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Post by thehartshillbadger on Apr 26, 2024 19:38:52 GMT
Anything less than 3 points from the last 2 games will mark a worse return than Neil I think? Either way, he isn't the man to drive us forward. I was thinking more let’s what see he can do with a full pre season and a transfer kitty tbh mate. I want him to succeed, who doesn’t? |
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Post by banksy1art on Apr 26, 2024 19:43:10 GMT
Can’t wait for him to shut some of you miserable cunts up
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Apr 26, 2024 19:43:50 GMT
Anything less than 3 points from the last 2 games will mark a worse return than Neil I think? Either way, he isn't the man to drive us forward. I was thinking more let’s what see he can do with a full pre season and a transfer kitty tbh mate. I want him to succeed, who doesn’t? We need him to succeed so badly. |
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Apr 26, 2024 19:50:01 GMT
Can’t wait for him to shut some of you miserable cunts up I don't think it's unreasonable to question whether hes right to take us forward. He's made a poor couple of signings, raised eyebrows with tactics frequently and we've been largely not very good since he's taken over hence we are still in a relegation fight with two games to go. It's just being realistic about where we are, the situation is miserable, not the viewpoint. He's obviously not going to get sacked before next season and is going to get the backing that those before him had, but he'll need to demonstrate clear improvement by the end of September otherwise he's done. We all want him to succeed but blind faith is just dumb based on the past 7 years or so. |
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Post by citynickscfc on Apr 26, 2024 19:51:25 GMT
This thread is still too early for me. 2 weeks too early
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Apr 26, 2024 19:57:36 GMT
Can’t wait for him to shut some of you miserable cunts up I don't think it's unreasonable to question whether hes right to take us forward. He's made a poor couple of signings, raised eyebrows with tactics frequently and we've been largely not very good since he's taken over hence we are still in a relegation fight with two games to go. It's just being realistic about where we are, the situation is miserable, not the viewpoint. He's obviously not going to get sacked before next season and is going to get the backing that those before him had, but he'll need to demonstrate clear improvement by the end of September otherwise he's done. We all want him to succeed but blind faith is just dumb based on the past 7 years or so. I think he’s had a rude awakening coming into a club with expectations and an awful squad. He’s struggled for sure but I’ve seen enough to think he’s learning week on week almost. Nobody wants the Stoke job, we have to be one of the least attractive propositions for a manager reputation wise. I’ve decided I’m going to buckle up and look forward to next season which tbh I haven’t done for a good few seasons |
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Apr 26, 2024 20:05:18 GMT
I don't think it's unreasonable to question whether hes right to take us forward. He's made a poor couple of signings, raised eyebrows with tactics frequently and we've been largely not very good since he's taken over hence we are still in a relegation fight with two games to go. It's just being realistic about where we are, the situation is miserable, not the viewpoint. He's obviously not going to get sacked before next season and is going to get the backing that those before him had, but he'll need to demonstrate clear improvement by the end of September otherwise he's done. We all want him to succeed but blind faith is just dumb based on the past 7 years or so. I think he’s had a rude awakening coming into a club with expectations and an awful squad. He’s struggled for sure but I’ve seen enough to think he’s learning week on week almost. Nobody wants the Stoke job, we have to be one of the least attractive propositions for a manager reputation wise. I’ve decided I’m going to buckle up and look forward to next season which tbh I haven’t done for a good few seasons Fair enough mate, it's great while it lasts during the summer. I gave it a go after Lambert went for a few seasons but the disappointment after the first few games of a new season is hard to take 💔 Don't disagree he's inherited a lot of shit. But adding to that shit with the likes of Ennis isn't doing him any favours. Let's just hope that was a one off mistake. |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Apr 26, 2024 20:09:42 GMT
I think he’s had a rude awakening coming into a club with expectations and an awful squad. He’s struggled for sure but I’ve seen enough to think he’s learning week on week almost. Nobody wants the Stoke job, we have to be one of the least attractive propositions for a manager reputation wise. I’ve decided I’m going to buckle up and look forward to next season which tbh I haven’t done for a good few seasons Fair enough mate, it's great while it lasts during the summer. I gave it a go after Lambert went for a few seasons but the disappointment after the first few games of a new season is hard to take 💔 Don't disagree he's inherited a lot of shit. But adding to that shit with the likes of Ennis isn't doing him any favours. Let's just hope that was a one off mistake. I’m no happy clapper, I chucked my season ticket in 2019. The refusal to sure up the defence in the transfer window was a massive dereliction of duty but how much say did he have? I feel that will be the very first thing he looks at in the summer and so he should. Signing the likes of Ennis when you’re screaming out for defenders was at best deluded by whoever was in charge of transfers |
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Post by thornestein on Apr 26, 2024 20:11:23 GMT
Can’t wait for him to shut some of you miserable cunts up you’ve said similar for last 2 managers before him , that didn’t work out well |
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Apr 26, 2024 20:11:50 GMT
Fair enough mate, it's great while it lasts during the summer. I gave it a go after Lambert went for a few seasons but the disappointment after the first few games of a new season is hard to take 💔 Don't disagree he's inherited a lot of shit. But adding to that shit with the likes of Ennis isn't doing him any favours. Let's just hope that was a one off mistake. I’m no happy clapper, I chucked my season ticket in 2019. The refusal to sure up the defence in the transfer window was a massive dereliction of duty but how much say did he have? I feel that will be the very first thing he looks at in the summer and so he should. Signing the likes of Ennis when you’re screaming out for defenders was at best deluded by whoever was in charge of transfers Indeed. |
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Apr 26, 2024 21:03:00 GMT
I don't think it's unreasonable to question whether hes right to take us forward. He's made a poor couple of signings, raised eyebrows with tactics frequently and we've been largely not very good since he's taken over hence we are still in a relegation fight with two games to go. It's just being realistic about where we are, the situation is miserable, not the viewpoint. He's obviously not going to get sacked before next season and is going to get the backing that those before him had, but he'll need to demonstrate clear improvement by the end of September otherwise he's done. We all want him to succeed but blind faith is just dumb based on the past 7 years or so. I think he’s had a rude awakening coming into a club with expectations and an awful squad. He’s struggled for sure but I’ve seen enough to think he’s learning week on week almost. Nobody wants the Stoke job, we have to be one of the least attractive propositions for a manager reputation wise. I’ve decided I’m going to buckle up and look forward to next season which tbh I haven’t done for a good few seasons To be fair I'm looking forward to see what Schumacher can do next season too. Got a good feeling for the first time in yonks. As long as these next 2 games go okay. I've even bought a ticket for Southampton tomorrow as I have this feeling we're going to get that point we need to make certain 🙏 |
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Post by foxysgloves on Apr 26, 2024 21:43:19 GMT
Can’t wait for him to shut some of you miserable cunts up you’ve said similar for last 2 managers before him , that didn’t work out well Yeah…bang out of order….a Stoke supporter hoping for a Stoke manager to be successful. |
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Post by lordb on Apr 26, 2024 21:45:03 GMT
Fair enough mate, it's great while it lasts during the summer. I gave it a go after Lambert went for a few seasons but the disappointment after the first few games of a new season is hard to take 💔 Don't disagree he's inherited a lot of shit. But adding to that shit with the likes of Ennis isn't doing him any favours. Let's just hope that was a one off mistake. I’m no happy clapper, I chucked my season ticket in 2019. The refusal to sure up the defence in the transfer window was a massive dereliction of duty but how much say did he have? I feel that will be the very first thing he looks at in the summer and so he should. Signing the likes of Ennis when you’re screaming out for defenders was at best deluded by whoever was in charge of transfers Yes that's why the person in charge of transfers was sacked |
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Post by thepottereye on Apr 26, 2024 23:21:47 GMT
He is a Blagger who will get sacked around October / November time.
He has 44 game’s experience as a player / manager in the championship and jumped a sinking ship to come to us. I wish him all the best for the future but is 120% the wrong manager for us at this time.
Next question
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Post by foxysgloves on Apr 26, 2024 23:35:16 GMT
He is a Blagger who will get sacked around October / November time. He has 44 game’s experience as a player / manager in the championship and jumped a sinking ship to come to us. I wish him all the best for the future but is 120% the wrong manager for us at this time. Next question 120% Your mathematical skills are on a par with your ability to judge a manager. |
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Post by thornestein on Apr 27, 2024 5:51:52 GMT
you’ve said similar for last 2 managers before him , that didn’t work out well Yeah…bang out of order….a Stoke supporter hoping for a Stoke manager to be successful. that’s the problem , you’re hoping they going be good when they’re actually doing a shit job |
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Post by boult on Apr 27, 2024 6:49:34 GMT
This can't be answered in isolation. Throw the players and board / management into the conversation, because all have a key role in success. If one doesn't perform, all don't perform.
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Post by foxysgloves on Apr 27, 2024 8:52:32 GMT
Yeah…bang out of order….a Stoke supporter hoping for a Stoke manager to be successful. that’s the problem , you’re hoping they going be good when they’re actually doing a shit job Or maybe the problem is you’re expecting them to suddenly transform a side that’s been gradually deteriorating since relegation. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2024 9:49:31 GMT
Anyone want to deny the indisputable fact that Schumacher is 3rd in the Championship table of managers at their current clubs, with a ppg of 1.72pts?
Maresca 2.02
McKenna 2.0
Schumacher 1.72
Carrick 1.67
For those without a calculator that 1.72 average gives 79pts, 5th place.
More agenda-driven bollocks 😉
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Post by professorplump on Apr 27, 2024 10:11:52 GMT
I was dubious about appointing Schumacher and was all for sacking him after the Blackburn and Cardiff defeats but it does seem that there has been a gradual upturn in performances since then, notwithstanding a couple of disastrous games along the way. Things definitely seem to have improved since Ricky Martin left and I get the feeling there was friction between him and the manager.
I believe Schumacher will be our manager at the start of next season however it is important that he starts well as otherwise I think things could turn against him quite quickly.
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Post by thornestein on Apr 27, 2024 10:17:05 GMT
Anyone want to deny the indisputable fact that Schumacher is 3rd in the Championship table of managers at their current clubs, with a ppg of 1.72pts? Maresca 2.02 McKenna 2.0 Schumacher 1.72 Carrick 1.67 For those without a calculator that 1.72 average gives 79pts, 5th place. More agenda-driven bollocks 😉 that’s over his whole career , not one season though so irrelevant |
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Post by cousindupree on Apr 27, 2024 10:39:42 GMT
He will be here next season thankfully as I like him. I shudder to think who the board would appoint if they got rid of SS. They have made horrendous appointments since sacking Mark Hughes. they would almost certainly go back to their de facto choice of a tired out of work championship manager.
The manager, as they all do, will live or die by his summer recruitment. The omens are worrying with his recruitment of Ennis and Cundle and with a rookie Walters involved I am not optimistic. They will need Dublin to come up with at least 4 more recruits of the calibre of Juno and Burger. If that happens it could be an interesting season.
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Post by nottsover60 on Apr 27, 2024 10:45:24 GMT
Fair enough mate, it's great while it lasts during the summer. I gave it a go after Lambert went for a few seasons but the disappointment after the first few games of a new season is hard to take 💔 Don't disagree he's inherited a lot of shit. But adding to that shit with the likes of Ennis isn't doing him any favours. Let's just hope that was a one off mistake. I’m no happy clapper, I chucked my season ticket in 2019. The refusal to sure up the defence in the transfer window was a massive dereliction of duty but how much say did he have? I feel that will be the very first thing he looks at in the summer and so he should. Signing the likes of Ennis when you’re screaming out for defenders was at best deluded by whoever was in charge of transfers Had we not signed Ennis though we would now only have one recognised senior striker with Lowe as a very inexperienced other option.( I am assuming that Wes is not training with the club anymore). As there was a cloud over Mmaee in January we had to bring in a cheap option as cover. |
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Post by independent on Apr 27, 2024 10:57:55 GMT
Anyone want to deny the indisputable fact that Schumacher is 3rd in the Championship table of managers at their current clubs, with a ppg of 1.72pts? Maresca 2.02 McKenna 2.0 Schumacher 1.72 Carrick 1.67 For those without a calculator that 1.72 average gives 79pts, 5th place. More agenda-driven bollocks 😉 At his current club he has a ppg of 1.21 which would give him 56 points over a season. And if we win our last 2 games we will actually finish on 56 points. I'm sure that everyone will be happy with that, this season and next? |
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Post by i1da on Apr 27, 2024 11:11:47 GMT
This thread should be titled "Schumacher - Your Opinion?" If you ask 28,000 Stokies this question you will get 25,000 different answers (I had to discount 3,000 for the guy on here with 3,000 usernames that posts the same stuff every day). The "Verdict" will be delivered by the owners, and we all know what that will be.
C'Mon Schuey's Red and White Army!
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Post by lordb on Apr 27, 2024 11:31:27 GMT
Anyone want to deny the indisputable fact that Schumacher is 3rd in the Championship table of managers at their current clubs, with a ppg of 1.72pts? Maresca 2.02 McKenna 2.0 Schumacher 1.72 Carrick 1.67 For those without a calculator that 1.72 average gives 79pts, 5th place. More agenda-driven bollocks 😉 At his current club he has a ppg of 1.21 which would give him 56 points over a season. And if we win our last 2 games we will actually finish on 56 points. I'm sure that everyone will be happy with that, this season and next? It's more points and a division higher than if we had kept AN Thats the initial job he was tasked to do so this season without being 'happy' he's done his job Next season no one will be happy with 56 points and absolutely no one is saying that Top 10 is a reasonable aim for next season as things stand |
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Post by stokesupporter on Apr 27, 2024 16:00:03 GMT
Steven has managed to turn us around. Can't wait for the next season!
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Post by foxysgloves on Apr 27, 2024 16:02:48 GMT
He’s delivering.
Three huge games.
7 points and only 1 goal conceded.
Able to rotate the squad effectively and getting the best out of fringe players.
He’s a keeper.
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Post by Waggy on Apr 27, 2024 16:03:52 GMT
I love you Schuey.
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Post by datguy on Apr 27, 2024 16:04:02 GMT
Days like today (and there's been a fair few of them to be fair) makes you think the man is more than good enough for the job.
Schumacher - I've criticised some of the decision-making quite heavily. I think there's been some shockers.
I must say though, the turnaround following (albeit his own shitting-the-bed) the mid-tenure shite we saw has been remarkable.
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