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Post by wakeypotter on Sept 21, 2024 9:12:35 GMT
Right now thats not unfair and many said steer clear because of rthe injury and he looks totally lost my only thought is try him with Gallagher in a 442 or 411 or Gallagher and koumas or million in the role he played last night but of course it still need to cannon to earn of those two players we essentially have 5 for including Ennis biut no decent midfielders It’s not unfair at all. He’s looked like a clown. And I could call him all the names under the sun and totally right him off and that would be unfair. Funny you should mention Ennis. Ennis never looked this bad. He said that’s not unfair tbf |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 21, 2024 9:14:20 GMT
It’s not unfair at all. He’s looked like a clown. And I could call him all the names under the sun and totally right him off and that would be unfair. Funny you should mention Ennis. Ennis never looked this bad. He said that’s not unfair tbf 🤣🤣🤣 Ffs So he did. Sorry Benji! I want to be so much harsher on Cannon tbh but I desperately want him to work. |
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 21, 2024 9:18:31 GMT
Can't see us giving up on him any time soon.
The ££££ we've got tied up in him for this one season must be on the scary side, with doubtless a big 6-figure loan fee and massive chunk (maybe all if Nixon is to be believed?) of his wages.
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Post by wakeypotter on Sept 21, 2024 9:19:27 GMT
He said that’s not unfair tbf 🤣🤣🤣 Ffs So he did. Sorry Benji! I want to be so much harsher on Cannon tbh but I desperately want him to work. 😂 Likewise. He’s was terrible lastnight but we need him to work as we don’t have anyone else. On one plus side he does move and challenge although doesn’t win much. He drew the defender away so it opened up for million who should have scored |
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Post by robwahlmann on Sept 21, 2024 9:24:32 GMT
I think it's hard to assess him yet as he hardly has seen anything of the ball. We certainly don't give our main striker an easy ride!  He shown no sign of making a nuisance of himself. That's true, but we certainly don't seem to create much for him either! |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 21, 2024 9:34:51 GMT
How can you tell when he's had so little created for him. . Because he offered absolutely nothing else, when he really should. He isnt there just to have people put chances on a plate for him. He should be making runs, he should be making a nuisance of himself, he should be holding the ball up and bringing others into play, He does none of that. He was making runs and he got ignored, Manoff had a simple ball to put him through more than once and ignored him. He didn't get the ball often enough to hold it up, lumping it at his head isn't his game. Its Mmaee all over again, strikers need to be tailored to at this level to get the best out of them and we haven't done that. |
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Post by mickstupp on Sept 21, 2024 9:36:23 GMT
Half the division after him apparently. He puts on a Stoke shirt and looks absolutely hopeless. I despair with this club at times.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Sept 21, 2024 9:37:18 GMT
I think it's still too early to write him off but like most our hunches are saying he's a dud. I'd play Koumas there myself as I believe the WBA game with a front 3 of him, Junho and Manhoef is our strongest set and have Moran at 10 Yeah I’m hoping he goes with this for now: Burger Sidibe Moran Manhoef Koumas Junho But Junho ideally needs dropping. Away from home you could put Bocat there and have Stevens at left back? I don’t think that’d be horrific. That looks really good,but what about the useless defenders behind them who will cost us the game? |
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Post by retrostoke on Sept 21, 2024 9:39:42 GMT
Strikers can’t score unless someone can actually find them with the ball.
He makes run after run into space. Ball never arrives
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Post by SamB_SCFC on Sept 21, 2024 10:26:11 GMT
I obviously hope I'm wrong and there's plenty of time to turn it around. But from what I've seen of him so far I'd be very, very surprised if he gets much more than 5 league goals. And I think he'll struggle to get that. Don't know whether it's his own limitations or simply the shitness of our team but he's looked so far away from what we need so far that it's very difficult to see him adapting his game enough to be able to close that gap and become a good player for us.
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Post by Mars on Sept 21, 2024 10:34:16 GMT
He's going to need a run of 10 games in the team given the investment.
You can see signs of a decent striker there, and we have a complete dearth of other options (Koumas needs to play wide if we are going to be successful with the way Pelach wants to play), but he does look terribly rusty.
You would certainly hope that he's not going to be competing for quite so many 40 yard long balls as the football evolves.
I certainly wouldn't be writing him off yet.
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Post by senojbor on Sept 21, 2024 10:43:40 GMT
He's better than Ennis, that's a positive. He needs time. We have very few options
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Post by RAF on Sept 21, 2024 10:51:01 GMT
Strikers can’t score unless someone can actually find them with the ball. He makes run after run into space. Ball never arrives Absolutely this whilst the other myopic pricks just either shoot or give the ball away! H |
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Post by tqstokie on Sept 21, 2024 10:52:24 GMT
He's better than Ennis, that's a positive. He needs time. We have very few options What has he done here to make you say that? |
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Post by conzdad on Sept 21, 2024 11:14:12 GMT
Strikers can’t score unless someone can actually find them with the ball. He makes run after run into space. Ball never arrives Exactly,and what will that do for his confidence? |
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Post by GeneralFaye on Sept 21, 2024 11:16:59 GMT
Are people really still going to blame the striker? It doesn’t matter what striker we have they simply have nothing to work with. We were just smacking long balls up to him all game and created absolutely nothing for him, the two times he was free for a pass Manhoef went for goal instead of giving it to him. Seems like there's not many of us who can see the bigger picture.. I saw the same game as you. |
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Post by tqstokie on Sept 21, 2024 11:43:03 GMT
Are people really still going to blame the striker? It doesn’t matter what striker we have they simply have nothing to work with. We were just smacking long balls up to him all game and created absolutely nothing for him, the two times he was free for a pass Manhoef went for goal instead of giving it to him. Seems like there's not many of us who can see the bigger picture.. I saw the same game as you. Million is very selfish and guilty of poor decision making when others are better placed. He needs to be told that it’s not all about him. |
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Post by thehoof on Sept 21, 2024 12:41:44 GMT
He does need time to get match fit with 14 months playing only 7 games.
He made two excellent runs which opened the space for Manhoef, who is getting a free ride for missing effectively two straight forward chances.
If he had fed Cannon and Cannon had missed, I could understand it better.
If Manhoef had a football brain to go with his ability, he’d make a decent premier player- but his tunnel vision will hold him back unless he realises that you often have to put your fellow forward in.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 21, 2024 12:43:49 GMT
Are people really still going to blame the striker? It doesn’t matter what striker we have they simply have nothing to work with. We were just smacking long balls up to him all game and created absolutely nothing for him, the two times he was free for a pass Manhoef went for goal instead of giving it to him. Seems like there's not many of us who can see the bigger picture.. I saw the same game as you. He can’t control the ball. He barely moved. Ennis looks better. He looks that bad. |
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Post by robwahlmann on Sept 21, 2024 12:46:32 GMT
I honestly think Gallagher will suit our way of playing better, but time will tell.  |
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Post by barcaontrent on Sept 21, 2024 14:37:57 GMT
Who has been our best out and out striker since we have gone down? I think it’s probably Steven Fletcher which is quite frightening
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Post by onepara on Sept 21, 2024 15:57:35 GMT
Manhoef could have passed to him at least a couple of times last night, when he was in a better position than himself, but selfishly took the shot himself. I know that Manhoef is our brightest spark at the moment, but in my opinion he plays for himself & not the team.
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Post by biglad180 on Sept 21, 2024 18:30:41 GMT
don,t right the lad off yet let him settle and get behind him instead of knocking him,, we wrote josh Maja off far to soon now he is on fire
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Post by GeneralFaye on Sept 21, 2024 19:47:52 GMT
Seems like there's not many of us who can see the bigger picture.. I saw the same game as you. He can’t control the ball. He barely moved. Ennis looks better. He looks that bad. 👍🏻 we'll revisit this. |
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Post by brinsleymaclagan on Sept 21, 2024 21:55:15 GMT
Manhoef could have passed to him at least a couple of times last night, when he was in a better position than himself, but selfishly took the shot himself. I know that Manhoef is our brightest spark at the moment, but in my opinion he plays for himself & not the team. So we are blaming Manhoef for Cannon being shit?! Sheesh!! |
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Post by whatsashig on Sept 21, 2024 22:05:38 GMT
Manhoef could have passed to him at least a couple of times last night, when he was in a better position than himself, but selfishly took the shot himself. I know that Manhoef is our brightest spark at the moment, but in my opinion he plays for himself & not the team. So we are blaming Manhoef for Cannon being shit?! Sheesh!! He did though and it’s not the only game it appears he made such a decision. Hopefully they review and learn. We can then find out more, about who is shit but really it’s not that, it’s a team and working together and rather than saying they’re shit it’s he’s had an off game today. Lots of opinions drawn on event that in the scope of a wider context. Was a bad night in result but also it was down to mistakes. A few years back they was happening in same manner but they did get cut out gradually. Each game is different. Yeah I’m blah blah ing. |
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Post by nott1 on Sept 21, 2024 22:11:55 GMT
Needs games............in the stiffs!
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Post by hamsta2 on Sept 21, 2024 22:17:19 GMT
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Post by ChrisKamarasPerm on Sept 21, 2024 22:35:04 GMT
A poacher type striker never does well for us.
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Post by hamsta2 on Sept 21, 2024 22:40:13 GMT
A poacher type striker never does well for us. There’s not many around and haven’t been for years. I’d guess Fowler/Rush/Derek Hales/Defoe. |
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