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Post by AlbertTatlock on Sept 14, 2024 14:13:31 GMT
What has happened to them? Has someone abducted them and replaced them with doppelgangers from the Vale? Gouranga.  |
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Post by scfcno1fan on Sept 14, 2024 14:18:31 GMT
Both have been incredibly poor so far.
More so burger. He barely looks a footballer.
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Post by Gods on Sept 14, 2024 14:21:22 GMT
I just don't think they have the raw physicality needed.
Josh Laurent and Lewis Baker weren't exactly amazing but at least they had the tools for the job.
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Post by LphPotter on Sept 14, 2024 14:21:52 GMT
A bit harsh on Junho but Burger is definitely starting to become a concern.
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Post by LphPotter on Sept 14, 2024 14:22:20 GMT
I just don't think they have the raw physicality needed. Josh Laurent and Lewis Baker weren't exactly amazing but at least they had the tools for the job. Laurent and Baker physicality?? |
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Post by robwahlmann on Sept 14, 2024 14:25:55 GMT
What has happened to them? Has someone abducted them and replaced them with doppelgangers from the Vale? Gouranga. It certainly looks possible from what I've seen!  |
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Post by stokest5 on Sept 14, 2024 14:40:35 GMT
I just don't think they have the raw physicality needed. Josh Laurent and Lewis Baker weren't exactly amazing but at least they had the tools for the job. They are certainly off the pace so far and both without a doubt massively overrated by a lot of people. To rate Laurent and Baker over them though is a ridiculous comment. |
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Post by scfcno1fan on Sept 14, 2024 14:51:34 GMT
Burger has to be dropped for the Hull game.
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Post by stokecitydom on Sept 14, 2024 14:56:45 GMT
I just don't think they have the raw physicality needed. Josh Laurent and Lewis Baker weren't exactly amazing but at least they had the tools for the job. An utterly ridiculous comment. |
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Post by gcamoutsideboot on Sept 14, 2024 14:59:01 GMT
Maybe they're out of form?
It's not a foreign concept for these players to go through rough patches...
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Post by AlbertTatlock on Sept 14, 2024 14:59:46 GMT
I just don't think they have the raw physicality needed. Josh Laurent and Lewis Baker weren't exactly amazing but at least they had the tools for the job. An utterly ridiculous comment. It's not though, not on the performances we've seen from both Jun-Ho and Burger this season. Gouranga. |
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Post by stokerstayinup on Sept 14, 2024 15:00:32 GMT
Both poor today.Hoping in Junho's case it's because he's not fully fit,more worried about Burger,just doesn't seem on it.
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Sept 14, 2024 15:01:05 GMT
When we bought junho last season he'd just completed the Korean season, he played a full season for us then this summer he's played a few internationals. The lad has played non stop football for over 2 years....he's knackered.
Burger just doesn't look physically strong enough to last 90 minutes
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Post by chuckrocky on Sept 14, 2024 15:02:19 GMT
Hopefully we’ll get a good look at Seko on Tuesday because we desperately red someone with a bit of a quality and drive in midfield.
I honestly thought we’d found that with Burger but he looks a completely different player to the one from the first half of last season and he doesn’t warrant a place in the side at the moment.
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Post by chuckrocky on Sept 14, 2024 15:04:06 GMT
When we bought junho last season he'd just completed the Korean season, he played a full season for us then this summer he's played a few internationals. The lad has played non stop football for over 2 years....he's knackered. Burger just doesn't look physically strong enough to last 90 minutes He literally played about twenty minutes of international football over the summer, to suggest he’s knackered a month into the season as absolutely ludicrous. |
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Post by Rt Hon Reverend Luvpump on Sept 14, 2024 15:13:12 GMT
A bit harsh on Junho but Burger is definitely starting to become a concern. Junho did nowt today looked very light weight. |
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Post by Davef on Sept 14, 2024 15:16:22 GMT
Sell them both and not for a penny less than £50M.
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Post by sportsman on Sept 14, 2024 15:16:54 GMT
If someone is not doing it, don’t put up with it as a manager, drop them
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Post by clivey05 on Sept 14, 2024 15:39:31 GMT
Junho, looks well off it at the minute, can’t put a foot right. And Burger hasn’t had a good game since he came back from that 2 game ban towards the end of last season
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Post by Gary Hackett on Sept 14, 2024 15:41:53 GMT
It's mystifying what's wrong with these players or maybe they just weren't as good as we thought they were.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Sept 14, 2024 15:43:55 GMT
Any possibility they wanted to move and were refused permission?
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Post by cheadlepotter on Sept 14, 2024 15:46:34 GMT
Any possibility they wanted to move and were refused permission? Junho is playing like that, but it all goes against what Walters said in yesterday’s interview regarding the transfer window. |
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Post by stokecitydom on Sept 14, 2024 15:49:32 GMT
An utterly ridiculous comment. It's not though, not on the performances we've seen from both Jun-Ho and Burger this season. Gouranga. Yes it is. Baker and Laurent were major contributors in numerous bottom half finishes. Burger is a concern, but Junho has missed a good chunk of pre season, but comes off the back off a really strong second half of last season. |
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Post by wakeypotter on Sept 14, 2024 16:58:37 GMT
A bit harsh on Junho but Burger is definitely starting to become a concern. This is where we are at with some Stoke fans junho was every bit as bad as burger for some reason some fans have a b@?£r on for him. Don’t get it |
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Post by premieraj on Sept 14, 2024 17:33:57 GMT
It's mystifying what's wrong with these players or maybe they just weren't as good as we thought they were. This I just don’t understand why they have suddenly become so woeful? I really don’t as you say mystified. Junho last year would have controlled and buried that chance? |
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Post by Gods on Sept 14, 2024 17:34:45 GMT
I just don't think they have the raw physicality needed. Josh Laurent and Lewis Baker weren't exactly amazing but at least they had the tools for the job. An utterly ridiculous comment. I think Laurent and Baker are a better pair than Burger and Junho. At least they could be if they got their arses in gear. Burger is an ungainly beanpole of a man, Junho looks silky smooth but no bite and almost zero end product. We've taken a whoppa of a gamble, I only hope we know what we are doing. |
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Sept 14, 2024 17:41:41 GMT
When we bought junho last season he'd just completed the Korean season, he played a full season for us then this summer he's played a few internationals. The lad has played non stop football for over 2 years....he's knackered. Burger just doesn't look physically strong enough to last 90 minutes He literally played about twenty minutes of international football over the summer, to suggest he’s knackered a month into the season as absolutely ludicrous. Don't think it's ludicrous at all, he's played non stop for over 2 years. Maybe the summer break wasn't enough rest for him.. He may only have played 20 mins for s Korea as you say, but I'm sure he was there for the training camp running around and taking part in games and not relaxing which is probably what his body needs more than anything. |
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Post by hooftastic on Sept 14, 2024 17:50:43 GMT
Thought Burger was much better against Plymouth, and whilst crap today, wasn't the worst and not where the game was lost.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Sept 14, 2024 18:34:26 GMT
Thought Burger was much better against Plymouth, and whilst crap today, wasn't the worst and not where the game was lost. He was better than Juno who was by far the worst player on the pitch |
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Sept 14, 2024 18:39:25 GMT
Burgers best games were when he captained the team last season for a few games.
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