienced in this league. I think Thompson is adequate, does what he needs to do. For me this season though Burger has been the worst player. The excuse was made for him that he was playing out of position but last night got his deep midfielder role and proved why he should never get it again. He can't tackle and unlike Pearson he doesn't compensate for that by reading the game. Neither Seko nor Sidibe would be as bad as he was so no risk. |
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Sept 21, 2024 10:52:15 GMT
Maybe they thought some bigger clubs were coming in for them,but didn't happen,so their heads are not in the right place.
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Post by RAF on Sept 21, 2024 10:54:10 GMT
It's alarming enough when a player looks like he doesn't give a fuck whilst playing, it's catastrophic when you can actually see it in their face.
Bench him or fuck him off I don't care.
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Post by skip on Sept 21, 2024 11:18:22 GMT
I’d get Burger out of the starting line up quicker than Kerry Katona getting her bacon out on OF. Bower's trousers, that is a meaty metaphor and a half. |
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Post by skip on Sept 21, 2024 11:21:46 GMT
It's alarming enough when a player looks like he doesn't give a fuck whilst playing, it's catastrophic when you can actually see it in their face. Bench him or fuck him off I don't care. H Presumably you mean Burger? I don't know what the fuck is going on there right now, apart from a footballer with above average intelligence and self awareness to realise that the club he signed for is more interested in turning the stadium into a lightshow than a push for promotion. Unprofessional he may be but it speaks volumes when a player of his potential looks like he would have rather been anywhere else. From the cheeky wink to camera going for a burger in the reveal video to last night. All too predicable and grim. |
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Post by RAF on Sept 21, 2024 11:55:45 GMT
It's alarming enough when a player looks like he doesn't give a fuck whilst playing, it's catastrophic when you can actually see it in their face. Bench him or fuck him off I don't care. H Presumably you mean Burger? I don't know what the fuck is going on there right now, apart from a footballer with above average intelligence and self awareness to realise that the club he signed for is more interested in turning the stadium into a lightshow than a push for promotion. Unprofessional he may be but it speaks volumes when a player of his potential looks like he would have rather been anywhere else. From the cheeky wink to camera going for a burger in the reveal video to last night. All too predicable and grim. Yeah, sorry Skip I did mean Burger. Total negative transformation in 12 months. It's the old addage, anyone who is good comes to us and becomes shit. You couldn't make it up. Hope you are well btw? H |
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Post by skip on Sept 21, 2024 12:28:55 GMT
Presumably you mean Burger? I don't know what the fuck is going on there right now, apart from a footballer with above average intelligence and self awareness to realise that the club he signed for is more interested in turning the stadium into a lightshow than a push for promotion. Unprofessional he may be but it speaks volumes when a player of his potential looks like he would have rather been anywhere else. From the cheeky wink to camera going for a burger in the reveal video to last night. All too predicable and grim. Yeah, sorry Skip I did mean Burger. Total negative transformation in 12 months. It's the old addage, anyone who is good comes to us and becomes shit. You couldn't make it up. Hope you are well btw? H Aye. I'm ok yeah thanks. Hope you are too. |
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Post by RAF on Sept 21, 2024 12:30:46 GMT
I'm ok , plodding along, mostly in disappointment, but what's new?
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Post by Stoke70 on Sept 21, 2024 12:38:54 GMT
How many players were good when they started with Stoke and turned absolutely clueless in matter of weeks or months ?
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Post by nottsover60 on Sept 21, 2024 13:17:34 GMT
How many players were good when they started with Stoke and turned absolutely clueless in matter of weeks or months ? Even Koumas already. Mind you I thought the beginning of the end for Schumacher was taking Koumas out of the middle after he had such a good debut there. |
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Post by stokest5 on Sept 21, 2024 15:14:21 GMT
How many players were good when they started with Stoke and turned absolutely clueless in matter of weeks or months ? Even Koumas already. Mind you I thought the beginning of the end for Schumacher was taking Koumas out of the middle after he had such a good debut there. So the knifes are out for Koumas now! I despair! Koumas’s natural position isn’t even centrally. He’s done nothing wrong we’re lucky to and him now he’ll eventually go into much bigger and better things. |
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Post by nottsover60 on Sept 21, 2024 16:42:46 GMT
Even Koumas already. Mind you I thought the beginning of the end for Schumacher was taking Koumas out of the middle after he had such a good debut there. So the knifes are out for Koumas now! I despair! Koumas’s natural position isn’t even centrally. He’s done nothing wrong we’re lucky to and him now he’ll eventually go into much bigger and better things. No he's still our biggest threat. I was referring to how we mess players about by changing their positions. Koumas is a very good player, too good for the Championship but in the month he's been here I think we've managed to play him in four different positions, left, right, central and supporting. He played excellently on debut but was shifted to make room for Cannon. We need consistent team selection until the players know each other. He may not be a natural lone striker, but that was his best game and by pushing him wide we have had to move Junho and Million. As I predicted before we loaned him, Cannon has created more problems than he has solved. |
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Post by stokest5 on Sept 21, 2024 17:14:01 GMT
So the knifes are out for Koumas now! I despair! Koumas’s natural position isn’t even centrally. He’s done nothing wrong we’re lucky to and him now he’ll eventually go into much bigger and better things. No he's still our biggest threat. I was referring to how we mess players about by changing their positions. Koumas is a very good player, too good for the Championship but in the month he's been here I think we've managed to play him in four different positions, left, right, central and supporting. He played excellently on debut but was shifted to make room for Cannon. We need consistent team selection until the players know each other. He may not be a natural lone striker, but that was his best game and by pushing him wide we have had to move Junho and Million. As I predicted before we loaned him, Cannon has created more problems than he has solved. The question was how many players were good when they started with Stoke and turned absolutely clueless in matter of weeks or months ? You answered Koumas. Koumas can play all across the front but prefers the left. It makes perfect sense to moves a player into a position he can play to accommodate Cannon a player we’ve been after all summer. People are talking has though Koumas has been shoehorned out on the wing when that’s his actual position. He only played that game centrally because we had no one else. The decisions made make perfect sense on paper. |
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Post by nottsover60 on Sept 21, 2024 17:19:37 GMT
No he's still our biggest threat. I was referring to how we mess players about by changing their positions. Koumas is a very good player, too good for the Championship but in the month he's been here I think we've managed to play him in four different positions, left, right, central and supporting. He played excellently on debut but was shifted to make room for Cannon. We need consistent team selection until the players know each other. He may not be a natural lone striker, but that was his best game and by pushing him wide we have had to move Junho and Million. As I predicted before we loaned him, Cannon has created more problems than he has solved. The question was how many players were good when they started with Stoke and turned absolutely clueless in matter of weeks or months ? You answered Koumas. Koumas can play all across the front but prefers the left. It makes perfect sense to moves a player into a position he can play to accommodate Cannon a player we’ve been after all summer. People are talking has though Koumas has been shoehorned out on the wing when that’s his actual position. He only played that game centrally because we had no one else. The decisions made make perfect sense on paper. As I read it the question was how many players get worse. I light heartedly said Koumas as his best match was his first. My husband is not a Stoke fan and whenever I tell him how good a player is and how he'll end up playing in the Premier he always says "I'll believe it when it happens," and I don't think I've ever been able to say "Told you so". Koumas is the first player he's ever agreed with me on. |
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Post by pottersrule on Sept 22, 2024 5:41:02 GMT
Both missing in action again tonight WTF has happened to the pair of them🤷♂️ I have no conspiracy to offer but something just doesn't seem right. You don't go from the best two players to this for no reason. Burger especially just looks like a shadow of what he was. He needed taming, not nullifying completely. He was poor backend of last season and was rightly benched.Has started the season as he finished the last. |
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Post by boweryboy on Sept 22, 2024 11:36:24 GMT
Don't know what it is with Burger,he always seems to be in the way of other players, comes towards the player with the ball,receives a five yard pass then gives it him back,then does a Clucas and starts pointing to where it should go next.definatly needs benching, he's contributing nothing,as are a few others,I see in the papers that we approached two other managers before the end of last season and they both turned us down,so we must now have the third choice in charge....great
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Post by boothendagger on Sept 28, 2024 19:47:18 GMT
Both our shinining lights last season, both linked with big money moves this summer. What's happened? Where are they this season? Dreadful.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Sept 28, 2024 19:52:20 GMT
You couldn’t find the others threads on this…
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Post by Gods on Sept 28, 2024 20:31:50 GMT
We've no midfield at all after we recklessly canned Baker and Laurent with no meaningful alternatives.
The lengthy extension to Pearson's long term injury is the final nail in our coffin.
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Post by boothendagger on Sept 28, 2024 20:32:22 GMT
You couldn’t find the others threads on this… No, not through all the turgid shit, not got the time like you mate. Serous point, bore off if you dont like it. |
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Post by premieraj on Sept 28, 2024 20:33:07 GMT
We've no midfield at all after we recklessly canned Baker and Laurent with no meaningful alternatives. The lengthy extension to Pearson's long term injury is the last nail in our coffin. Baker was a sub for Blackburn so not ripping up trees is he…, |
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Post by smithypotter on Sept 28, 2024 20:41:15 GMT
Bae's best position has always been on the left of the front 3. The midfield is so passive it's unbeilable, if we're playing a 433 Koumas should be leading the line as was the case in August when he looked a threat. Cannon should be nowhere near the team in that formation. The only other formation I would even contemplate is a 442 with Gallagher + Koumas/Cannon as a partnership, but I would not trust my life on Burger in a 2 man midfield. Sidibe + Thompson until Lawal is fit. Two banks of four and tell the wide players to stay wide and track their runners. Even then we have such little grit in the middle of the park. In an alternative universe an injury free and not fat version of Pearson would help but lets be honest he's only still here for his Rehabilitation.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Sept 28, 2024 20:42:23 GMT
Bae has no end product he had zero last season and even less this
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