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Post by hoppo96 on Jul 29, 2024 12:55:52 GMT
People doubting Jon Walters forget it was his work at Waterford & Fleetwood that got him this job...
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Post by werrington on Jul 29, 2024 12:55:59 GMT
Every board has a Bayern. Nah just seems they think he’s wank generally. Stoke fans thought Lee Chapman was wank, Southampton fans thought Fuller was wank …..want some more? Give it a fuckin rest Bayern …..it’s boring
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Post by delilahwhy on Jul 29, 2024 12:57:01 GMT
Every board has a Bayern. Nah just seems they think he’s wank generally. Weren't Ipswich after him in January? They seem to know what they're doing.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 29, 2024 12:58:50 GMT
Nah just seems they think he’s wank generally. Stoke fans thought Lee Chapman was wank, Southampton fans thought Fuller was wank …..want some more? Give it a fuckin rest Bayern …..it’s boring 🤣🤣 No
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 29, 2024 12:59:14 GMT
Nah just seems they think he’s wank generally. Weren't Ipswich after him in January? They seem to know what they're doing. And didn’t sign him in the end?
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Post by silsdenstokie on Jul 29, 2024 13:00:08 GMT
Gotta give him a chance folks
And its not as if we are spunking a Vokes like fee on him
Im ok with it
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Post by baconburger on Jul 29, 2024 13:00:10 GMT
Did anyone expect anything different than resorting back to the dark ages ? That's the direction Dublin was told and is why he got sacked. JD fell out with SS over his directed signings ( Cundle, Ennis ect ) in January. Why would he fall out with SS over that. There had been manager led signings in his entire time at the club. They stick out like sore thumbs.
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Post by stokiejoe89 on Jul 29, 2024 13:00:44 GMT
People still don't seem to realise that when a player leaves a club..suddenly all fans of that club do is slate that player.
Means absolutely fuck all.
A player should always be judged on what he does for YOU not other clubs.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 29, 2024 13:02:36 GMT
People still don't seem to realise that when a player leaves a club..suddenly all fans of that club do is slate that player. Means absolutely fuck all. A player should always be judged on what he does for YOU not other clubs. They clearly don’t like him. Look at them with him and then look at them with Szmodics. They clearly just don’t think he’s very good. Look at our lot with Leris. He is actually terrible and people are sad to see him go!
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Jul 29, 2024 13:02:39 GMT
Screams of Walters transfer regime 'knows the league' 'works hard' 'limited ability' 'no sell on potential' 'high wages' weve done 360 and reverted back to what worked so well for the past 5 years. Whereas last year we would have been the ones in for Makhtar Gueye..... 'decent scoring record abroad' 'good age' 'exciting potential' 'potential high sell on' Ok it was high risk and not all come off but how much more exciting was life with the likes of Junho, Mmaee, Burger all rocked up. Its just all thoroughly boring and pretty down right depressing now. Can anyone really say they're excited by the prospects of Gallagher and Wintle rocking up We're not going to get promoted (or even finish in the top half) with a team full of Junho, Mmaee, and Burger-type players, and we've got those already (assuming they stay). The best teams have a mix - look at our Championship promotion season and the first couple of years under Hughes. And pretty much everyone was underwhelmed with our signings in 2007.
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Post by LGH87 on Jul 29, 2024 13:03:50 GMT
Weren't Ipswich after him in January? They seem to know what they're doing. And didn’t sign him in the end? Because Blackburn fucked the Maguire deal up, so put a stop to the Gallagher to Ipswich transfer.
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Post by DC1863 on Jul 29, 2024 13:03:51 GMT
No guarantee the fee is actually £1.5m, could be dependent on extras, or just genuinely less than that.
Not one to excite the fans, especially after this morning's links, but I've always thought he looked a handful playing against us and gives us a bit of a physical presence up top.
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Post by baconburger on Jul 29, 2024 13:04:16 GMT
People doubting Jon Walters forget it was his work at Waterford & Fleetwood that got him this job... "I just don't think you understand" "we've got Sooooper Jon"
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Post by ilikelamp on Jul 29, 2024 13:04:55 GMT
Weren't Ipswich after him in January? They seem to know what they're doing. And didn’t sign him in the end? Due to maguire falling through from Orlando so they pulled the plug on Gallagher going to ipswich
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Post by baconburger on Jul 29, 2024 13:05:40 GMT
No guarantee the fee is actually £1.5m, could be dependent on extras, or just genuinely less than that. Not one to excite the fans, especially after this morning's links, but I've always thought he looked a handful playing against us and gives us a bit of a physical presence up top. Watcha mean he's a left winger apparently
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Post by bertiestan on Jul 29, 2024 13:07:22 GMT
I bet Ipswich were paying more than 1.5m in January aswell🔴⚪️
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Jul 29, 2024 13:09:51 GMT
People still don't seem to realise that when a player leaves a club..suddenly all fans of that club do is slate that player. Means absolutely fuck all. A player should always be judged on what he does for YOU not other clubs. They clearly don’t like him. Look at them with him and then look at them with Szmodics. They clearly just don’t think he’s very good. Look at our lot with Leris. He is actually terrible and people are sad to see him go! Some are sad to see Campbell go who apparently is still a 20 goal a season striker in someone's opinion the other day despite scoring 30 in 8 years All that matters is what a player does here.
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Post by rowleyscfc on Jul 29, 2024 13:10:01 GMT
Stoke were a premier league team the last time Sam Gallagher scored over 10 league goals in a single campaign and that was 11 in 16/17 Just check to see how many his partners have scored during that time?🔴⚪️ 22 Assist in his whole championship career would say he's more ineffective at setting his team mates up. Unless of course your suggesting he deserves credit because he was simply on the pitch whilst his teammates scored is simply ridiculous
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Post by dirtygary69 on Jul 29, 2024 13:11:02 GMT
Needlessly over the top as usual. We need another body in up top and I doubt it'll be the only striker/forward we see come through the door.
It might just work, you never know.
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Post by baconburger on Jul 29, 2024 13:12:33 GMT
Needlessly over the top as usual. We need another body in up top and I doubt it'll be the only striker/forward we see come through the door. It might just work, you never know. Just enjoy the hysterics from both camps whilst it lasts.
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Post by ilikelamp on Jul 29, 2024 13:12:35 GMT
I bet Ipswich were paying more than 1.5m in January aswell🔴⚪️ 2 mill I think
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 29, 2024 13:12:52 GMT
Needlessly over the top as usual. We need another body in up top and I doubt it'll be the only striker/forward we see come through the door. It might just work, you never know. We don’t need another body. That was the rationale for Ennis. Which I could buy then because we were absolutely desperate. We need a striker to start games. We have bodies in Ennis, Mmaee and Tezgel.
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Post by stokiejoe89 on Jul 29, 2024 13:13:05 GMT
People still don't seem to realise that when a player leaves a club..suddenly all fans of that club do is slate that player. Means absolutely fuck all. A player should always be judged on what he does for YOU not other clubs. They clearly don’t like him. Look at them with him and then look at them with Szmodics. They clearly just don’t think he’s very good. Look at our lot with Leris. He is actually terrible and people are sad to see him go! It doesn't matter what they think. Just because it didn't work for him there doesn't mean it won't here. I don't know if it will, but we will find out. There is thousands of examples in football even at the very highest level of players not being brilliant at one club before moving and them finding huge success. That on it's own is enough to just give someone a chance
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Post by bertiestan on Jul 29, 2024 13:13:35 GMT
Just check to see how many his partners have scored during that time?🔴⚪️ 22 Assist in his whole championship career would say he's more ineffective at setting his team mates up. Unless of course your suggesting he deserves credit because he was simply on the pitch whilst his teammates scored is simply ridiculous No not at all…it was a genuine question, not as good as I’d have thought. I will give him the benefit of the doubt and support him and hope he does the business for us👍🏻🔴⚪️
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 29, 2024 13:13:59 GMT
They clearly don’t like him. Look at them with him and then look at them with Szmodics. They clearly just don’t think he’s very good. Look at our lot with Leris. He is actually terrible and people are sad to see him go! It doesn't matter what they think. Just because it didn't work for him there doesn't mean it won't here. I don't know if it will, but we will find out. There is thousands of examples in football even at the very highest level of players not being brilliant at one club before moving and them finding huge success. That on it's own is enough to just give someone a chance Of course it matters, they’ve watched him the most.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2024 13:14:21 GMT
I don't get the very basic comparisons with Ipswich? Every team recruits for a different system. Ipswich had two really good #10s that were playing pretty much as a second striker (Chaplin and Broadhead) that you could see working with a big, mobile striker. They were recruiting to replace the injured George Hirst.
We don't play the same way do we?
We have two #8s that don't get that much in advance of a big striker, or any striker. Our closest players to a big striker are going to be Million and Bae.
So how do we see this working given the Blackburn podcast a few pages back reckon he isn't any good as a back to goal forward, which you'd think would dovetail with two inverted wide men? They themselves reckon he's better out wide.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 29, 2024 13:14:58 GMT
I just can’t see a formation where he fits into the way Schumacher wants to play. Not saying he’s shit but seems an odd type to go for
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Post by LankyPotter on Jul 29, 2024 13:15:16 GMT
We just don’t learn do we - spunking a decent wedge of our budget on a lower tier championship striker; at best.
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Post by lordb on Jul 29, 2024 13:15:47 GMT
You have to be realistic and it's weird really. It's a lot of money for him yet at the same time it's not a lot of money for a forward in this league. It's 1M less than what we paid for Jacob Brown years ago so like with Leris, you have to temper your expectations on what we're going to see from him. At the end of the day, 1.5M at this level just buys you a warm body to throw at the problem and hope it sticks. I'm disappointed it's come to this but there you go. It's really underwhelming but it is what it is and we'll support him no doubt. It's frustrating seeing 500k on Ennis, 1.5M on Gallagher and another 1M on Gooch. It's dead money ultimately but I suppose it's not our money. £750k on Gooch all these fees are very small beer however of the 3 I only rate Gooch & appreciate a lot don't Hoping Gallagher proves me wrong
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Post by baconburger on Jul 29, 2024 13:17:06 GMT
I just can’t see a formation where he fits into the way Schumacher wants to play. Not saying he’s shit but seems an odd type to go for Surely the "Hardie" role??
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