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Post by smithypotter on Sept 28, 2024 16:38:25 GMT
Is he actually even match fit? or are we shoehorning him into the team to try and prove a point?
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Post by jzime on Sept 28, 2024 16:41:06 GMT
Potential to be the worst loan signing in the history of the club Nothing will ever be worse than selling Arnie for £20m and trying to replace him with Jesé Rodríguez on loan after spunking his fee on Wimmer. |
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Post by wearepremierleague on Sept 28, 2024 16:41:40 GMT
He’s crap
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Sept 28, 2024 16:47:26 GMT
Must be on about ten grand-a-touch so far across three games.
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Post by mtrstudent on Sept 28, 2024 17:59:23 GMT
How can anyone tell how good he is, the ball has been nowhere near him, he makes runs and nothing happens, there's not a lot he can do, he must be massively regretting agreeing to come here. Good strikers make things happen and create from nothing. Koumas did that first time we played him central but we were actually in their half. With today I just can't blame Cannon. If he drops back deep into our half you're just compressing the whole team and making things worse. The coach has to work things out to use him. |
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Post by shakermaker on Sept 28, 2024 18:06:36 GMT
How can anyone tell how good he is, the ball has been nowhere near him, he makes runs and nothing happens, there's not a lot he can do, he must be massively regretting agreeing to come here. I feel so sorry for him. He needs the support. We know from his short stay at Preston he can score goals if you get the wingers close to him. It's blatantly obvious from the past few games he cannot operate as a lone forward. The tactics we played today rendered him utterly useless. |
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Post by xchpotter on Sept 28, 2024 18:33:24 GMT
Looks like we’ve screwed up again 😂😂
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Post by bassmaster on Sept 28, 2024 19:40:35 GMT
We were fucking abject going forward. If I was him, I’d want out ASAP.
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Post by claytonscrubs on Sept 28, 2024 19:56:32 GMT
Apparently, half the Championship wanted to sign him 🤨
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Post by lordb on Sept 28, 2024 20:28:52 GMT
Apparently, half the Championship wanted to sign him 🤨 15 clubs |
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Post by claytonscrubs on Sept 28, 2024 21:01:50 GMT
Apparently, half the Championship wanted to sign him 🤨 15 clubs Just under two-thirds then 😮🙂 |
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Sept 28, 2024 21:04:02 GMT
For Tom Canon see Liam Delap, he’ll be good in a couple of seasons
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Post by Bagwash on Sept 28, 2024 23:13:20 GMT
Any striker who we are interested in shouldn't touch us with a barge pole.
We are a graveyard for forwards.
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Post by robstokie on Sept 28, 2024 23:48:50 GMT
We were fucking abject going forward. If I was him, I’d want out ASAP. I think Haaland would struggle to score goals in this side given the lack of service we give our frontmen. And, for a forward like Cannon, who naturally plays off the shoulder of the last man, being in this side is the kiss of death. And bringing him off at half time when there's players in this side far more culpable for today's collapse isn't going to do his mindset wonders either. Radical thought time... now bear with me on this one... If, and only if, we started threading balls in behind for him to run onto, or even balls to feet in the attacking third then maybe, just maybe, he might score the odd goal. The truth of the matter is that strikers, especially poacher types, are only ever going to be as good as the service they receive from those around them. |
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Post by Sfance on Sept 28, 2024 23:51:53 GMT
Wardrobe Mk.2
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Post by mrnovember on Sept 29, 2024 6:43:23 GMT
Might as well play Ennis. At least he gives defenders something to think about. Granted, that something is "I wish this useless tosser with the touch of a BBC presenter would stop running around so much" but still...
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Post by sportsman on Sept 29, 2024 6:48:35 GMT
For Tom Canon see Liam Delap, he’ll be good in a couple of seasons But we were told by the know alls on here he is Haaland and we must sign him at all costs? Didn’t see it yesterday but my guess is like the managers. We won’t score if we don’t get the ball forward and into the right areas. Let’s hope they work on it and get it going on Wednesday |
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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on Sept 29, 2024 7:22:58 GMT
I think the problem with us is we try and be smart / clever by going for all potential rather than proven players particularly up front.
The problem with potential is they’re far less consistent.
Gallagher if he can keep fit is a far better signing than Cannon.
He’s played loads of games in the championship and he’s half decent.
He’s not a great goalscorer numbers wise but you could see when he came on he was up for the battle unlike the younger players who’d chucked the towel in after going one down.
If we’d got some experience in the middle too then we wouldn’t be in the mess we’re in now.
Nothing wrong with having exciting young players but there has to be a balance and you have to have to experience in to manage them and get their heads up when things aren’t going well.
Problem with us is that the 2 decent experienced players we have are crocks and our 2 experienced players currently in the side (particularly Thompson) are sub standard and can’t dictate a game.
I just hope that by Jan it’s not too late to bring some character in.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Sept 29, 2024 9:01:59 GMT
I think the problem with us is we try and be smart / clever by going for all potential rather than proven players particularly up front. The problem with potential is they’re far less consistent. Gallagher if he can keep fit is a far better signing than Cannon. He’s played loads of games in the championship and he’s half decent. He’s not a great goalscorer numbers wise but you could see when he came on he was up for the battle unlike the younger players who’d chucked the towel in after going one down. If we’d got some experience in the middle too then we wouldn’t be in the mess we’re in now. Nothing wrong with having exciting young players but there has to be a balance and you have to have to experience in to manage them and get their heads up when things aren’t going well. Problem with us is that the 2 decent experienced players we have are crocks and our 2 experienced players currently in the side (particularly Thompson) are sub standard and can’t dictate a game. I just hope that by Jan it’s not too late to bring some character in. Agree we desperately mdssied Laurent yesterday again like it or not , Narcis needs to try Gallagher and Cannon together but he wont and its why he will perish very quickly falling on his tippy tippy sword . We need better balance the youngsters are just going under in the waves |
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Post by biglad180 on Sept 29, 2024 9:44:40 GMT
lets be honest here 95 if not 100 per cent of our fanbase wanted him so after 3 games he as become shit, we do have owners who do put there money in the club but have no idea how to make it successfully run club, but for fans to say he Cannon is shit after 3 games just ask yourselfs this were you happy when we signed him
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Post by stokesupporter on Sept 29, 2024 9:55:53 GMT
Those Youtube videos are dangerous. They create a mass hysteria of "we have to sign this guy, he's great" even though most of us really haven't seen him play a full match. This is not the first and not the last example of it.
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Post by a on Sept 29, 2024 9:59:18 GMT
For Tom Canon see Liam Delap, he’ll be good in a couple of seasons But we were told by the know alls on here he is Haaland and we must sign him at all costs? Didn’t see it yesterday but my guess is like the managers. We won’t score if we don’t get the ball forward and into the right areas. Let’s hope they work on it and get it going on Wednesday He scored goals at Preston and those 20 odd games makes him worthy of spending the window courting him. We really should’ve gone for someone with actual pedigree (to reuse that term). To be fair to him we are so toothless he might be good, but he’s playing amongst dross. |
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Post by pushon on Sept 29, 2024 10:04:02 GMT
I think the problem with us is we try and be smart / clever by going for all potential rather than proven players particularly up front. The problem with potential is they’re far less consistent. Gallagher if he can keep fit is a far better signing than Cannon. He’s played loads of games in the championship and he’s half decent. He’s not a great goalscorer numbers wise but you could see when he came on he was up for the battle unlike the younger players who’d chucked the towel in after going one down. If we’d got some experience in the middle too then we wouldn’t be in the mess we’re in now. Nothing wrong with having exciting young players but there has to be a balance and you have to have to experience in to manage them and get their heads up when things aren’t going well. Problem with us is that the 2 decent experienced players we have are crocks and our 2 experienced players currently in the side (particularly Thompson) are sub standard and can’t dictate a game. I just hope that by Jan it’s not too late to bring some character in. Agree we desperately mdssied Laurent yesterday again like it or not , Narcis needs to try Gallagher and Cannon together but he wont and its why he will perish very quickly falling on his tippy tippy sword . We need better balance the youngsters are just going under in the waves Who would you leave out..Junho? |
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Post by Edward Tattsyrup on Sept 29, 2024 10:17:29 GMT
Cannon is at his best when the ball is released quickly behind a high line so he's facing goal. Again, as with Liam Delap we've bought a striker in and are not playing to his strengths 🤷
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Post by shakermaker on Sept 29, 2024 10:20:54 GMT
But we were told by the know alls on here he is Haaland and we must sign him at all costs? Didn’t see it yesterday but my guess is like the managers. We won’t score if we don’t get the ball forward and into the right areas. Let’s hope they work on it and get it going on Wednesday He scored goals at Preston and those 20 odd games makes him worthy of spending the window courting him. We really should’ve gone for someone with actual pedigree (to reuse that term). To be fair to him we are so toothless he might be good, but he’s playing amongst dross. Strikers with "pedigree" are either playing for the six best teams in the Championship, or already in the Premier League. |
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Post by a on Sept 29, 2024 10:25:00 GMT
He scored goals at Preston and those 20 odd games makes him worthy of spending the window courting him. We really should’ve gone for someone with actual pedigree (to reuse that term). To be fair to him we are so toothless he might be good, but he’s playing amongst dross. Strikers with "pedigree" are either playing for the six best teams in the Championship, or already in the Premier League. It’s a balance of the right age but experience or you get lucky with young players on loan from a big club. We hit the post with Delap and missed the goal with Gayle. There were other mistakes too like Afobe and Vokes. Fletcher was just too old to cut it over the season but was arguably a better acquisition than the rest. |
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Post by shakermaker on Sept 29, 2024 11:06:19 GMT
Strikers with "pedigree" are either playing for the six best teams in the Championship, or already in the Premier League. It’s a balance of the right age but experience or you get lucky with young players on loan from a big club. We hit the post with Delap and missed the goal with Gayle. There were other mistakes too like Afobe and Vokes. Fletcher was just too old to cut it over the season but was arguably a better acquisition than the rest. There is probably some acquired skill in identifying which youngsters from a Premier League's U21 squad can cut it in the Championship. Scoring goals in U21/U23 leagues is nothing like the cut and thrust of the big boy's league, as Delap proved for us (who I'm still surprised commanded a £20M fee as he did better for Hull without pulling up any trees). Preston either took a chance on Cannon or they had a very good scout who figured out he could be useful in their first-team setup. Either way, I personally would prefer to pluck someone from League One or Two... players who have proven themselves with a regular run of time playing proper men's football. |
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Sept 29, 2024 12:10:55 GMT
Agree we desperately mdssied Laurent yesterday again like it or not , Narcis needs to try Gallagher and Cannon together but he wont and its why he will perish very quickly falling on his tippy tippy sword . We need better balance the youngsters are just going under in the waves Who would you leave out..Junho? Absolutely hed have ben on the bench all season for me he has zero end product and woeful as we were were in both games the 2 chances he missed v hull and yesterday at 0-0 are game changers he needs time out at very best at worst he’s rewatched as good as it gets |
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Post by bhp on Sept 29, 2024 12:21:28 GMT
For Tom Canon see Liam Delap, he’ll be good in a couple of seasons At least you could see with Delap he had attributes but was learning how to use them, could see his athleticism, work ethic, willingness to run and work the channels. Not seen a glimpse of Cannons attributes or what he could potentially be, is he good back to goal? Does he work the channels? Or is he going to rely on chances being put on a plate for him? |
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Post by sportsman on Sept 29, 2024 12:27:32 GMT
lets be honest here 95 if not 100 per cent of our fanbase wanted him so after 3 games he as become shit, we do have owners who do put there money in the club but have no idea how to make it successfully run club, but for fans to say he Cannon is shit after 3 games just ask yourselfs this were you happy when we signed him Exactly. Most of this message board begged the club to do what it takes to get him. Doesn’t mean he won’t come good cause we need him to with the right service, bit getting bloody sick of the endless shit on here where people beg the club to buy nearly every player we’ve brought in then moan their bag off at them. I didn’t know hardly any of them brought in the 12 months but I’m willing to back them when needed whether they are good, poor or out of form. |
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