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Post by cheekymatt71 on Sept 25, 2024 10:40:00 GMT
Got to be honest Ive never liked Walters ever since he started posting about the Tories on his social media and how they are best for the country because of lower taxes etc blah blah blah.
Fair enough if you want to share ur political ideology to a wider audience due to you being a rich football player. But for me it just showed him as a bit of an arrogant self-centred show-off.
If you are rich of course you want lower taxes - but maybe better not shout it out loud and keep it to yourself ?!?!
Think hes a bit of a twat meself
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Sept 25, 2024 10:41:12 GMT
I think we are pretty much saddled with Walters for many seasons or until JC moves on. Walters is JC's man. I am still baffled as to how he got the job. No coaching experience, 6 months at Fleetwood ffs and some turns on the media. How the hell does that qualify him for such an extremely important role. Why he fired Dublin who had delivered with some saleable assets from overseas we will never know and why he fired SS will also remain a mystery. The DOF is the best model and arguably the most important role in the club. So why the hell did we recruit Ricky a buddy of the manager and Walters a complete rookie? We are one of the richest clubs we could have paid big bucks to get in a stellar DOF with lots of coaching and recruiting experience in the UK and Europe. His contacts would help recruitment. At the moment all Walters can recruit are players from Ireland. I can see many years of championship mediocrity ahead I hope you're wrong. I fear you are not...
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Post by baconburger on Sept 25, 2024 11:32:08 GMT
I’ve been a big Walters fan ever since he first wore the stripes. And he started off well in his current role. Since he sacked SS though, I can’t even stand to look at his face. Walters is not to be trusted. It's clear he was working behind SS back to get rid. I've go no time for someone who would rob his team mates. Character.
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Post by baconburger on Sept 25, 2024 11:50:05 GMT
Got to be honest Ive never liked Walters ever since he started posting about the Tories on his social media and how they are best for the country because of lower taxes etc blah blah blah. Fair enough if you want to share ur political ideology to a wider audience due to you being a rich football player. But for me it just showed him as a bit of an arrogant self-centred show-off. If you are rich of course you want lower taxes - but maybe better not shout it out loud and keep it to yourself ?!?! Think hes a bit of a twat meself I'd agree there are numerous examples of shit behaviour at Blackburn, at Ipswich when he wanted to come to Stoke, at Stoke when he wanted a new contract and his treatment of JD and SS since coming back here as TD/SD. A definite smile in your face whist stabbing you in the back character. His excuse for his thieving from team mates at Blackburn is also very telling. Because his Daddy never went to watch him play football. Personally I'd be far more ashamed of coming out with such crap than the act itself. Many Stoke fans seem to love him but I've never understood it, he was a fairly poor player who worked hard to make the most of what he had. Not big enough to be a CF not quick enough to be a winger not skilful or clinical enough for either. Count your fingers after shaking his hand.
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Post by bagnallboothen on Sept 25, 2024 14:25:52 GMT
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Post by mks1958 on Sept 25, 2024 16:27:08 GMT
Full of himself with very little reason
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Post by foxysgloves on Sept 25, 2024 16:59:51 GMT
Lots of stuff. Hard hitting stuff? Or just stuff? Good stuff? Bad stuff? Stufflepuff? made up stuff , the only one proven is the theft at blackburn When he was a kid. Luckily people who do stupid things as kids usually get a chance to show they learned their lesson.
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Post by stokefc on Sept 25, 2024 17:08:07 GMT
Pej has it nailed… “ pick the best players that you’ve got available in their best roles in a system that suits them and (the squad) is balanced. It’s as simple as that. ” Yes. It really is. I think Walter’s knew SS wouldn’t do that. He wasn’t doing that. I’ll predict JW will be proved right by January. I think Pej thinks Walters is a bit of a cunt or so i heard , lets hope he proves him wrong though i won't hold my breath
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Post by owdestokie2 on Sept 25, 2024 17:33:58 GMT
Talk about character assignation from some people who:
1. Who have heard something from somebody
2. Post nothing more than groundless conjecture
3. Repeatedly post personal vindictive opinion whilst trying to convince others.
4. Have no knowledge what so ever about behind the scenes football management.
Can’t they see they are simply being divisive, or is that their aim?
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Post by premieraj on Sept 25, 2024 17:39:08 GMT
Talk about character assignation from some people who: 1. Who have heard something from somebody 2. Post nothing more than groundless conjecture 3. Repeatedly post personal vindictive opinion whilst trying to convince others. 4. Have no knowledge what so ever about behind the scenes football management. Can’t they see they are simply being divisive, or is that their aim? Completely agree!
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Post by Clayton Wood on Sept 25, 2024 17:41:05 GMT
'bring clarity to what is demanded from first team players in terms of tactics and approach' Which infers there was no clarity under the previous HC? Pretty damning words, but with the comfort of knowing there will be no right of reply.
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Post by bagnallboothen on Sept 25, 2024 17:47:42 GMT
Talk about character assignation from some people who: 1. Who have heard something from somebody 2. Post nothing more than groundless conjecture 3. Repeatedly post personal vindictive opinion whilst trying to convince others. 4. Have no knowledge what so ever about behind the scenes football management. Can’t they see they are simply being divisive, or is that their aim? It's called opinions. Maybe he should keep his head down for a week and focus his attention on the next 10 days which have 3 huge games in them. People are fed up of reading the same drivel and he's only been in post 7 months.
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Post by baconburger on Sept 25, 2024 17:52:09 GMT
Talk about character assignation from some people who: 1. Who have heard something from somebody 2. Post nothing more than groundless conjecture 3. Repeatedly post personal vindictive opinion whilst trying to convince others. 4. Have no knowledge what so ever about behind the scenes football management. Can’t they see they are simply being divisive, or is that their aim? How are they being divisive if they have conflicting opinions to yourself what is there to divide??
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Post by Pugsley on Sept 25, 2024 18:53:02 GMT
I've no idea why people are moaning about Jon Walters. He's doing the job he was brought in to do.
Perhaps his air of confidence is unnerving people.
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Post by Olgrligm on Sept 25, 2024 19:23:15 GMT
I don't see why there has to be a falling out behind the scenes for Schumacher to get sacked. I wouldn't have made the call myself, but there was plenty of stuff on the pitch this season and last to justify the decision.
Same with Dublin. I'd have given him the benefit of the doubt, but the players he identified led us into a relegation battle and behind-the-scenes problem. A lot of money was invested in players that he identified and we still had to supplement the squad with budget signings from the manager's notebook. Will we turn a serious profit on any of them? Mmaee and Vidigal have gone the way of N'Diaye, Bauer, Imbula, Etebo and others. I hope that he'll come good under a new manager, but at current form I think we would struggle to break even on Burger. We really, really need Junho to regain some form, too.
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Post by ceejays on Sept 25, 2024 20:00:13 GMT
I don't see why there has to be a falling out behind the scenes for Schumacher to get sacked. I wouldn't have made the call myself, but there was plenty of stuff on the pitch this season and last to justify the decision. Same with Dublin. I'd have given him the benefit of the doubt, but the players he identified led us into a relegation battle and behind-the-scenes problem. A lot of money was invested in players that he identified and we still had to supplement the squad with budget signings from the manager's notebook. Will we turn a serious profit on any of them? Mmaee and Vidigal have gone the way of N'Diaye, Bauer, Imbula, Etebo and others. I hope that he'll come good under a new manager, but at current form I think we would struggle to break even on Burger. We really, really need Junho to regain some form, too. What complete codswallop . Dublin was responsible for 7 possibly 8 out of 21 buys . As for SS try working with your boss overlooking your shoulder all the time and sticking his oar in , Try it
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Post by kevkj on Sept 25, 2024 20:22:10 GMT
Lets be honest ive been baffled by SS. Not changing the tacticts at Watford and Gooch at No 10 at Oxford and no Philips.
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Post by questionable on Sept 25, 2024 20:24:53 GMT
Got to be honest Ive never liked Walters ever since he started posting about the Tories on his social media and how they are best for the country because of lower taxes etc blah blah blah. Fair enough if you want to share ur political ideology to a wider audience due to you being a rich football player. But for me it just showed him as a bit of an arrogant self-centred show-off. If you are rich of course you want lower taxes - but maybe better not shout it out loud and keep it to yourself ?!?! Think hes a bit of a twat meself Can’t recall him ever promoting Stoke plenty of Everton stuff and giving boots away. Sent him a few messages on X but never got a single reply nor a like.
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Post by Gods on Sept 25, 2024 20:30:42 GMT
I've no idea why people are moaning about Jon Walters. He's doing the job he was brought in to do. Perhaps his air of confidence is unnerving people. I think people are moaning because we are 17th and the 3rd lowest scorers in the league. If we were 3rd and the 3rd highest scorers in the league then the sun would shine out of Walters posterior.
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Post by cheadlestokie on Sept 25, 2024 20:34:59 GMT
'bring clarity to what is demanded from first team players in terms of tactics and approach'Which infers there was no clarity under the previous HC? Pretty damning words, but with the comfort of knowing there will be no right of reply. Bringing clarity to what is expected of them tactically and generally by the current Coach Not criticism of the previous coach. Why do people seem to prefer to put a negative slant on any statement?
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Post by onionman on Sept 25, 2024 20:58:58 GMT
I've no idea why people are moaning about Jon Walters. He's doing the job he was brought in to do. Perhaps his air of confidence is unnerving people. This from the bloke who was relentlessly critical of the management every week when we were actually doing well.
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Post by Clayton Wood on Sept 25, 2024 21:04:03 GMT
'bring clarity to what is demanded from first team players in terms of tactics and approach'Which infers there was no clarity under the previous HC? Pretty damning words, but with the comfort of knowing there will be no right of reply. Bringing clarity to what is expected of them tactically and generally by the current Coach Not criticism of the previous coach. Why do people seem to prefer to put a negative slant on any statement? Context. He'd sacked the previous coach 9 days previously.
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Post by spitthedog on Sept 25, 2024 22:33:49 GMT
'bring clarity to what is demanded from first team players in terms of tactics and approach'Which infers there was no clarity under the previous HC? Pretty damning words, but with the comfort of knowing there will be no right of reply. What do you want? a referendum!!! I'm sorry but there ain't half some absolute drivel being posted on here atm. I get it that people have got it in him for him, but some of the conspiracy like nonsense being posted day after day on here is just getting a bit ridiculous and obsessive.
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Post by nottsover60 on Sept 26, 2024 0:11:18 GMT
'bring clarity to what is demanded from first team players in terms of tactics and approach'Which infers there was no clarity under the previous HC? Pretty damning words, but with the comfort of knowing there will be no right of reply. A fine example of a quote taken totally out of context to try to make a point. Walters was actually talking about recruitment since Pulis left and saying something which I would imagine 90% of fans have been saying. Starting with Mark Hughes the owners have been very generous to managers, allowing them to spend a lot of money on players who haven't fitted in and who have been a burden on the club for three or four years. His job is to decide how the club should be playing, and therefore what the profile of first team players should be. He also chooses head coaches whose principles fit in with the way the the club want to play and can use the players in the way for which they were bought . It means that if a HC leaves or is sacked, the club are not left with a squad which does not suit the next coach's tactics. There is nothing critical of SS, just the haphazard way in which the club has recruited in the last ten years.
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Post by owdestokie2 on Sept 26, 2024 3:49:08 GMT
I've no idea why people are moaning about Jon Walters. He's doing the job he was brought in to do. Perhaps his air of confidence is unnerving people. I think people are moaning because we are 17th and the 3rd lowest scorers in the league. If we were 3rd and the 3rd highest scorers in the league then the sun would shine out of Walters posterior. I’m afraid Gods there would be a small minority who would fade into the background and simply wait for any opportunity (like any sniper) to re-ignite their own personal vendetta’s against someone who they have probably never met, never had any dealings with and don’t have a clue of what goes on behind the scenes. That’s the top and bottom of it.
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Post by owdestokie2 on Sept 26, 2024 3:54:48 GMT
Talk about character assignation from some people who: 1. Who have heard something from somebody 2. Post nothing more than groundless conjecture 3. Repeatedly post personal vindictive opinion whilst trying to convince others. 4. Have no knowledge what so ever about behind the scenes football management. Can’t they see they are simply being divisive, or is that their aim? How are they being divisive if they have conflicting opinions to yourself what is there to divide?? Just out of interest how many posts have you made on this thread? All with the same purpose.
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Post by owdestokie2 on Sept 26, 2024 4:00:52 GMT
Talk about character assignation from some people who: 1. Who have heard something from somebody 2. Post nothing more than groundless conjecture 3. Repeatedly post personal vindictive opinion whilst trying to convince others. 4. Have no knowledge what so ever about behind the scenes football management. Can’t they see they are simply being divisive, or is that their aim? It's called opinions. Maybe he should keep his head down for a week and focus his attention on the next 10 days which have 3 huge games in them. People are fed up of reading the same drivel and he's only been in post 7 months. Here’s an opinion for you
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Post by rowleyscfc on Sept 26, 2024 5:41:38 GMT
We went in a box for my grandads 90th, he has been going since he was about 8/9 and only stopped a few year ago due to dementia, so I made a little tweet about it and the club put something on for us:
Jonny Walters come to the box before kick off and give my grandad a card off the club had a good 5 minutes conversation with us all, and even consoled my Nanna who got fairly emotional for the fuss the club had made of him.
So whilst everyone's experience of a person is obviously different but having a read through this thread there's a lot of hearsay so thought i'd give my first hand experience, His job is too make big calls and unfortunately a good bloke and manager has felt the brunt of that
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Post by Olgrligm on Sept 26, 2024 6:08:28 GMT
I don't see why there has to be a falling out behind the scenes for Schumacher to get sacked. I wouldn't have made the call myself, but there was plenty of stuff on the pitch this season and last to justify the decision. Same with Dublin. I'd have given him the benefit of the doubt, but the players he identified led us into a relegation battle and behind-the-scenes problem. A lot of money was invested in players that he identified and we still had to supplement the squad with budget signings from the manager's notebook. Will we turn a serious profit on any of them? Mmaee and Vidigal have gone the way of N'Diaye, Bauer, Imbula, Etebo and others. I hope that he'll come good under a new manager, but at current form I think we would struggle to break even on Burger. We really, really need Junho to regain some form, too. What complete codswallop . Dublin was responsible for 7 possibly 8 out of 21 buys . As for SS try working with your boss overlooking your shoulder all the time and sticking his oar in , Try it The majority of the budget was spent on the Dublin buys, and I don't think 'the Head of Recruitment wasn't involved in most of the players we brought last summer' is a line of argument that does Dublin any favours whatsoever. Why did we need to rely on manager-identified bargain signings to fill key positions?
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Post by mtrstudent on Sept 26, 2024 7:22:07 GMT
Did something annoy you in that article? Honestly thought that looked fine. For me the worries are wtf happened with Jared and Schuey.
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