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Post by karl on Sept 25, 2024 14:29:44 GMT
With Gallagher alongside him he will be great.
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Post by a on Sept 25, 2024 14:44:16 GMT
10 championship goals is not pedigree. In the amount of games he’s like prime ronaldo for us. Good return but I think the word pedigree is doing a lot of the heavy lifting here 😂 |
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Post by shakermaker on Sept 25, 2024 15:08:04 GMT
In the amount of games he’s like prime ronaldo for us. Good return but I think the word pedigree is doing a lot of the heavy lifting here 😂 He scored 8 goals over the equivalent of over 18 full games for Preston. That equates to a goal every 2.3 games. However within that time, those 8 goals came in 11 consecutive games. I would say for a 20 y/old's first experience of the Championship, that's pretty good pedigree and shows he can score in the right set up. Clearly, deploying as a lone forward does not suit him. |
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Post by baconburger on Sept 26, 2024 8:02:07 GMT
Good return but I think the word pedigree is doing a lot of the heavy lifting here 😂 He scored 8 goals over the equivalent of over 18 full games for Preston. That equates to a goal every 2.3 games. However within that time, those 8 goals came in 11 consecutive games. I would say for a 20 y/old's first experience of the Championship, that's pretty good pedigree and shows he can score in the right set up. Clearly, deploying as a lone forward does not suit him. Let’s see if the set up is adapted to his attributes then. We’ve seen only one game under the new HC and I’m not sure how involved he was in selection or tactics but if that game is anything to go by the tactic of going long and aerial in to Cannon is definitely not suited to his attributes and if that is to remain as a primary tactic then I suspect that Gallagher is going to be better suited to lead the line. I’ve seen very little of Cannon so don’t know what best suits his game but just from one outing I’ll stick my neck out and say high balls pumped to his head isn’t one of his better attributes. |
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Post by nottsover60 on Sept 26, 2024 8:49:59 GMT
He scored 8 goals over the equivalent of over 18 full games for Preston. That equates to a goal every 2.3 games. However within that time, those 8 goals came in 11 consecutive games. I would say for a 20 y/old's first experience of the Championship, that's pretty good pedigree and shows he can score in the right set up. Clearly, deploying as a lone forward does not suit him. Let’s see if the set up is adapted to his attributes then. We’ve seen only one game under the new HC and I’m not sure how involved he was in selection or tactics but if that game is anything to go by the tactic of going long and aerial in to Cannon is definitely not suited to his attributes and if that is to remain as a primary tactic then I suspect that Gallagher is going to be better suited to lead the line. I’ve seen very little of Cannon so don’t know what best suits his game but just from one outing I’ll stick my neck out and say high balls pumped to his head isn’t one of his better attributes. It isn't the way Pelach talked of playing. He wants to create space for the likes of Million, Bae and presumably Cannon by drawing teams out and then quickly (which may of course mean long) getting the ball to our dangerous players so that they can exploit the space. He also talks about diagonal balls rather than down the middle. Expecting to see a transformation in the first match after just 48 hours at the club is bit much. |
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Post by J-Roar on Sept 26, 2024 9:04:19 GMT
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Post by baconburger on Sept 26, 2024 10:26:31 GMT
Let’s see if the set up is adapted to his attributes then. We’ve seen only one game under the new HC and I’m not sure how involved he was in selection or tactics but if that game is anything to go by the tactic of going long and aerial in to Cannon is definitely not suited to his attributes and if that is to remain as a primary tactic then I suspect that Gallagher is going to be better suited to lead the line. I’ve seen very little of Cannon so don’t know what best suits his game but just from one outing I’ll stick my neck out and say high balls pumped to his head isn’t one of his better attributes. It isn't the way Pelach talked of playing. He wants to create space for the likes of Million, Bae and presumably Cannon by drawing teams out and then quickly (which may of course mean long) getting the ball to our dangerous players so that they can exploit the space. He also talks about diagonal balls rather than down the middle. Expecting to see a transformation in the first match after just 48 hours at the club is bit much. I had no expectations whatsoever and quite deliberately did not associate it as anything to do with the HC. Watching the game I just thought it was a brainless tactic to persevere with as he wasn't getting close to winning a single one of them. I've not made it as a slight on Cannon either as I haven't seen enough of him to know what his strengths and weaknesses are just that on that basis aerial duels isn't one of them. |
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Post by stokiedan17 on Sept 26, 2024 10:37:28 GMT
Let’s see if the set up is adapted to his attributes then. We’ve seen only one game under the new HC and I’m not sure how involved he was in selection or tactics but if that game is anything to go by the tactic of going long and aerial in to Cannon is definitely not suited to his attributes and if that is to remain as a primary tactic then I suspect that Gallagher is going to be better suited to lead the line. I’ve seen very little of Cannon so don’t know what best suits his game but just from one outing I’ll stick my neck out and say high balls pumped to his head isn’t one of his better attributes. It isn't the way Pelach talked of playing. He wants to create space for the likes of Million, Bae and presumably Cannon by drawing teams out and then quickly (which may of course mean long) getting the ball to our dangerous players so that they can exploit the space. He also talks about diagonal balls rather than down the middle. Expecting to see a transformation in the first match after just 48 hours at the club is bit much. I said this on another thread. In the hull match from kick offs we played it short drew them in then played a direct ball to cannon to flick on to koumas, bae and million who were all running in behind as soon as that ball was launched. |
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Post by femark on Sept 26, 2024 11:15:57 GMT
It isn't the way Pelach talked of playing. He wants to create space for the likes of Million, Bae and presumably Cannon by drawing teams out and then quickly (which may of course mean long) getting the ball to our dangerous players so that they can exploit the space. He also talks about diagonal balls rather than down the middle. Expecting to see a transformation in the first match after just 48 hours at the club is bit much. I had no expectations whatsoever and quite deliberately did not associate it as anything to do with the HC. Watching the game I just thought it was a brainless tactic to persevere with as he wasn't getting close to winning a single one of them. I've not made it as a slight on Cannon either as I haven't seen enough of him to know what his strengths and weaknesses are just that on that basis aerial duels isn't one of them. It wasn't a tactic. It was in response to a lack of movement and options or a lack of ability/confidence to play the ball short. "If in doubt, twat it long" |
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Post by baconburger on Sept 26, 2024 11:53:39 GMT
I had no expectations whatsoever and quite deliberately did not associate it as anything to do with the HC. Watching the game I just thought it was a brainless tactic to persevere with as he wasn't getting close to winning a single one of them. I've not made it as a slight on Cannon either as I haven't seen enough of him to know what his strengths and weaknesses are just that on that basis aerial duels isn't one of them. It wasn't a tactic. It was in response to a lack of movement and options or a lack of ability/confidence to play the ball short. "If in doubt, twat it long" Then you need a targetman because it was way too often to have very little hope of making anything from it. Either that or try to play it over the the defence for him to chase (obviously difficult against a deep defensive line, which I don't think Hull particularly were), knocking it up to him to contest aerial duels looks pretty futile. |
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Post by a on Sept 26, 2024 12:07:24 GMT
Good return but I think the word pedigree is doing a lot of the heavy lifting here 😂 He scored 8 goals over the equivalent of over 18 full games for Preston. That equates to a goal every 2.3 games. However within that time, those 8 goals came in 11 consecutive games. I would say for a 20 y/old's first experience of the Championship, that's pretty good pedigree and shows he can score in the right set up. Clearly, deploying as a lone forward does not suit him. I agree it’s a good return but pedigree refers to a long period in history which he doesn’t have yet. Anyways it’s semantics and hopefully he starts banging them in for us. |
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Post by femark on Sept 26, 2024 12:36:35 GMT
It wasn't a tactic. It was in response to a lack of movement and options or a lack of ability/confidence to play the ball short. "If in doubt, twat it long" Then you need a targetman because it was way too often to have very little hope of making anything from it. Either that or try to play it over the the defence for him to chase (obviously difficult against a deep defensive line, which I don't think Hull particularly were), knocking it up to him to contest aerial duels looks pretty futile. I think we'll see much less of it in the coming weeks as we start to play the ball on the floor more often. It'll take time as the team needs to get used to it. If we continue with the long ball approach then Gallagher needs to start (when fit). |
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Post by emretezzy on Sept 28, 2024 15:08:38 GMT
Injured or removed for offering absolutely nothing for 3 games?
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Post by Stoke70 on Sept 28, 2024 15:10:55 GMT
Injured or removed for offering absolutely nothing for 3 games? 2nd option |
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Post by SamB_SCFC on Sept 28, 2024 15:14:03 GMT
Very early days but sadly looking very likely that we have another expensive dud on our hands.
He could turn it around. But so far his performances are just so far below the level we need them to be that I wonder if it's realistically possible for him to improve his performance by the number of levels he'll need to? He's just absolutely miles away at the moment. We simply have to give Koumas a run up front and hope that he can play himself into some form from the bench against tired opposition. It might actually help him to take him out of the spotlight right now because he really is struggling badly.
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Post by tejstokie on Sept 28, 2024 15:15:29 GMT
I don't get this Cannon love in. Haven't seen him do anything at all. Good nor bad just meh.
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Post by sportsman on Sept 28, 2024 15:23:18 GMT
I’m not knocking him as I didn’t know him or have an opinion on him, but all you know all pillocks did. You spent all summer banging on about the next Haaland.
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Post by teagles05 on Sept 28, 2024 16:12:44 GMT
Potential to be the worst loan signing in the history of the club
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 28, 2024 16:13:59 GMT
Worth 7m apparently. 🤣
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Post by mtrstudent on Sept 28, 2024 16:15:34 GMT
TBF I don't think even haaland would be getting on the end of 53 Thompson back passes to the edge of our own D.
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Post by tejstokie on Sept 28, 2024 16:16:33 GMT
If that's true, it's an Ode to Palacios. Wouldn't offer 70k. |
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Post by Clayton Wood on Sept 28, 2024 16:18:38 GMT
Never heard of the bloke before he signed and non the wiser what he is supposed to be about now either.
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Post by marwood on Sept 28, 2024 16:21:46 GMT
HES CRAP!
ABSOLUTELY CRAP!!!!
(Radio stoke, live, just)
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Post by Trouserdog on Sept 28, 2024 16:22:22 GMT
God, he's absolute rubbish.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Sept 28, 2024 16:25:10 GMT
Well he not another Wardrobe,a Wardrobes got more movement.
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Post by SamB_SCFC on Sept 28, 2024 16:27:04 GMT
TBF I don't think even haaland would be getting on the end of 53 Thompson back passes to the edge of our own D. I've been saying this for a few years now. I honestly think if you put Haaland in this team he'd struggle to make double figures. 15 goals absolute tops. Which would be insanely low considering his ability but that's how bad we are and how difficult we make it for strikers to succeed here. |
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Post by shrewspotter on Sept 28, 2024 16:27:27 GMT
Potential to be the worst loan signing in the history of the club in fairness, there's some fierce competition for that crown |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 28, 2024 16:32:54 GMT
How can anyone tell how good he is, the ball has been nowhere near him, he makes runs and nothing happens, there's not a lot he can do, he must be massively regretting agreeing to come here.
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Post by march4 on Sept 28, 2024 16:34:58 GMT
How can anyone tell how good he is, the ball has been nowhere near him, he makes runs and nothing happens, there's not a lot he can do, he must be massively regretting agreeing to come here. Good strikers make things happen and create from nothing. |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 28, 2024 16:37:00 GMT
How can anyone tell how good he is, the ball has been nowhere near him, he makes runs and nothing happens, there's not a lot he can do, he must be massively regretting agreeing to come here. Good strikers make things happen and create from nothing. Can't do that without the ball, he'd need to drop all the way down to the back four to get a touch. |
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