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Post by Absolution on Jul 28, 2024 13:38:55 GMT
Not sure that would make us competitive, when every other club in the division have 5 fringe Prem players turning out for them. loans haven’t exactly helped since we came down , been a lot of bad ones See also permanent transfers. |
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Post by thornestein on Jul 28, 2024 13:41:07 GMT
loans haven’t exactly helped since we came down , been a lot of bad ones See also permanent transfers. true lol 😂 |
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Post by thornestein on Jul 28, 2024 13:41:50 GMT
not against loans , we’re just shit at them , and why the fuck would i want do that , i have a life unlike you I wouldn't know what your quality of life is like but I'm more than happy with mine thanks. I answer to absolutely no one. tbf mate you certainly find time argue you on here with everyman and his dog 😉😁😂 |
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Post by idle on Jul 28, 2024 13:42:12 GMT
How many minutes and for which teams has a lot of bearing in these matters. Cannon scored 8 in 20 for Preston and 2 in 13 for Leicester (10 in 33, averaging 209 minutes per goal) BTA has 18 in 72 (257 min/goal) for WBA Gallagher has 50 in 265 (341 min/goal), although over a lot longer period. He also has 22 assists, which bring his min/goal+assist down to 236) Both BTA and TC have 2 assists in total I think Cannons stats are way better, but hey, don't let facts bother you. Because you’re trying to dictate what is being compared. Simple fact they’ve both scored more goals in a championship season than Cannon. And that is precisely what you are doing as well. I have no interest in discussing "simple facts" with no qualifyers. That's just being argumentative for it's own sake. Every stat has context that needs to be taken into account. And there are two or three very important factors when I'm discussing the three strikers. Feel free to stop replying if you're not interested in a discussion. You don’t seem to be able to accept that even with the qualifying statement that I’d miles prefer Cannon to Gallagher too. BTA scored 11 assisted 2 in 41 games last season I think that’s kind of relevant. It sure is. In fact it' was a pretty good season from a (IMO) mediocre striker. But the fact is still that TCs 8 in 20 is nearly a 50% better output per game, even if it was the year before and "only" from 20 games. TC couldn't have scored over the whole season, as he wasn't at PNE for more than half a season. Over a whole season is just as arbitrary as any other period of games. You could argue that he had 10 in a year, from Jan 10th 2023 to Jan 1st 2024, including a long injury break. And while playing for a (IMO) worse team than BTA for most of his goals. The second thing is that SGs stats are over a much longer time period, usually consisting of both good and bad seasons. And with a much better assist rate (774 min/assist) than the other two (over 2300 for BTA and 1045 for TC). He's a decent "donkey" striker, just too old for my liking as he has little to no resale value. I think I would rate them as 1. Cannon, 2. Gallagher and 3. BTA, with the only negative with Cannon that he'd be a loaner. |
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Post by wakeypotter on Jul 28, 2024 13:45:22 GMT
not against loans , we’re just shit at them , and why the fuck would i want do that , i have a life unlike you I wouldn't know what your quality of life is like but I'm more than happy with mine thanks. I answer to absolutely no one. What no even the wife. Don’t believe you 😜 |
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Post by baconburger on Jul 28, 2024 13:49:48 GMT
Because you’re trying to dictate what is being compared. Simple fact they’ve both scored more goals in a championship season than Cannon. And that is precisely what you are doing as well. I have no interest in discussing "simple facts" with no qualifyers. That's just being argumentative for it's own sake. Every stat has context that needs to be taken into account. And there are two or three very important factors when I'm discussing the three strikers. Feel free to stop replying if you're not interested in a discussion. You don’t seem to be able to accept that even with the qualifying statement that I’d miles prefer Cannon to Gallagher too. BTA scored 11 assisted 2 in 41 games last season I think that’s kind of relevant. It sure is. In fact it' was a pretty good season from a (IMO) mediocre striker. But the fact is still that TCs 8 in 20 is nearly a 50% better output per game, even if it was the year before and "only" from 20 games. TC couldn't have scored over the whole season, as he wasn't at PNE for more than half a season. Over a whole season is just as arbitrary as any other period of games. You could argue that he had 10 in a year, from Jan 10th 2023 to Jan 1st 2024, including a long injury break. And while playing for a (IMO) worse team than BTA for most of his goals. The second thing is that SGs stats are over a much longer time period, usually consisting of both good and bad seasons. And with a much better assist rate (774 min/assist) than the other two (over 2300 for BTA and 1045 for TC). He's a decent "donkey" striker, just too old for my liking as he has little to no resale value. I think I would rate them as 1. Cannon, 2. Gallagher and 3. BTA, with the only negative with Cannon that he'd be a loaner. You might but others might not be willing to agree. I'd go BTA perm, Cannon loan, Gallagher perm. You obviously don't rate BTA and choose to ignore his attributes (I'd say they were not even debateable really) other than scoring goals. Pace, Strength, Combativeness, Versatility (he can play off the left too) and he scores some goals too, there's very little not to like. imo he's a better option than Gallagher in just about every conceivable way. |
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Post by baconburger on Jul 28, 2024 13:50:55 GMT
I wouldn't know what your quality of life is like but I'm more than happy with mine thanks. I answer to absolutely no one. What no even the wife. Don’t believe you 😜 Please yourself if you knew her she'd tell you herself, she's not in denial. |
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Post by lordb on Jul 28, 2024 13:51:11 GMT
Because you’re trying to dictate what is being compared. Simple fact they’ve both scored more goals in a championship season than Cannon. And that is precisely what you are doing as well. I have no interest in discussing "simple facts" with no qualifyers. That's just being argumentative for it's own sake. Every stat has context that needs to be taken into account. And there are two or three very important factors when I'm discussing the three strikers. Feel free to stop replying if you're not interested in a discussion. You don’t seem to be able to accept that even with the qualifying statement that I’d miles prefer Cannon to Gallagher too. BTA scored 11 assisted 2 in 41 games last season I think that’s kind of relevant. It sure is. In fact it' was a pretty good season from a (IMO) mediocre striker. But the fact is still that TCs 8 in 20 is nearly a 50% better output per game, even if it was the year before and "only" from 20 games. TC couldn't have scored over the whole season, as he wasn't at PNE for more than half a season. Over a whole season is just as arbitrary as any other period of games. You could argue that he had 10 in a year, from Jan 10th 2023 to Jan 1st 2024, including a long injury break. And while playing for a (IMO) worse team than BTA for most of his goals. The second thing is that SGs stats are over a much longer time period, usually consisting of both good and bad seasons. And with a much better assist rate (774 min/assist) than the other two (over 2300 for BTA and 1045 for TC). He's a decent "donkey" striker, just too old for my liking as he has little to no resale value. I think I would rate them as 1. Cannon, 2. Gallagher and 3. BTA, with the only negative with Cannon that he'd be a loaner. Would agree with that order however don't really want Gallagher or BTA to tbh |
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Post by baconburger on Jul 28, 2024 13:54:46 GMT
And that is precisely what you are doing as well. I have no interest in discussing "simple facts" with no qualifyers. That's just being argumentative for it's own sake. Every stat has context that needs to be taken into account. And there are two or three very important factors when I'm discussing the three strikers. Feel free to stop replying if you're not interested in a discussion. It sure is. In fact it' was a pretty good season from a (IMO) mediocre striker. But the fact is still that TCs 8 in 20 is nearly a 50% better output per game, even if it was the year before and "only" from 20 games. TC couldn't have scored over the whole season, as he wasn't at PNE for more than half a season. Over a whole season is just as arbitrary as any other period of games. You could argue that he had 10 in a year, from Jan 10th 2023 to Jan 1st 2024, including a long injury break. And while playing for a (IMO) worse team than BTA for most of his goals. The second thing is that SGs stats are over a much longer time period, usually consisting of both good and bad seasons. And with a much better assist rate (774 min/assist) than the other two (over 2300 for BTA and 1045 for TC). He's a decent "donkey" striker, just too old for my liking as he has little to no resale value. I think I would rate them as 1. Cannon, 2. Gallagher and 3. BTA, with the only negative with Cannon that he'd be a loaner. Would agree with that order however don't really want Gallagher or BTA to tbh Is there a single physical CF of anything close to our level you do want?? |
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Post by idle on Jul 28, 2024 13:58:09 GMT
You might but others might not be willing to agree. I'd go BTA perm, Cannon loan, Gallagher perm. You obviously don't rate BTA and choose to ignore his attributes (I'd say they were not even debateable really) other than scoring goals. Pace, Strength, Combativeness, Versatility (he can play off the left too) and he scores some goals too, there's very little not to like. imo he's a better option than Gallagher in just about every conceivable way. You're right I don't really rate BTA. I think he's a run of the mill, at best mid-table, championship striker. Other than his age I think Gallagher is better, but I'm not really sure if BTAs resale value would be that great if he chooses us over Southampton. Gallagher does all those things you mention, plus gets a few assists. He'd probably be cheaper too, at least the transfer fee. But I'm with lordb on this one. I don't really want any of them other than other than if we were to get rid of Ennis. And we'll never get all three. I can't see that happening when we already have 4 strikers on the books, even if we loan out both Tezgel and Lowe. |
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Post by J-Roar on Jul 28, 2024 13:59:24 GMT
What no even the wife. Don’t believe you 😜 Please yourself if you knew her she'd tell you herself, she's not in denial. I once went on an Egyptian cruise.. |
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Post by baconburger on Jul 28, 2024 14:03:00 GMT
Please yourself if you knew her she'd tell you herself, she's not in denial. I once went on an Egyptian cruise.. Don't really know what you're implying. She's completely English from Meir and we were in the same class at school. I don't go to those type of places anyway. Don't ask me why you'll only start another riot on here. |
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Post by 1948fitch on Jul 28, 2024 14:04:56 GMT
I once went on an Egyptian cruise.. Don't really know what you're implying. She's completely English from Meir and we were in the same class at school. I don't go to those type of places anyway. Don't ask me why you'll only start another riot on here. he went the Nile (denial)  |
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Post by WorkingclassHero on Jul 28, 2024 14:04:59 GMT
I once went on an Egyptian cruise.. Don't really know what you're implying. She's completely English from Meir and we were in the same class at school. I don't go to those type of places anyway. Don't ask me why you'll only start another riot on here. Whoosh |
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Post by baconburger on Jul 28, 2024 14:08:14 GMT
I wouldn't know what your quality of life is like but I'm more than happy with mine thanks. I answer to absolutely no one. tbf mate you certainly find time argue you on here.with everyman and his dog 😉😁😂 Well if you were into researching what you're saying instead of just shooting from the hip. I could send you the entry and exit stamps on my passport and you could compare my post count when I'm in the UK to when I aren't. You could even put that StokieJoe idiot straight then. |
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Jul 28, 2024 14:11:06 GMT
Speaking of Egypt
Does anyone remember Pyramint?
A bit awkward to eat but nice . A kind of Cheops based chocolaty mint treat
Far better than Terry's Choc Orange
Possibly cursed so they stopped making them
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Jul 28, 2024 14:48:01 GMT
Speaking of Egypt Does anyone remember Pyramint? A bit awkward to eat but nice . A kind of Cheops based chocolaty mint treat Far better than Terry's Choc Orange Possibly cursed so they stopped making them You must be a right fat cnut with all the shite you eat 😆 |
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Jul 28, 2024 14:54:03 GMT
Speaking of Egypt Does anyone remember Pyramint? A bit awkward to eat but nice . A kind of Cheops based chocolaty mint treat Far better than Terry's Choc Orange Possibly cursed so they stopped making them You must be a right fat cnut with all the shite you eat 😆 About 9 and a half stone Must be some messed up stuff going on I do have the odd Multi Grain bar to balance things out |
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Post by thornestein on Jul 28, 2024 15:00:08 GMT
You must be a right fat cnut with all the shite you eat 😆 About 9 and a half stone Must be some messed up stuff going on I do have the odd Multi Grain bar to balance things out try putting both feet on the scales |
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Post by baconburger on Jul 28, 2024 15:11:00 GMT
You must be a right fat cnut with all the shite you eat 😆 About 9 and a half stone Must be some messed up stuff going on I do have the odd Multi Grain bar to balance things out 9 and a half stone. Are you 12 yo |
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Jul 28, 2024 15:12:12 GMT
About 9 and a half stone Must be some messed up stuff going on I do have the odd Multi Grain bar to balance things out 9 and a half stone. Are you 12 yo About the same height 😁 |
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Post by J-Roar on Jul 28, 2024 15:25:04 GMT
I once went on an Egyptian cruise.. Don't really know what you're implying. She's completely English from Meir and we were in the same class at school. I don't go to those type of places anyway. Don't ask me why you'll only start another riot on here. Possibly that you're humourless reading your reply. |
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Post by baconburger on Jul 28, 2024 15:37:01 GMT
Don't really know what you're implying. She's completely English from Meir and we were in the same class at school. I don't go to those type of places anyway. Don't ask me why you'll only start another riot on here. Possibly that you're humourless reading your reply. As opposed to your stunning one liners. I’ve always made a point of pitching my humour to its target. There’s absolutely no fun in taking the piss out of someone if they don’t know you’re doing it. The jeopardy of their reaction is most of the fun. |
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Post by march4 on Jul 28, 2024 16:43:20 GMT
Not sure that would make us competitive, when every other club in the division have 5 fringe Prem players turning out for them. loans haven’t exactly helped since we came down , been a lot of bad ones Cundle, McNally and Hoever were a key part of our survival last season. However, one of the reasons we have struggled since relegation is our poor recruitment from the loan system. The 5 players should all be among our best not sitting on the bench or even not playing at all. |
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Post by lordb on Jul 28, 2024 17:36:43 GMT
Possibly that you're humourless reading your reply. As opposed to your stunning one liners. I’ve always made a point of pitching my humour to its target. There’s absolutely no fun in taking the piss out of someone if they don’t know you’re doing it. The jeopardy of their reaction is most of the fun. He's definitely funnier than you |
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Post by baconburger on Jul 28, 2024 17:41:40 GMT
As opposed to your stunning one liners. I’ve always made a point of pitching my humour to its target. There’s absolutely no fun in taking the piss out of someone if they don’t know you’re doing it. The jeopardy of their reaction is most of the fun. He's definitely funnier than you Fucking hell not another who needs a psychology lesson. Funnier to you if you share his sense of humour. Mines maybe too dark, too contrary, too controversial, too confrontational for your liking. |
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Post by logdog on Jul 28, 2024 17:46:24 GMT
He's definitely funnier than you Fucking hell not another who needs a psychology lesson. Funnier to you if you share his sense of humour. Mines maybe too dark, too contrary, too controversial, too confrontational for your liking. Nothing worse than a man who laughs at his own jokes. |
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Jul 28, 2024 18:10:50 GMT
Fucking hell not another who needs a psychology lesson. Funnier to you if you share his sense of humour. Mines maybe too dark, too contrary, too controversial, too confrontational for your liking. Nothing worse than a man who laughs at his own jokes. My sister's cat peed in my car once on the way to the vet and the smell lingered in the carpets for weeks Trust me that was worse. No amount of magic trees could hide it. |
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Post by supersimonstainrod on Jul 28, 2024 18:18:51 GMT
Speaking of Egypt Does anyone remember Pyramint? A bit awkward to eat but nice . A kind of Cheops based chocolaty mint treat Far better than Terry's Choc Orange Possibly cursed so they stopped making them What self-respecting Giza would eat something like that? |
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Post by pottersrule on Jul 28, 2024 18:24:40 GMT
Lowe looks a lot stronger than last season and was really putting himself about to good effect yesterday. You'll just have to accept that there are quite a number of people who'd like him to go out on loan and come back when he's even stronger than that then. I think some people confuse strength with feistiness Joe Allen was feisty but I'd never describe him as being physically imposing. Was just making a statement of fact tbh.Not qualified to say whether he would benefit from a loan period or not.Should leave that to those best qualified to judge that imo. |
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