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Post by 4doorsaloon on Oct 13, 2024 6:58:03 GMT
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Post by ravey123 on Oct 13, 2024 7:23:48 GMT
If he was doing well until Jan you would gave thought stoke could match anything west brom can offer |
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Post by Gabrielzakuaniandjuliet on Oct 13, 2024 7:26:56 GMT
Last January felt like a real turning point for how teams use the loan market. Plymouth lost two of their best players, as a quick example. Any of the loan signings could be relocated in January without a good reason. It makes that market much less appealing, sadly! |
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Post by lordb on Oct 13, 2024 7:27:58 GMT
If he was doing well until Jan you would gave thought stoke could match anything west brom can offer Would depend on respective clubs FFP situations Or it may simply be loan cancelled and loaned to Albion That happened with a few loans last January eg Cundle at Plymouth |
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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on Oct 13, 2024 7:30:19 GMT
If he was doing well until Jan you would gave thought stoke could match anything west brom can offer Would depend on respective clubs FFP situations Or it may simply be loan cancelled and loaned to Albion That happened with a few loans last January eg Cundle at Plymouth I guess we could do the same with other players too. Don’t the Baggies have some sort of embargo still? Come Jan anything can happen. |
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Post by lordb on Oct 13, 2024 7:30:58 GMT
Would depend on respective clubs FFP situations Or it may simply be loan cancelled and loaned to Albion That happened with a few loans last January eg Cundle at Plymouth I guess we could do the same with other players too. Don’t the Baggies have some sort of embargo still? Come Jan anything can happen. This is true works both ways |
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Post by Clayton Wood on Oct 13, 2024 8:31:55 GMT
Not seen enough yet to say he's a £10m player for my money. But it's not my money but JC's, so who knows?
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Post by retrostoke on Oct 13, 2024 9:49:47 GMT
West Brom won’t look so appealing at Christmas when we are above them in the table.
And by then Leicester are going to laugh at a £10m bid
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Post by baconburger on Oct 13, 2024 10:36:23 GMT
Bullshit news any player that’s on loan could have their loan ended for a permanent move or an alternative loan it’s a scaremongering non story. If we think he’s worth it I’m sure we could compete for his signature. We spent next to nothing in the Summer.
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Post by bagnallboothen on Oct 13, 2024 10:38:27 GMT
Bullshit news any player that’s on loan could have their loan ended for a permanent move or an alternative loan it’s a scaremongering non story. If we think he’s worth it I’m sure we could compete for his signature. We spent next to nothing in the Summer. How did we sign Luke Cundle? How did we pay for the players we signed in the summer? |
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Post by midtempo on Oct 13, 2024 11:44:57 GMT
My Understanding is WBA are not is in an actual transfer embargo but have to agree all transfer and wage fees with the EFL to ensure they do not breach any profit and sustainability restrictions
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Post by etebojan on Oct 13, 2024 12:02:53 GMT
I think we just need to convert the deal into a loan with obligation to buy in January think he’s proved in one game that he’s worth throwing some money at
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Post by LphPotter on Oct 13, 2024 12:15:56 GMT
I think we just need to convert the deal into a loan with obligation to buy in January think he’s proved in one game that he’s worth throwing some money at You don’t spend 10 million plus on one game. I think he’ll score plenty for us this season but one game isn’t enough to spend that money at the moment |
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Post by figo85 on Oct 13, 2024 12:40:09 GMT
I think we just need to convert the deal into a loan with obligation to buy in January think he’s proved in one game that he’s worth throwing some money at He has also shown in 2 or 3 others that he isn’t, not just yet. |
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Post by thornestein on Oct 13, 2024 12:52:06 GMT
I think we just need to convert the deal into a loan with obligation to buy in January think he’s proved in one game that he’s worth throwing some money at You don’t spend 10 million plus on one game. I think he’ll score plenty for us this season but one game isn’t enough to spend that money at the moment can’t see us spending 10 mil on one player anyway , we didn’t get near that on all the summer purchases |
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Post by callas12 on Oct 13, 2024 18:56:32 GMT
I suppose at least we've got Cannon in the building right now & you'd have thought would have some kind of inside knowledge or say on what's likely to happen, and perhaps more importantly where his heads at with regards to long term plans he has, or thinks Leicester would have for him going forwards.
Quite possible if he is plucked back by The Foxes in January a lower league Premier League team may show an interest in him, albeit Leicester may not be keen on loaning/selling to a lower league Prem competitor to Leicester.
Guess alot could also hinge on how Stoke are fairing over the Christmas period as to whether Cannons preference would be to remain at Stoke going forwards, or even if we're happy to extend his stay beyond that if Leicester start playing hard ball.
Still alot of what ifs and maybes to cut through before we arrive at that point but hopefully the decision makers behind the scenes at Stoke can get us prepared for any eventuality,come what may.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Oct 13, 2024 19:07:02 GMT
I suppose at least we've got Cannon in the building right now & you'd have thought would have some kind of inside knowledge or say on what's likely to happen, and perhaps more importantly where his heads at with regards to long term plans he has, or thinks Leicester would have for him going forwards. Quite possible if he is plucked back by The Foxes in January a lower league Premier League team may show an interest in him, albeit Leicester may not be keen on loaning/selling to a lower league Prem competitor to Leicester. Guess alot could also hinge on how Stoke are fairing over the Christmas period as to whether Cannons preference would be to remain at Stoke going forwards, or even if we're happy to extend his stay beyond that if Leicester start playing hard ball. Still alot of what ifs and maybes to cut through before we arrive at that point but hopefully the decision makers behind the scenes at Stoke can get us prepared for any eventuality,come what may. Another reason why the Gallagher injury is such bad news we don’t need to be down near the bottom with a frustrated cannon at the end of Dec but I fear that’s the likely picture |
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Post by baconburger on Oct 13, 2024 20:21:46 GMT
Bullshit news any player that’s on loan could have their loan ended for a permanent move or an alternative loan it’s a scaremongering non story. If we think he’s worth it I’m sure we could compete for his signature. We spent next to nothing in the Summer. How did we sign Luke Cundle? How did we pay for the players we signed in the summer? We signed Cundle by negotiating a loan with Wolves as I said any player on loan can still have that loan ended to be permanently transferred or loaned elsewhere. Only Premier league to Premier league do they have to be for a full season with no recall for any reason. We paid what we needed to to sign the players we signed in the Summer but our net spend was low. There should be money to compete for transfers against most championship clubs provided JC is willing to spend as much as FFP allows as he's said he is many times. For there not to be the FFP headroom would make a nonsense of the accounts over the last 3 years. |
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Post by baconburger on Oct 13, 2024 20:27:23 GMT
My Understanding is WBA are not is in an actual transfer embargo but have to agree all transfer and wage fees with the EFL to ensure they do not breach any profit and sustainability restrictions That's correct they're on an imposed business plan so they have to have express permission from the EFL to sign players. This is not as restrictive as it might seem if you have saleable assets. As we saw over the Summer they can sell for more money than they buy for yet still field a strong team. |
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Oct 13, 2024 20:44:47 GMT
My answer to that is........ Meh!!!
He was lethal in the Portsmouth game, then came the Swansea game, and in the 2nd half when he was clean through, for a split second before he hit the ball, I thought, I'd put my house on him scoring here..... Then he recaptured his Fleetwood touch!!!
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Post by elystokie on Oct 13, 2024 22:34:39 GMT
I suppose at least we've got Cannon in the building right now & you'd have thought would have some kind of inside knowledge or say on what's likely to happen, and perhaps more importantly where his heads at with regards to long term plans he has, or thinks Leicester would have for him going forwards. Quite possible if he is plucked back by The Foxes in January a lower league Premier League team may show an interest in him, albeit Leicester may not be keen on loaning/selling to a lower league Prem competitor to Leicester. Guess alot could also hinge on how Stoke are fairing over the Christmas period as to whether Cannons preference would be to remain at Stoke going forwards, or even if we're happy to extend his stay beyond that if Leicester start playing hard ball. Still alot of what ifs and maybes to cut through before we arrive at that point but hopefully the decision makers behind the scenes at Stoke can get us prepared for any eventuality,come what may. Another reason why the Gallagher injury is such bad news we don’t need to be down near the bottom with a frustrated cannon at the end of Dec but I fear that’s the likely picture Will the gravity croc be making a comeback 🤔 |
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Post by callas12 on Oct 13, 2024 23:01:39 GMT
How did we sign Luke Cundle? How did we pay for the players we signed in the summer? We signed Cundle by negotiating a loan with Wolves as I said any player on loan can still have that loan ended to be permanently transferred or loaned elsewhere. Only Premier league to Premier league do they have to be for a full season with no recall for any reason. We paid what we needed to to sign the players we signed in the Summer but our net spend was low. There should be money to compete for transfers against most championship clubs provided JC is willing to spend as much as FFP allows as he's said he is many times. For there not to be the FFP headroom would make a nonsense of the accounts over the last 3 years. Bit like when Man City had Liam Delap back off us and he was catapulted straight up to PNE. Guessing that was a combination of Stoke, Delap & Man City agreeing to that loan coming to an end. |
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Post by jeycov on Oct 14, 2024 6:59:09 GMT
I suppose at least we've got Cannon in the building right now & you'd have thought would have some kind of inside knowledge or say on what's likely to happen, and perhaps more importantly where his heads at with regards to long term plans he has, or thinks Leicester would have for him going forwards. Quite possible if he is plucked back by The Foxes in January a lower league Premier League team may show an interest in him, albeit Leicester may not be keen on loaning/selling to a lower league Prem competitor to Leicester. Guess alot could also hinge on how Stoke are fairing over the Christmas period as to whether Cannons preference would be to remain at Stoke going forwards, or even if we're happy to extend his stay beyond that if Leicester start playing hard ball. Still alot of what ifs and maybes to cut through before we arrive at that point but hopefully the decision makers behind the scenes at Stoke can get us prepared for any eventuality,come what may. Some rumours ( Sentinel) that Leicester may recall him at Christmas and he’ll be sold £10 million? rather than loaned Serous consideration as to whether to buy him? |
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Oct 14, 2024 8:17:32 GMT
Another reason why the Gallagher injury is such bad news we don’t need to be down near the bottom with a frustrated cannon at the end of Dec but I fear that’s the likely picture Will the gravity croc be making a comeback 🤔 He’s around for sure the Gallagher in jury has a big effect on Cannon no doubt |
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Post by gingerninja on Oct 14, 2024 8:24:45 GMT
He certainly isn't worth £10 million that's for sure. He has had one game when everything he hit went in, apart from that he has shown very little to get excited about.
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Post by essexstokey on Oct 14, 2024 8:47:09 GMT
Who knows Stoke might have already agreed to buy in Jan for 10 million if all went well when loan was agreed with player and club
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Post by gogogadget on Oct 14, 2024 9:16:02 GMT
Will the gravity croc be making a comeback 🤔 He’s around for sure the Gallagher in jury has a big effect on Cannon no doubt Do we know if it was cramp in the last game or was it more serious? |
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Post by bagnallboothen on Oct 14, 2024 9:26:19 GMT
He’s around for sure the Gallagher in jury has a big effect on Cannon no doubt Do we know if it was cramp in the last game or was it more serious? As on another thread, he's done his hamstring |
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Post by xchpotter on Oct 14, 2024 9:27:29 GMT
He’s around for sure the Gallagher in jury has a big effect on Cannon no doubt Do we know if it was cramp in the last game or was it more serious? Only what someone said earlier….they say they have a good source and it’s hamstring. Nothing official from the club. Hope for the best, fear the worst. |
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Post by LGH87 on Oct 14, 2024 10:55:12 GMT
He certainly isn't worth £10 million that's for sure. He has had one game when everything he hit went in, apart from that he has shown very little to get excited about. They signed him for £7m and he's not done anything since to make his fee go up. Football is fucked if a player can sit on his arse for 12 months, score 4 in one game on loan and have their value go up. |
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