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Post by silsdenstokie on Aug 30, 2024 22:26:27 GMT
Crazy fee
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Post by prestwichpotter on Aug 30, 2024 22:26:28 GMT
They've signed Tomoki Iwata on loan from Celtic as well, Japanese international decent player.....
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Post by Son of Sausage on Aug 30, 2024 22:28:37 GMT
Hope he does absolutely fucking shit for them now. HMS Piss the league hits an iceberg
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Post by chuckrocky on Aug 30, 2024 22:32:15 GMT
He’s a quality signing for that level but they’ve easily paid more than double what he’s worth just to make a statement.
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Post by stokiejoe89 on Aug 30, 2024 22:43:58 GMT
7 year contract...it's started in the EFL now.
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Post by maninasuitcase on Aug 30, 2024 22:57:41 GMT
Please please please if there is a God, let that fucking team fail and disappear of the face of the earth.
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Post by stokiejoe89 on Aug 30, 2024 22:58:40 GMT
Please please please if there is a God, let that fucking team fail and disappear of the face of the earth. Every team who beats them now is going to be rubbing extra salt in that 20 million wound. |
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Post by onionman on Aug 30, 2024 23:02:09 GMT
I'm not popular on here so I won't stay long but I will say, utterly ludicrous for a League One club. It actually makes a mockery and tbis is coming from someone who is broadly pro elements of FFP. No Club in or Relegated to League One have ever done tbis before. Ipswich were heading that way but their backdrop was of austerity which can feed in, they had a Pre Tax Loss of £18mish in Promotion Season.. The funny thing is the Rules have been updated again this Summer,the EFL Handbook shows the updates to Championship P&S/FFP. Clubs entering the division from either end have to submit varied types of info to the League by 30th June, ie the 30th June as the new Season approaches. Interesting to see how Birmingham square that circle. Birmingham lost Pre Tax-£25m and -£25m in 2021-22 and 2022-23, so no evidence of Austerity feeding in? Nailed it mate (although have to admit I only read the first five words of your post). |
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Post by stokiejoe89 on Aug 30, 2024 23:05:14 GMT
I'm not popular on here so I won't stay long but I will say, utterly ludicrous for a League One club. It actually makes a mockery and tbis is coming from someone who is broadly pro elements of FFP. No Club in or Relegated to League One have ever done tbis before. Ipswich were heading that way but their backdrop was of austerity which can feed in, they had a Pre Tax Loss of £18mish in Promotion Season.. The funny thing is the Rules have been updated again this Summer,the EFL Handbook shows the updates to Championship P&S/FFP. Clubs entering the division from either end have to submit varied types of info to the League by 30th June, ie the 30th June as the new Season approaches. Interesting to see how Birmingham square that circle. Birmingham lost Pre Tax-£25m and -£25m in 2021-22 and 2022-23, so no evidence of Austerity feeding in? It's okay we can all bond over laughing when Birmingham don't get promoted. I can't decide if it would be more funny for them to miss the playoffs or to make the play offs and lose on pens with Stansfield missing the crucial pen 🤔 |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Aug 30, 2024 23:10:54 GMT
7 year contract....
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Aug 30, 2024 23:46:19 GMT
Bit dodgy this one to say the least. There’s no way if the worst happens they can sell him for more than they’ve paid
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Post by chrispk on Aug 31, 2024 0:25:45 GMT
I can't decide if it would be more funny for them 1) to miss the playoffs OR 2)to make the play offs and lose on pens with Stansfield missing the crucial pen in the final 🤔 Number 2 please |
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Post by thornestein on Aug 31, 2024 6:11:33 GMT
this just takes the piss out of ffp
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 31, 2024 6:27:42 GMT
Still can't believe this one. They've literally paid a £10m "make a splash" premium.
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Post by thisisouryear on Aug 31, 2024 6:42:53 GMT
I've just watched the goals of both Stansfield and Cannon and I will say it now Cannon is a far better striker than Stansfield. Stansfield scored a few but he doesn't look that natural to me, Cannon seems to have a lot more about him, a nice touch, he can turn, he can create space for himself and he seems a lot more composed when he strikes the ball.
Stansfield must show a lot more in training, I don't think he seems that special a lot of his shots where a striker would probably go across the keeper he put his boot through high into the near post or middle of the goal. You won't get away with that type of finishing forever. We will see how good he is this season but by the goals I saw I would be hoping to see more quality in his finishing for that sort of money
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 31, 2024 6:47:19 GMT
I've just watched the goals of both Stansfield and Cannon and I will say it now Cannon is a far better striker than Stansfield. Stansfield scored a few but he doesn't look that natural to me, Cannon seems to have a lot more about him, a nice touch, he can turn, he can create space for himself and he seems a lot more composed when he strikes the ball. Stansfield must show a lot more in training, I don't think he seems that special a lot of his shots where a striker would probably go across the keeper he put his boot through high into the near post or middle of the goal. You won't get away with that type of finishing forever. We will see how good he is this season but by the goals I saw I would be hoping to see more quality in his finishing for that sort of money Neither have done anything to be worth over 2m. Yet clubs get suckered into some sort of hype train over not very much. Cannon has half a season. Stansfield has one season where only scored 12 and the side he played in got relegated. Jacob Brown did more. And he’s not very good. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2024 6:56:40 GMT
I'd like to see the paperwork at Fulham's end. Squiggly lines and dodgy writing everywhere with champagne spills no doubt.
"Open another bottle of bubbly, Barb, we're getting 20M for Jay Stansfield..."
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Post by pretzel on Aug 31, 2024 7:05:24 GMT
I can't decide if it would be more funny for them 1) to miss the playoffs OR 2)to make the play offs and lose on pens with Stansfield missing the crucial pen in the final 🤔 Number 2 please What about a third scenario where they get deducted points, have loads of injuries and suspensions, and end up getting relegated |
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Post by thisisouryear on Aug 31, 2024 7:05:30 GMT
I've just watched the goals of both Stansfield and Cannon and I will say it now Cannon is a far better striker than Stansfield. Stansfield scored a few but he doesn't look that natural to me, Cannon seems to have a lot more about him, a nice touch, he can turn, he can create space for himself and he seems a lot more composed when he strikes the ball. Stansfield must show a lot more in training, I don't think he seems that special a lot of his shots where a striker would probably go across the keeper he put his boot through high into the near post or middle of the goal. You won't get away with that type of finishing forever. We will see how good he is this season but by the goals I saw I would be hoping to see more quality in his finishing for that sort of money Neither have done anything to be worth over 2m. Yet clubs get suckered into some sort of hype train over not very much. Cannon has half a season. Stansfield has one season where only scored 12 and the side he played in got relegated. Jacob Brown did more. And he’s not very good. The pressure is on Stansfield to back it up this season albeit in an easier division. Fulham have had their pants down with that fee, he may well improve but I don't think he will get much better, you can't teach someone to be a natural finisher he just looks an ok finisher from what I've seen. Cannon at least looks more like a natural striker. Jacob Brown is probably better than Stansfield to be fair, I would say that Cannon is better than Brown, we will see if he is better in other departments over the season other than Infront of goal. Cannon has a lot more to him in terms of movement, touch and his ability to move away from a defender in a tight area to creat some space to get a shot away. I'm expecting him to be decent, Cannon looks decent. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 31, 2024 7:08:34 GMT
Neither have done anything to be worth over 2m. Yet clubs get suckered into some sort of hype train over not very much. Cannon has half a season. Stansfield has one season where only scored 12 and the side he played in got relegated. Jacob Brown did more. And he’s not very good. The pressure is on Stansfield to back it up this season albeit in an easier division. Fulham have had their pants down with that fee, he may well improve but I don't think he will get much better, you can't teach someone to be a natural finisher he just looks an ok finisher from what I've seen. Cannon at least looks more like a natural striker. Jacob Brown is probably better than Stansfield to be fair, I would say that Cannon is better than Brown, we will see if he is better in other departments over the season other than Infront of goal. Cannon has a lot more to him in terms of movement, touch and his ability to move away from a defender in a tight area to creat some space to get a shot away. I'm expecting him to be decent, Cannon looks decent. Cannon has done nothing to have this confidence about him bar sign for us 🤣 I hope you’re right but his form and chances since injury are lacking and that worries the crap out of me with our history. Stansfield will bag 20 this season easy I reckon. As he should in that league and I think anything less than 18 is failure. I’ll be over the moon if Cannon can get 10. |
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Post by thisisouryear on Aug 31, 2024 7:09:52 GMT
What about a third scenario where they get deducted points, have loads of injuries and suspensions, and end up getting relegated It would be great if Stanfield becomes the poster boy and it upsets the rest of the squad and they sink further. He's basically their star boy now on a likely far higher wage than everyone else. It could potentially piss players off he doesn't deliver the level of performance his teammates will rightly expect |
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Post by lordb on Aug 31, 2024 7:17:16 GMT
He’s a quality signing for that level but they’ve easily paid more than double what he’s worth just to make a statement. Not sure they have Delap £15m rising to £20m Archer £15m+ Market has moved on this summer for young strikers Even the only a bit handy Conway went for £5m and Stansfield is miles better than him Not seen much incoming re strikers from abroad either which suggests that asking price for them has gone up too The idea that you can go get a goalscorer for £2m or even double that is pretty much dead now Loans or pay the big money |
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Post by lordb on Aug 31, 2024 7:17:59 GMT
The pressure is on Stansfield to back it up this season albeit in an easier division. Fulham have had their pants down with that fee, he may well improve but I don't think he will get much better, you can't teach someone to be a natural finisher he just looks an ok finisher from what I've seen. Cannon at least looks more like a natural striker. Jacob Brown is probably better than Stansfield to be fair, I would say that Cannon is better than Brown, we will see if he is better in other departments over the season other than Infront of goal. Cannon has a lot more to him in terms of movement, touch and his ability to move away from a defender in a tight area to creat some space to get a shot away. I'm expecting him to be decent, Cannon looks decent. Cannon has done nothing to have this confidence about him bar sign for us 🤣 I hope you’re right but his form and chances since injury are lacking and that worries the crap out of me with our history. Stansfield will bag 20 this season easy I reckon. As he should in that league and I think anything less than 18 is failure. I’ll be over the moon if Cannon can get 10. Be disappointed if he only gets 10 |
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Post by thisisouryear on Aug 31, 2024 7:18:15 GMT
The pressure is on Stansfield to back it up this season albeit in an easier division. Fulham have had their pants down with that fee, he may well improve but I don't think he will get much better, you can't teach someone to be a natural finisher he just looks an ok finisher from what I've seen. Cannon at least looks more like a natural striker. Jacob Brown is probably better than Stansfield to be fair, I would say that Cannon is better than Brown, we will see if he is better in other departments over the season other than Infront of goal. Cannon has a lot more to him in terms of movement, touch and his ability to move away from a defender in a tight area to creat some space to get a shot away. I'm expecting him to be decent, Cannon looks decent. Cannon has done nothing to have this confidence about him bar sign for us 🤣 I hope you’re right but his form and chances since injury are lacking and that worries the crap out of me with our history. Stansfield will bag 20 this season easy I reckon. As he should in that league and I think anything less than 18 is failure. I’ll be over the moon if Cannon can get 10. I'm not saying he will deliver but you can see by his goals that he has the ability to be a decent Championship/bottom of prem player, I don't see that in Stanfield's finishing. He just looks like an ok Championship player at best. Birmingham should romp that league so less than 20 goals will be a failure given the number of games. 15 and below would be average but that would depend on how many assists he got. If his overall contribution is high then i suppose it's good enough. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 31, 2024 7:21:48 GMT
Cannon has done nothing to have this confidence about him bar sign for us 🤣 I hope you’re right but his form and chances since injury are lacking and that worries the crap out of me with our history. Stansfield will bag 20 this season easy I reckon. As he should in that league and I think anything less than 18 is failure. I’ll be over the moon if Cannon can get 10. I'm not saying he will deliver but you can see by his goals that he has the ability to be a decent Championship/bottom of prem player, I don't see that in Stanfield's finishing. He just looks like an ok Championship player at best. Birmingham should romp that league so less than 20 goals will be a failure given the number of games. 15 and below would be average but that would depend on how many assists he got. If his overall contribution is high then i suppose it's good enough. I don’t think half a season is enough to show anything tbh. It shows he has the potential to it but I’ve seen him described as a proven striker. He’s got 10 league goals and only ever done it consistently for half a season. That’s not proven. I think he was one of the better options available too but I think he’s got a lot to prove and that isn’t a bad thing. |
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Aug 31, 2024 7:23:34 GMT
Bottom line is, they're in League one.
Koumas and Cannon is great business for us. There's 15-20 goals there between them for me, possibly more
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Post by thisisouryear on Aug 31, 2024 7:24:27 GMT
Cannon has done nothing to have this confidence about him bar sign for us 🤣 I hope you’re right but his form and chances since injury are lacking and that worries the crap out of me with our history. Stansfield will bag 20 this season easy I reckon. As he should in that league and I think anything less than 18 is failure. I’ll be over the moon if Cannon can get 10. Be disappointed if he only gets 10 It comes down to how well the team behind him plays, if we play well and he is getting chances then we rightfully should expect more than 10 but until we see more from performances then 10 is a fair target to start with. |
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Post by GeneralFaye on Aug 31, 2024 7:24:41 GMT
I'm finding it hilarious reading all the Birmingham fans justifications for the spending spree. One even told me they'd have spent this if they stayed up last season.. I mean, a hefty points deduction would've come their way so I guess he's right 🤷🏻♂️
I hope they fail.
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Post by bertiestan on Aug 31, 2024 7:33:50 GMT
I couldn’t give a shit about brum or Stansfield tbf🔴⚪️
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Aug 31, 2024 7:34:55 GMT
I've just watched the goals of both Stansfield and Cannon and I will say it now Cannon is a far better striker than Stansfield. Stansfield scored a few but he doesn't look that natural to me, Cannon seems to have a lot more about him, a nice touch, he can turn, he can create space for himself and he seems a lot more composed when he strikes the ball. Stansfield must show a lot more in training, I don't think he seems that special a lot of his shots where a striker would probably go across the keeper he put his boot through high into the near post or middle of the goal. You won't get away with that type of finishing forever. We will see how good he is this season but by the goals I saw I would be hoping to see more quality in his finishing for that sort of money Neither have done anything to be worth over 2m. Yet clubs get suckered into some sort of hype train over not very much. Cannon has half a season. Stansfield has one season where only scored 12 and the side he played in got relegated. Jacob Brown did more. And he’s not very good. You oddly don't set the bar for what a player is worth, no matter how much you repeat yourself |
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