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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Sept 21, 2024 23:02:26 GMT
We know he can do it at this level, he's proven that at North End. Needs service and a bit of luck to get off the mark which should in turn give him the confidence to push on.
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Post by biddulphchav on Sept 21, 2024 23:24:56 GMT
We know he can do it at this level, he's proven that at North End. Needs service and a bit of luck to get off the mark which should in turn give him the confidence to push on. To be fair, he’s not really proven at this level. He’s got 10 career goal in the championship. He is a gamble, like most forward players unless you’ve got millions to spend. I think we should’ve kept Mmaee as another option as Gallagher isn’t prolific and Cannon may or may not be a flop |
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Sept 21, 2024 23:35:15 GMT
We know he can do it at this level, he's proven that at North End. Needs service and a bit of luck to get off the mark which should in turn give him the confidence to push on. To be fair, he’s not really proven at this level. He’s got 10 career goal in the championship. He is a gamble, like most forward players unless you’ve got millions to spend. I think we should’ve kept Mmaee as another option as Gallagher isn’t prolific and Cannon may or may not be a flop Mmae was appalling. Cannon scored 8 in 20 league games for Preston. Mmae, by comparison, scored 3 in 27 for us and had a pretty shite attitude. His time at Preston clearly shows he can do it at this level but he's going to need service, as any striker does. |
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Post by tuum on Sept 22, 2024 2:51:18 GMT
Manhoef could have passed to him at least a couple of times last night, when he was in a better position than himself, but selfishly took the shot himself. I know that Manhoef is our brightest spark at the moment, but in my opinion he plays for himself & not the team. So we are blaming Manhoef for Cannon being shit?! Sheesh!! No. We are blaming Manhoef for being a bit shit himself and not giving the opportunities to Cannon to show that he (Cannon) is not as shit as some people think. |
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Post by biddulphchav on Sept 22, 2024 2:52:57 GMT
To be fair, he’s not really proven at this level. He’s got 10 career goal in the championship. He is a gamble, like most forward players unless you’ve got millions to spend. I think we should’ve kept Mmaee as another option as Gallagher isn’t prolific and Cannon may or may not be a flop Mmae was appalling. Cannon scored 8 in 20 league games for Preston. Mmae, by comparison, scored 3 in 27 for us and had a pretty shite attitude. His time at Preston clearly shows he can do it at this level but he's going to need service, as any striker does. I don’t think 20 games would justify a tag of ‘proven’. I don’t think we are a good enough side for Cannon’s style of play either so I’d have kept Mmaee as another option. Time will tell but so far he’s looked miles off, and I don’t think he’ll create much for others as he doesn’t seem to be that player. |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 22, 2024 7:47:01 GMT
Mmae was appalling. Cannon scored 8 in 20 league games for Preston. Mmae, by comparison, scored 3 in 27 for us and had a pretty shite attitude. His time at Preston clearly shows he can do it at this level but he's going to need service, as any striker does. I don’t think 20 games would justify a tag of ‘proven’. I don’t think we are a good enough side for Cannon’s style of play either so I’d have kept Mmaee as another option. Time will tell but so far he’s looked miles off, and I don’t think he’ll create much for others as he doesn’t seem to be that player. Mmaee and Cannon could have worked well together 😶 |
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Post by elystokie on Sept 22, 2024 8:21:10 GMT
Mmae was appalling. Cannon scored 8 in 20 league games for Preston. Mmae, by comparison, scored 3 in 27 for us and had a pretty shite attitude. His time at Preston clearly shows he can do it at this level but he's going to need service, as any striker does. I don’t think 20 games would justify a tag of ‘proven’. I don’t think we are a good enough side for Cannon’s style of play either so I’d have kept Mmaee as another option. Time will tell but so far he’s looked miles off, and I don’t think he’ll create much for others as he doesn’t seem to be that player. Berahino scored 20 goals in 45 games for West Brom, that turned out well. Cannon hasn't looked any better than Vokes so far, hopefully just teething and settling in problems but it's difficult to argue that early signs are good, they definitely aren't. |
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Post by silverdollar on Sept 22, 2024 9:21:12 GMT
I have no doubt at all that Stoke now have the assets within their squad to score goals. Cannon in particular needs our understanding and support in getting the best out of him. It is up to Pelach how he tries to raise everyone's confidence but with Koumas, Manoef, Cannon, Junho and Gallagher I feel things can only get better.
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Post by nott1 on Sept 22, 2024 15:05:32 GMT
Needs games. Yes he does...........in the stiffs! |
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Post by Northy on Sept 22, 2024 15:31:21 GMT
He was just too isolated on Friday, and had a few lumped balls up to him to try and win a header, even when he did there wasn't anybody about to pick up the 2nd ball.
The 4-2-3-1 doesn't suit, I'd like to see 4-3-3 and see how he plays in that formation
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Sept 22, 2024 19:13:24 GMT
He was just too isolated on Friday, and had a few lumped balls up to him to try and win a header, even when he did there wasn't anybody about to pick up the 2nd ball. The 4-2-3-1 doesn't suit, I'd like to see 4-3-3 and see how he plays in that formation He needs Gallagher to share the load |
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Post by noustie on Sept 23, 2024 7:23:02 GMT
He’s obviously too tense and just needs chill out a bit. To relax the club recommended a countryside walk but unfortunately it backfired as a herd of cows started provocatively twerking their bovine buttocks in his direction whilst others plucked a selection of string instruments with their teeth.
There’s a player in there but not convinced we’re the team to unleash it unfortunately.
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Post by stokefanone on Sept 23, 2024 9:26:48 GMT
Did he play alongside Gallagher when he scored goals at Blackburn?
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Post by gingerninja on Sept 23, 2024 9:30:08 GMT
He's never played for Blackburn 🤔
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Post by femark on Sept 23, 2024 9:30:45 GMT
Did he play alongside Gallagher when he scored goals at Blackburn? He's never played for Blackburn... |
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Post by dirtygary69 on Sept 23, 2024 9:31:56 GMT
He's never played for Blackburn  |
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Post by kerouac on Sept 23, 2024 9:34:33 GMT
Has he ever played for Blackburn?
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Post by Gods on Sept 23, 2024 9:37:17 GMT
He's never played for Blackburn 🤔 I struggle with those north Lancs clubs too. Blackburn, Preston, Burnley, Oldham, Wigan...they all roll in to one for me! |
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Post by xchpotter on Sept 23, 2024 9:40:30 GMT
Needs games and time to get up to speed. He’s not played a great deal. Another four or so games and he will come alive.
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Post by Caddick988 on Sept 23, 2024 10:17:48 GMT
At least for Cannon on Friday night I thought he put himself about and did a good job with the press in the first half. He's been feeding of scraps at the minute though. Just catching up with the other champ games from the weekend, why is it our strikers don't ever seem to get easy tap in's like Maja's against Plymouth?
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Post by biglad180 on Sept 23, 2024 10:30:53 GMT
lets just try and give the lad a chance anyone should know when you go to work and people are on your back all the time you don,t do your best you just say fuckem,and take the piss
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Post by stokefanone on Sept 23, 2024 21:08:22 GMT
Did he play alongside Gallagher when he scored goals at Blackburn? He's never played for Blackburn... Oops! The old grey matter must be getting a bit squiggly🤔🫡 |
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Post by shakermaker on Sept 24, 2024 11:29:17 GMT
To be fair, he’s not really proven at this level. He’s got 10 career goal in the championship. He is a gamble, like most forward players unless you’ve got millions to spend. I think we should’ve kept Mmaee as another option as Gallagher isn’t prolific and Cannon may or may not be a flop Mmae was appalling. Cannon scored 8 in 20 league games for Preston. Mmae, by comparison, scored 3 in 27 for us and had a pretty shite attitude. His time at Preston clearly shows he can do it at this level but he's going to need service, as any striker does. Cannon's success at Preston was based on having a strike partner and pushing the wing backs high up to support. I think his time with us so far has proven he cannot play up front on his own, he needs someone to play off. When Gallagher's fit I think we'll see a big upturn in Cannon's shots on goal. In the meantime, if we want to see the best from Tom we need to ditch 4-2-3-1 and 4-3-3. Get Koumas up top alongside or playing just behind. |
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Post by a on Sept 24, 2024 16:40:16 GMT
He will come good he has pedigree 10 championship goals is not pedigree. |
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Post by wonderwall on Sept 24, 2024 16:43:08 GMT
He will come good he has pedigree 10 championship goals is not pedigree. In the amount of games he’s like prime ronaldo for us. |
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Post by dirtclod on Sept 24, 2024 16:52:06 GMT
One play from last match, one which Manhoef missed a goal. They had a 2 on 1 to the left side of the goal, Cannon running down the middle. If that ball had been passed to him, Cannon would have easily tapped it in as the goalie was fading towards Manhoef who of course, missed. I recall seeing Cannon on at least 4 or 5 occasions, making runs into dangerous areas - all it took was a useful pass. Not sure what Gibson was trying to do, lumping balls forward at him head high and off target.
A Cannon functions best when supplied with ammo.
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Post by pottersrule on Sept 24, 2024 18:13:27 GMT
One play from last match, one which Manhoef missed a goal. They had a 2 on 1 to the left side of the goal, Cannon running down the middle. If that ball had been passed to him, Cannon would have easily tapped it in as the goalie was fading towards Manhoef who of course, missed. I recall seeing Cannon on at least 4 or 5 occasions, making runs into dangerous areas - all it took was a useful pass. Not sure what Gibson was trying to do, lumping balls forward at him head high and off target. A Cannon functions best when supplied with ammo. Manhoef could also have played Koumas in during the first half and chose to shoot.With better descision making we could have been 3 up.Suppose that’s young players for you. |
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Post by lordb on Sept 24, 2024 18:28:28 GMT
One play from last match, one which Manhoef missed a goal. They had a 2 on 1 to the left side of the goal, Cannon running down the middle. If that ball had been passed to him, Cannon would have easily tapped it in as the goalie was fading towards Manhoef who of course, missed. I recall seeing Cannon on at least 4 or 5 occasions, making runs into dangerous areas - all it took was a useful pass. Not sure what Gibson was trying to do, lumping balls forward at him head high and off target. A Cannon functions best when supplied with ammo. Manhoef could also have played Koumas in during the first half and chose to shoot.With better descision making we could have been 3 up.Suppose that’s young players for you. To be fair that one was probably the right option,good shot,good save,Koumas wasn't particularly in a better position The one later he absolutely should have squared for Cannon,he has a tap in , he's off and running and at 2.0 at HT we probably win the game |
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Post by smallthorner on Sept 24, 2024 18:42:41 GMT
Mmae was appalling. Cannon scored 8 in 20 league games for Preston. Mmae, by comparison, scored 3 in 27 for us and had a pretty shite attitude. His time at Preston clearly shows he can do it at this level but he's going to need service, as any striker does. Cannon's success at Preston was based on having a strike partner and pushing the wing backs high up to support. I think his time with us so far has proven he cannot play up front on his own, he needs someone to play off. When Gallagher's fit I think we'll see a big upturn in Cannon's shots on goal. In the meantime, if we want to see the best from Tom we need to ditch 4-2-3-1 and 4-3-3. Get Koumas up top alongside or playing just behind. I've got a feeling young Narky is going to go all 3-4-3 or 3-5-2 soon. |
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Post by shakermaker on Sept 25, 2024 12:26:45 GMT
Cannon's success at Preston was based on having a strike partner and pushing the wing backs high up to support. I think his time with us so far has proven he cannot play up front on his own, he needs someone to play off. When Gallagher's fit I think we'll see a big upturn in Cannon's shots on goal. In the meantime, if we want to see the best from Tom we need to ditch 4-2-3-1 and 4-3-3. Get Koumas up top alongside or playing just behind. I've got a feeling young Narky is going to go all 3-4-3 or 3-5-2 soon. I hope it isn't 3-4-3. Cannon is completely impotent as a lone forward. He needs a strike partner, but I wouldn't want 3-5-2 either as that relies on wing backs and Million is not a wing back. |
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