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Post by baconburger on Aug 27, 2024 20:20:29 GMT
Still don't like the system but some exciting players and nice patterns of play building between players we're hopefully going to get to see a lot of this season.
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Post by dirtygary69 on Aug 27, 2024 20:27:07 GMT
Aye, one thing playing all those players in the cup but will he do it in the league? They’ve proved they can do it, and you won’t get away with it every game, but there’s plenty of quality there. Makes Saturday’s set up all the worse, but if he’s learnt from it then we can move on. Maybe this was the game everyone needed, from manager to supporters. Even though it’s only the Carabao Cup 2nd round, a 5-0 away win is not something to be sniffed at, and to do it with the second string is even more impressive. Would hope a lot of them become first choices after that. Sidibe surely deserves to at least be in squads now.
Still need to strengthen in areas and get rid of the obvious ones, and maybe a couple more, but hopefully we can get the season off the ground now.
Well done. Terrific win.
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Post by figo85 on Aug 27, 2024 20:28:08 GMT
If he reverts back to the midfield he played on Saturday he pretty much deserves whatever comes to him. Fantastic today and they deserve the opportunity to do it in the league, surely.
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Post by Picasso on Aug 27, 2024 20:36:42 GMT
Best manager we’ve had for years but some clowns on here can’t accept that he’ll make mistakes as he’s only young! We are progressing as a club. Manager and players. Get off their backs and get behind your team! Yes and on that note maybe we can all give this thread a rest for a few days. This thread usually gets a rest after a win. Quite refreshing that it’s been brought up and it’s not after a loss!
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Post by alsager58 on Aug 27, 2024 20:38:52 GMT
Please Please can all the Shuey and SJW doubters come out to play tonight and lets nail you all, I guess your all under the rock where you belong up the Vale, so exciting tonight loved it, keep going Schuey top man. Shuey doubters please dont come back with negativity about Saturday if the two efforts from Koumas had gone in different story.
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Post by alsager58 on Aug 27, 2024 20:43:47 GMT
If we can get another striker as Ryan up front is not the man he cannot close down and hes not sharp enough hardly touched the ball first half, plus lets get Cundle in as well. I thought Phillips was outstanding and all the young lads did so well and they all grew into the game. Take an early night you moaning Normans
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Post by bojanwonder on Aug 27, 2024 20:45:50 GMT
Please Please can all the Schuey and SJW doubters come out to play tonight and lets nail you all, I guess your all under the rock where you belong up the Vale, so exciting tonight loved it, keep going Schuey top man. Shuey doubters please dont come back with negativity about Saturday if the two efforts from Koumas had gone in different story. Take it you weren't there on Saturday then? It was piss poor at times and Shuey overcomplicated things, changing formation several times and playing players out of position. He was rightly criticized and we have to be better. Encouraging showing tonight though and the kids did well!
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Post by alsager58 on Aug 28, 2024 8:30:28 GMT
Take it from me i was there my , unfortunately Gooch Junior Laurent and Thompson were ineffective which created an overload on the rest of the team. Your comments would have been interesting reading if both of the shots from Koumas had not hit the post. As SJW has clearly said there will be ups and downs unfortunately you and your short sighted moaners please look at the long term not just the 90 mins you have just watched.
Well done Shuey & SJW
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Aug 28, 2024 9:01:14 GMT
He needs to have more faith in the younger players in League marches,the so called senior players ain't cutting it & need dropping,if SS keeps relying on them they could end up getting him the sack.
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Post by Olgrligm on Aug 28, 2024 9:06:00 GMT
So that's what you think. So it's all conjecture on your part. Not conjecture at all . He went on to explain that they cold shouldered Cundle . Wouldn’t pass to him . So he rested him. Cundle didn’t sulk. Just got his head down . Then after he had scored at Sheffield he was accepted . Those that rebelled are still with us . Let’s see how many are loaned or sold come Friday . Did you not see Baker on Saturday just shoot from ridiculous positions? Like a spoiled brat . His last temper tantrum I’m guessing. And the others ? Doesn’t take much working out Are there any quotes on this?
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Post by bojanwonder on Aug 28, 2024 9:27:42 GMT
Take it from me i was there my , unfortunately Gooch Junior Laurent and Thompson were ineffective which created an overload on the rest of the team. Your comments would have been interesting reading if both of the shots from Koumas had not hit the post. As SJW has clearly said there will be ups and downs unfortunately you and your short sighted moaners please look at the long term not just the 90 mins you have just watched. Well done Shuey & SJW I'm not a moaner and I very much want Schuey to succeed. And yes, if the other goals had gone in people probably wouldn't be so worried. But it was a strange game and tactics were wrong, subs didn't make sense and we worried too much about what the opposition were doing instead of sticking to our own plan. I think I'm allowed to ask some questions!
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Post by Rick Grimes on Aug 28, 2024 9:29:59 GMT
The swingometer in full force, a win he’s great, a loss he’s awful…. It’s just the nature of football isn’t it, very mixed results equal very mixed responses. It’s down to Schumacher to tweak and improve things so that results are positive more consistently.
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Post by mamathestriker on Aug 28, 2024 9:30:50 GMT
His likeability is right up there, and for that I want him to do so well here.
He'll help himself by not confusing things and hopefully dropping Gooch and Laurent!
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Post by march4 on Aug 28, 2024 9:34:44 GMT
I wish we'd got a 21 year old Pej to play left back now! Would be sent off every game Not after the first few games. No one would dare going near him.
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Post by tqstokie on Aug 28, 2024 9:35:21 GMT
Hope he doesn't lose his bottle and plays a similar team with a similar attitude. Keep a similar shape. Always look for the forward pass and be positive. IMO we will win more games doing that.
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Post by ersaurebot 1, 000, 000 views on Aug 28, 2024 9:36:08 GMT
I’ll be honest, I’m firmly in the ‘clap the players off whatever the result’ camp. I get annoyed at the booing, I’ve done it, I can count on one hand the times, but I’ve done it.
But certainly so, I believe the players need our support and encouragement and that the battle is as much about turning a titanic sized shared confidence in what we are doing as much as getting tactics and selections correct.
But that said, there was something about Saturday that didn’t sit right, I struggled to defend some of the players attitude and effort, someone near me voiced such a concern towards the end and received an F bomb from Burger which was poor to say the least.
Last night gives me hope… but I derive as much hope from seeing players apply themselves and defend with spirit and strength and playing with passion.
That’s the base line requirement and I don’t think we were there on Saturday, hopefully, the ship is slowly turning though.
Rome wasn’t built in a day
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Aug 28, 2024 16:23:20 GMT
Why is it in the 5 games we've played this season,we leave the other teams wide men with plenty of space for them to play in?
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Post by march4 on Aug 28, 2024 16:26:34 GMT
After last night, it’s good to confirm there’s at least one manager worse than ours in the Championship.
I suspect there are some others too and it will be good to beat our next opponents and their manager.
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Post by milky on Aug 28, 2024 16:44:35 GMT
He needs to stick to what he believes in,trust his players ,stop over complicating and over thinking and stop shitting himself & changing things at the first sign of a defeat.
I hope last night has encouraged him to do just that.If we see Gooch again on the left wing then it's back to square one with him.
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Post by collo68 on Aug 28, 2024 16:51:43 GMT
After last night, it’s good to confirm there’s at least one manager worse than ours in the Championship. I suspect there are some others too and it will be good to beat our next opponents and their manager. Imagine the meltdown if we had lost 5 nil at home
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Post by pieofpeter on Aug 28, 2024 16:53:03 GMT
Well done SS and everyone around the club including the academy. It's going to be one of them seasons with the squad being so young. Your going to get great and not so great performances with players learning their trade. And with us going with the you score 3 we score 4 approach it's going to be entertaining. The manager is young and is learning an all. Though I think he will do great things for us if given time.
As much as I like the younger players I'd like a couple of experience pros in the 25-28 range for players to lean on in games and off the field. Just my thoughts so far of this season.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Aug 28, 2024 17:00:38 GMT
After last night, it’s good to confirm there’s at least one manager worse than ours in the Championship. I suspect there are some others too and it will be good to beat our next opponents and their manager. Imagine the meltdown if we had lost 5 nil at home It would have been biblical on here. Almost worth a 5 nil beating to watch the carnage on here 😆
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Post by Ron on Aug 29, 2024 13:07:56 GMT
He needs to stick to what he believes in,trust his players ,stop over complicating and over thinking and stop shitting himself & changing things at the first sign of a defeat. I hope last night has encouraged him to do just that.If we see Gooch again on the left wing then it's back to square one with him. This is spot on. We started to paly well back end of last season sticking to the 433. It was uncomplicated, players knew their roles and it worked. The WBA debacle was down to his tinkering. So frustrating when his decision to play Koumas centrally really paid off. I hope it has shown him he can relay on some of the younger players- i'd rather see Sidibe thatn Thompson or Laurent- thought it was a really "mature" performance from him the other night. Thought the midfield 3 was really balanced- again refreshing to see. Dixon also showed that he shoud not be overlooked at CB - thought he was composed, won headers and read the game well. Stick to a way of playing , stick to a core group of players, and hopefully it will bear fruit. Oh, and work out a way to break down teams who sit behind the ball at our place knowing full well they will get a soft goal at some point.
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Post by Waggy on Aug 31, 2024 17:47:42 GMT
Schumacher’s barmy army. Hats off, playing a youthful attacking side. I feel the most excited going a Stoke game for about 8 years. Keep it up Steven and most will enjoy the ride.
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Post by baystokie on Aug 31, 2024 18:05:02 GMT
Fair enough this forum is about having opinions so nobody can be 'right' or 'wrong' (save for bayern?). However, the idea that folk on here are competent enough to deliver a 'verdict' (not just as opinion) on the manager is laughable. Football management must be one of very few occupations that folk with NO experience feel competent to judge those that have. You wouldn't pass judgement on the management performance of a car manufacturing business like BMW as you know nothing about it, so why a football business about which you know just as little?
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Post by mamathestriker on Sept 1, 2024 6:29:44 GMT
Big result for him yesterday and he seemed much more himself in the interview afterwards, probably because the window has shut.
He's he most likeable boss we've had in years, really want him to get this right!
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Post by kaney78 on Sept 1, 2024 6:57:21 GMT
I know it was only Plymouth yesterday but I've got to say that's the first time in a few years I've come away from a game feeling quite excited about the rest of the season.We looked a good,young attacking side.
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Post by scfcno1fan on Sept 1, 2024 7:01:56 GMT
Teams will certainly be more clinical against us.
But then we will be against them.
They’ll be some high scoring games!
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Post by lawrieleslie on Sept 1, 2024 7:15:07 GMT
Fair enough this forum is about having opinions so nobody can be 'right' or 'wrong' (save for bayern?). However, the idea that folk on here are competent enough to deliver a 'verdict' (not just as opinion) on the manager is laughable. Football management must be one of very few occupations that folk with NO experience feel competent to judge those that have. You wouldn't pass judgement on the management performance of a car manufacturing business like BMW as you know nothing about it, so why a football business about which you know just as little? BMW are crap cars, no indicators for a start and massively overpriced German tat. There I’ve passed judgement.
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Post by drippinggoatsnob on Sept 1, 2024 19:03:33 GMT
The Plymouth result was a relief for us all. The team was energetic and young.
We've lost against two good teams and beat two struggling sides. The game is still too open and we have a Swiss cheese midfield but good signs of progress with the FBs and the craft in the final 3rd.
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