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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 26, 2024 12:19:53 GMT
They are just examples tbh and is what I’d want. Of course he might be different and have his own things and that’s fine. But you’ve got to set it out and then let others do it imo. Experience is overrated. The midfield on Saturday was packed with experience in Thompson and Laurent but they might as well not have been on the pitch. The problems stem from the set up. Players dont know what the hell they’re meant to be doing or are being asked things they can’t do. It’s rank bad management. Rather than experience I should have said leaders / strong characters. I think we miss a plan and physicality. We don’t need to be overly physical but we just don’t compete. Even with the players we have now I think we should be a lot better but they just need to play simple football. And we can only hope that Lawal will bring some physicality into the midfield. |
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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on Aug 26, 2024 13:04:45 GMT
Rather than experience I should have said leaders / strong characters. I think we miss a plan and physicality. We don’t need to be overly physical but we just don’t compete. Even with the players we have now I think we should be a lot better but they just need to play simple football. And we can only hope that Lawal will bring some physicality into the midfield. You look at Man City and bar Rodre they’re not overly physical. The reason we’re looking for physical players is because we keep losing the ball. If you have good technical players who move the ball about well (not just backwards) the need for physically lowers. If we had better players on the ball we wouldn’t need to be that physical. Our biggest issue is CM. We may have plenty of them but we need better quality. To many players in the squad who aren’t comfortable having the ball and can’t wait to get rid of it (backwards) You can afford one water carrier in the midfield but not 2. This is why Lawal is key moving forwards. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 26, 2024 13:07:08 GMT
I think we miss a plan and physicality. We don’t need to be overly physical but we just don’t compete. Even with the players we have now I think we should be a lot better but they just need to play simple football. And we can only hope that Lawal will bring some physicality into the midfield. You look at Man City and bar Rodre they’re not overly physical. The reason we’re looking for physical players is because we keep losing the ball. If you have good technical players who move the ball about well (not just backwards) the need for physically lowers. If we had better players on the ball we wouldn’t need to be that physical. Our biggest issue is CM. We may have plenty of them but we need better quality. To many players in the squad who aren’t comfortable having the ball and can’t wait to get rid of it (backwards) You can afford one water carrier in the midfield but not 2. This is why Lawal is key moving forwards. But they are a wonderful footballing side and can out football anyone. We’re in the Championship and get bullied. |
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Post by baconburger on Aug 26, 2024 13:22:32 GMT
You look at Man City and bar Rodre they’re not overly physical. The reason we’re looking for physical players is because we keep losing the ball. If you have good technical players who move the ball about well (not just backwards) the need for physically lowers. If we had better players on the ball we wouldn’t need to be that physical. Our biggest issue is CM. We may have plenty of them but we need better quality. To many players in the squad who aren’t comfortable having the ball and can’t wait to get rid of it (backwards) You can afford one water carrier in the midfield but not 2. This is why Lawal is key moving forwards. But they are a wonderful footballing side and can out football anyone. We’re in the Championship and get bullied. Didn't we go all through that physicality and combativeness not being a major issue in the championship under MON and it proved to be completely ridiculous?? |
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Post by thisisouryear on Aug 26, 2024 14:25:16 GMT
Not getting MON as director of football
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Post by spitthedog on Aug 26, 2024 15:40:51 GMT
I think we miss a plan and physicality. We don’t need to be overly physical but we just don’t compete. Even with the players we have now I think we should be a lot better but they just need to play simple football. And we can only hope that Lawal will bring some physicality into the midfield. You look at Man City and bar Rodre they’re not overly physical. The reason we’re looking for physical players is because we keep losing the ball. If you have good technical players who move the ball about well (not just backwards) the need for physically lowers. If we had better players on the ball we wouldn’t need to be that physical. Our biggest issue is CM. We may have plenty of them but we need better quality. To many players in the squad who aren’t comfortable having the ball and can’t wait to get rid of it (backwards) You can afford one water carrier in the midfield but not 2. This is why Lawal is key moving forwards. I dont think you can compare the level of football that Man City are playing to what we should and shouldn't be doing or what we need. It's a different sport. I completely agree about the lack of technical skills though. There is a basic requirement even for this level but barring that, you have be able to fight and compete. |
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Post by baconburger on Aug 26, 2024 15:44:39 GMT
Not getting MON as director of football What when we bought Walter’s in or RM. He would have been as big a disaster as anyone in conjunction with the manager/HC’s we had appointed. The views of the game and how to play it need to align. MON would need to work with a manager/HC who wants to play slow cautious walking football. It’s no good perming him with one who has a completely different ethos/mindset. |
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Post by thisisouryear on Aug 26, 2024 17:32:36 GMT
Not getting MON as director of football What when we bought Walter’s in or RM. He would have been as big a disaster as anyone in conjunction with the manager/HC’s we had appointed. The views of the game and how to play it need to align. MON would need to work with a manager/HC who wants to play slow cautious walking football. It’s no good perming him with one who has a completely different ethos/mindset. I just like MON, I think he was a brilliant manager and he brought a lot of talented players to the club on a shoestring, maybe a bit too early in their career for some but he knew how to get a solid team around him who had an eye for a player. I think he is a proper football man and intelligent enough to create a team behind the scenes that would easily complement any manager we had in place. The thing with MON is he isn't stupid |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 26, 2024 17:38:00 GMT
Not getting MON as director of football His transfers were generally terrible and by the time we left we needed to replace most of who he bought in. |
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Post by thisisouryear on Aug 26, 2024 17:43:17 GMT
Not getting MON as director of football His transfers were generally terrible and by the time we left we needed to replace most of who he bought in. I thought he was decent in the loan market, I can't remember all the players he signed but I thought there were some decent ones in there. He just didn't have the money to buy anyone |
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Post by smallthorner on Aug 26, 2024 17:46:39 GMT
Nothing.
We are were we are and deserve to be..
A bang average Championship Club.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 26, 2024 17:47:26 GMT
His transfers were generally terrible and by the time we left we needed to replace most of who he bought in. I thought he was decent in the loan market, I can't remember all the players he signed but I thought there were some decent ones in there. He just didn't have the money to buy anyone We got expensive loans and none of them did well. |
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Post by baconburger on Aug 26, 2024 17:49:45 GMT
What when we bought Walter’s in or RM. He would have been as big a disaster as anyone in conjunction with the manager/HC’s we had appointed. The views of the game and how to play it need to align. MON would need to work with a manager/HC who wants to play slow cautious walking football. It’s no good perming him with one who has a completely different ethos/mindset. I just like MON, I think he was a brilliant manager and he brought a lot of talented players to the club on a shoestring, maybe a bit too early in their career for some but he knew how to get a solid team around him who had an eye for a player. I think he is a proper football man and intelligent enough to create a team behind the scenes that would easily complement any manager we had in place. The thing with MON is he isn't stupid I don’t think he’s stupid but he certainly had some stupid ideas ie no need for physicality and combativeness in midfield in the championship. That said I think he did an enormous amount of good work at the club in very trying circumstances. He was the victim of what had come before him in many ways and his own overly cautious nature in others. I don’t see any way in this world that he could have worked with AN in any sort of positive relationship. Their thinking on the game would have been continually at odds. Unfortunately since then we’ve employed a TD with not much pedigree in the game and an SD with zero track record in any significant non playing capacity. It tells you that JC is very lax on his research and very susceptible to bullshit if you can get in the room with him. That’s what happens with populists we elected one as our PM and similar stories are rife about shopping trolleys. I’d much prefer someone who believes in something boring as it might be. |
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Post by independent on Aug 27, 2024 18:48:54 GMT
Not getting MON as director of football His transfers were generally terrible and by the time we left we needed to replace most of who he bought in. Amazing how he managed to get 60 points and 62 points with a horrific injury list, no money to spend and while he was halving the wage bill and avoiding a points deduction from FFP. Last season and this season should have been easy in comparison, with all our players out of contract (as MON planned) and money to spend. We are rapidly running out of excuses for our failure to improve. Our defence is totally shambolic and this seems to be going completely unnoticed. Our midfield is poor. Kounas is the only real bright spot and how long will we have him? |
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Post by kevkj on Aug 27, 2024 20:09:21 GMT
Players like Laurent,Thompson and Baker.
Whar a refreshing change to see players who could break forward and pass.
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Post by retrostoke on Aug 27, 2024 20:12:02 GMT
Moran is class? Based on what? His lack of anything today? Bosun - yes supposed to be. Time will tell Philips- based on what? Where has he looked good? Gallagher- will be? Based on his previous injury prone record? Time will judge. As it did with Cundle who most Stoke fans dismissed after one game. The lad is a good footballer. I’ll come back on this in about 6 games time. Let’s see how it unfolds. Didn’t need 6 games did it |
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Post by alsager58 on Aug 27, 2024 20:59:27 GMT
Nothing holding these lads back pleasure to watch
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Post by kjpt140v on Aug 27, 2024 21:21:32 GMT
Moran will be a big player for us. He is class. Bosun. Supposedly quality. Phillips. Looks a good one. Gallagher. He will do his bit. Bae and Ryan are coming back from injury. Then add in a new striker this week. The season hasn’t started yet Moran is class? Based on what? His lack of anything today? Bosun - yes supposed to be. Time will tell Philips- based on what? Where has he looked good? Gallagher- will be? Based on his previous injury prone record? Moran, Phillips and Bosun are all young players learning their trade. You cant judge a player afrer one or two games. Phillips looked very promising in the friendlies. Now is the time to encourage these players. Players of this age should never be criticised. |
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Post by jimigoodwinsbeard on Aug 28, 2024 2:44:56 GMT
Moran is class? Based on what? His lack of anything today? Bosun - yes supposed to be. Time will tell Philips- based on what? Where has he looked good? Gallagher- will be? Based on his previous injury prone record? Moran, Phillips and Bosun are all young players learning their trade. You cant judge a player afrer one or two games. Phillips looked very promising in the friendlies. Now is the time to encourage these players. Players of this age should never be criticised. Phillips looked good in the friendlies? What friendlies were these? |
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Post by kjpt140v on Aug 29, 2024 17:53:37 GMT
Moran, Phillips and Bosun are all young players learning their trade. You cant judge a player afrer one or two games. Phillips looked very promising in the friendlies. Now is the time to encourage these players. Players of this age should never be criticised. Phillips looked good in the friendlies? What friendlies were these? Apologies, I meant Dixon. |
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Post by baconburger on Aug 29, 2024 18:49:19 GMT
Fuckwittery.
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