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Post by ceejays on Jul 25, 2024 14:26:25 GMT
Some will say he’s inexperienced. Some will say he’s learning on the job . Some will say he’s a control freak . Some will say he’s the recruitment guru now ( Gibson ) Some will say he’s doing fine . For me I still can’t get my head around Dublins departure. Burger Junho Manhoef Bocat . Ok s couple of perhaps duds (jojic but young and jury still out ) . He may have been a maverick . He may have been outspoken internally . Who knows ? But I foresee no diamonds being unearthed by the Hull chap . Verdict everyone ?
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Post by stiggerstackle on Jul 25, 2024 14:29:14 GMT
We'll need to see the case for the defence which can only be presented at the end of the transfer window, my learned friend.
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Jul 25, 2024 14:31:52 GMT
All I'll say is, he better get it right, WHEN, or if, we start getting players in, cuz at the moment, we're looking no better than last season.... Over to you Jon boy!!!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2024 14:33:04 GMT
I think that it’s impossible to say until the end of the season.
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Post by professorplump on Jul 25, 2024 14:33:49 GMT
Usually you reach a verdict at the end of the trial not halfway through.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2024 14:35:35 GMT
End of the season at the earliest before we can form any judgement IMO.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 25, 2024 14:36:36 GMT
Way too soon.
I’m still at glorified cheerleader.
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Post by noustie on Jul 25, 2024 14:39:34 GMT
The window is a pain in the arse really - there's always a flurry of activity at the start with a few 'done deals'. This is followed by a prolonged period of 'phony window' where everyone is hedging their bets meaning pre-season is almost pointless as teams are always trying to move some on/ bring some in. As the season starts, and reality hits on who is really interested in whom, with a couple of results in the bag then there is a surge of activity and another period of the team playing like strangers.
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Post by stiggerstackle on Jul 25, 2024 14:42:00 GMT
The window is a pain in the arse really - there's always a flurry of activity at the start with a few 'done deals'. This is followed by a prolonged period of 'phony window' where everyone is hedging their bets meaning pre-season is almost pointless as teams are always trying to move some on/ bring some in. As the season starts, and reality hits on who is really interested in whom, with a couple of results in the bag then there is a surge of activity and another period of the team playing like strangers. Completely agree - the window should close prior to the season starting. |
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Jul 25, 2024 14:44:03 GMT
Some will say he’s inexperienced. Some will say he’s learning on the job . Some will say he’s a control freak . Some will say he’s the recruitment guru now ( Gibson ) Some will say he’s doing fine . For me I still can’t get my head around Dublins departure. Burger Junho Manhoef Bocat . Ok s couple of perhaps duds (jojic but young and jury still out ) . He may have been a maverick . He may have been outspoken internally . Who knows ? But I foresee no diamonds being unearthed by the Hull chap . Verdict everyone ? Some will say you know no more than the rest of us. Did you really need to write this? |
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jul 25, 2024 14:48:54 GMT
Completely misses the point without him replacing Martin when he did wed be in league one now .
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Post by thornestein on Jul 25, 2024 14:50:12 GMT
End of the season at the earliest before we can form any judgement IMO. maybe feb next year , but still far to early yet |
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Post by ceejays on Jul 25, 2024 14:51:36 GMT
The title of the thread is SO FAR and there is enough evidence to make a judgment on . Gibson is clearly an SJW appointment. We then get Huth and Whelan rocking up in Riccardos . We get Shawcross appointment. We get Jared departure which to me is saying I’m not having anyone from the old regime . Really ? We have various links to players from either fleetwood or Burnley that he has knowledge of Enough there to make a SO FAR judgement. To me he’s surrounding himself with yes men . Is that a good thing ? Not in my experience. Every company needs the odd maverick . Just have to manage them
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Post by pulismaskreplica on Jul 25, 2024 14:51:40 GMT
Some will say he’s inexperienced. Some will say he’s learning on the job . Some will say he’s a control freak . Some will say he’s the recruitment guru now ( Gibson ) Some will say he’s doing fine . For me I still can’t get my head around Dublins departure. Burger Junho Manhoef Bocat . Ok s couple of perhaps duds (jojic but young and jury still out ) . He may have been a maverick . He may have been outspoken internally . Who knows ? But I foresee no diamonds being unearthed by the Hull chap . Verdict everyone ? I attended the fans forum or whatever it was called the other month and Walters comes across well and well intentioned I think. I’m gutted about Stoke cutting Jared so early… one season and then bye bye seems short sighted to me. Hopefully Johnny Boy will be the business because I believe his heart is in the right place and he wants to do a top job for us |
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Post by stokie23 on Jul 25, 2024 15:09:50 GMT
Some will say he’s inexperienced. Some will say he’s learning on the job . Some will say he’s a control freak . Some will say he’s the recruitment guru now ( Gibson ) Some will say he’s doing fine . For me I still can’t get my head around Dublins departure. Burger Junho Manhoef Bocat . Ok s couple of perhaps duds (jojic but young and jury still out ) . He may have been a maverick . He may have been outspoken internally . Who knows ? But I foresee no diamonds being unearthed by the Hull chap . Verdict everyone ? How come the better players we've brought in have been solely down to Dublin whilst the 'jury's still out' the atrocious signings...it's just confirmation bias. I know for a fact that Manhoef wasn't a Dublin find. |
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Post by emretezzy on Jul 25, 2024 15:12:35 GMT
Disappointed we got rid of Jared.
He got a rendition of the 'new manager' bounce.
We have to start well.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jul 25, 2024 15:27:20 GMT
Way too early to judge. If he's trying to build a new culture around the place he needs time.....
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jul 25, 2024 15:55:43 GMT
Pointless thread, we won't be able to judge him until we have something to judge him on.
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Post by lordb on Jul 25, 2024 16:16:34 GMT
So far so good imo
However still way too early
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Jul 25, 2024 16:33:40 GMT
Bloody hell some serious short term memory loss on here. When he took over relegation was very much on the cards and he was instrumental in rallying the troops and we stayed up. When he came in he had one job to do- stave off relegation. He did that so the verdict so far is 10 out of 10.
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Post by foxysgloves on Jul 25, 2024 16:40:24 GMT
End of the season at the earliest before we can form any judgement IMO. This. It’s impossible to know. If he’s to achieve his brief of turning around our oil tanker heading for the rocks then it will take time. Some signs are positive, some less so but if we can have a steady season with a sneaky tilt at top 6 I’ll be happy. If we get ourselves embroiled in another relegation battle then alarm bells will ring. |
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Post by ceejays on Jul 25, 2024 16:47:25 GMT
Completely misses the point without him replacing Martin when he did wed be in league one now . That’s obviously true but not the point of the thread . There is enough evidence to suggest he is a control freak . Surrounding himself with yes men . Moving Jared on . The purpose of the thread is SO FAR . Not to then have people saying wait till the end of the season . The guy obviously has our best interests at heart . He is not got bullshit coming out of his mouth as with Martin . So is the culture he is creating one we agree with or not ? Imho you need a maverick in the ranks . Keeps everyone on their toes . Debate |
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Jul 25, 2024 16:50:58 GMT
He will do OK so long that he realises Shuy is the one in charge,after all its his head on the chopping block.
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Post by foxysgloves on Jul 25, 2024 16:53:41 GMT
Completely misses the point without him replacing Martin when he did wed be in league one now . That’s obviously true but not the point of the thread . There is enough evidence to suggest he is a control freak . Surrounding himself with yes men . Moving Jared on . The purpose of the thread is SO FAR . Not to then have people saying wait till the end of the season . The guy obviously has our best interests at heart . He is not got bullshit coming out of his mouth as with Martin . So is the culture he is creating one we agree with or not ? Imho you need a maverick in the ranks . Keeps everyone on their toes . Debate Enough evidence to suggest he’s a control freak?!!? Errrrr no there isn’t. There’s conjecture and speculation. If we’re going down that road there’s also enough evidence to suggest he’s a motivational genius who can inspire coaches and players to rescue a season heading for disaster. In terms of actual evidence he looks like he can pull a nice pint of Guinness. |
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Post by mickstupp on Jul 25, 2024 16:59:14 GMT
Completely misses the point without him replacing Martin when he did wed be in league one now . That’s obviously true but not the point of the thread . There is enough evidence to suggest he is a control freak . Surrounding himself with yes men . Moving Jared on . The purpose of the thread is SO FAR . Not to then have people saying wait till the end of the season . The guy obviously has our best interests at heart . He is not got bullshit coming out of his mouth as with Martin . So is the culture he is creating one we agree with or not ? Imho you need a maverick in the ranks . Keeps everyone on their toes . Debate Who are the “yes men” he’s surrounded himself with? |
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Post by werrington on Jul 25, 2024 17:05:58 GMT
Completely misses the point without him replacing Martin when he did wed be in league one now . That’s obviously true but not the point of the thread . There is enough evidence to suggest he is a control freak . Surrounding himself with yes men . Moving Jared on . The purpose of the thread is SO FAR . Not to then have people saying wait till the end of the season . The guy obviously has our best interests at heart . He is not got bullshit coming out of his mouth as with Martin . So is the culture he is creating one we agree with or not ? Imho you need a maverick in the ranks . Keeps everyone on their toes . Debate Let’s see the evidence then |
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Post by LGH87 on Jul 25, 2024 17:06:01 GMT
So far he’s not managed to shift any of the deadwood out, which is a negative. Did anyone seriously think DJ for instance would still be here as we approach the start of August?
The three early signings were great and all should improve us however it is concerning that we’ve had nothing since and we seem to be fishing in the same pool as clubs like Sheff Utd and Cov who are more attractive propositions than us.
I hope I’m wrong and would love to see another left field signing or two over the next week or so.
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Post by Abdoulaye25 on Jul 25, 2024 17:06:46 GMT
He deserves credit for last season, but the fact a DoF can have such an influence on the team says more about how bad/toxic Martin was.
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Post by pushon on Jul 25, 2024 17:12:01 GMT
He will do OK so long that he realises Shuy is the one in charge,after all its his head on the chopping block. Schumacher in charge?? I assume that the 'Head Coach' reports to the Technical Director and not the other way around. Surely the titles 'Coach' and 'Director' suggest that my supposition is correct? Or doesn't modern-day-management work like that 🥴 |
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Post by HarryTheHat on Jul 25, 2024 17:14:47 GMT
Some will say he’s inexperienced. Some will say he’s learning on the job . Some will say he’s a control freak . Some will say he’s the recruitment guru now ( Gibson ) Some will say he’s doing fine . For me I still can’t get my head around Dublins departure. Burger Junho Manhoef Bocat . Ok s couple of perhaps duds (jojic but young and jury still out ) . He may have been a maverick . He may have been outspoken internally . Who knows ? But I foresee no diamonds being unearthed by the Hull chap . Verdict everyone ? How come the better players we've brought in have been solely down to Dublin whilst the 'jury's still out' the atrocious signings...it's just confirmation bias. I know for a fact that Manhoef wasn't a Dublin find. Also it's a bit premature to be praising Bocat - the lad's done nowt yet |
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