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Post by baconburger on Aug 26, 2024 12:19:47 GMT
With managers. there comes a tipping point where it becomes obvious they're heading for the sack. This can happen days, weeks or even months before the axe actually falls but that is just delaying the inevitable. We could all see it happening for TP, Hughes, Rowett, Jones, MON and AN - for all of them it became a matter of when and not if. Our owners are traditionally loyal to their managers and have waited too long to dismiss some of those managers after the tipping point has been reached. Are we close to the tipping point for our current manager? He might survive for a while yet, but when we look back, will this next few days be the point where we say it was obvious he wouldn't last for the long term? Or will the last week of the transfer window and improved performances at M'boro and Plymouth cement his position for years to come? Neither would be my guess. He'll get fired at the most opportune moment for JW. I think the tipping point was last season when "the players" forced Schumacher to abandon his principals and play risk adverse percentage football. No JW, I don't think that ever happens and he (SS) either lives or dies by whether he can make his principals and systems work.
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Post by owdestokie2 on Aug 26, 2024 12:31:54 GMT
I have read Pejic's piece in the Sentinel and have to say it largely mirrors my thoughts after the game.I could not understand how we started. People have been blaming Bocat but his wide man who he would take as a proper left back fell to the responsibility of Gooch. SS said they had worked on that all week and how the winger liked to attack and then dink balls to the far post. How did he ever expect Gooch to cope due to his lack of speed off the mark and his general lack of pace. Tchamadeu then tried to outmuscle Grant to stop him getting to the ball rather than simply react first to head the ball. We were still into the game until we hit the post in the second half when the subs were made. I don't criticise SS for making subs but the way they were put on the pitch was so disorganised. He pulled Gooch from the left to right back for instance and then for the rest of the time Manhoef was on the pitch he had to continually turn to Gooch to tell him where Gooch should be making his runs. Obviously not something they had been working on all week! W Brom could not handle Koumas so he decide to take him away from where he was playing well and put Mmaee on.I thought Mmaee started ok but quickly that changed and Ennis came on to totally confuse the picture and players did not seem to know what was required from them. Don't get me started on our midfield which was subbed in a quite shambloic way and whoever had the idea to put Moran wide right?! When only two players end the match in the position they start it, and one of those being the keeper, you know something is wrong. I hope SS calms down and plays the system he believes is right, playing those who he believes will do the job he requires and making subs for the right reasons and not just as a throw of the dice. I hate criticism of Mangers/Coaches and especially after only three games but SS does seem by his actions that he is feeling the pressure and as I say he needs to take a deep breath, decide how he wants to play and live or die by his calm and calculated decisions. I certainly hope he succeeds. I’m certainly not a qualified football coach but even after 15 minutes I couldn’t understand - How Koumas, Million and Jun-Ho were positionally linking. At times Million was in an inside forwards position - Laurent and Thompson holding hands and playing 5/10 yard square passes to each other - Laurent dropping in between Wilmot and Gibson - No lessons learned from Watford regarding space allowed for opposing wide players Remarked at half time “a worryingly insipid display” Substitutions. By the time all substitutions had been made it turned into an advert for Fred Carno’s Circus Yes you can criticise the performance of individual players, but I’d have to ask questions of all of the Coaching Staff after that debacle
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Post by pushon on Aug 26, 2024 12:36:39 GMT
SS will get the boot and SJW will step up to take his job. This was a publicity stunt from day one. I don’t blame either bloke for taking the job. We are an old fashioned, unpopular club, under achieving club. That is one of the main reasons we can not attract good players. Surely a move to 'Head Coach' would be a step down for JW, he's currently the 'Sports Director' or some such title. Which presumably puts him in charge of Sporting Activities? A responsibility he wouldn't enjoy(?), if he was downgraded to Head Coach.
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Post by pushon on Aug 26, 2024 12:47:20 GMT
With managers. there comes a tipping point where it becomes obvious they're heading for the sack. This can happen days, weeks or even months before the axe actually falls but that is just delaying the inevitable. We could all see it happening for TP, Hughes, Rowett, Jones, MON and AN - for all of them it became a matter of when and not if. Our owners are traditionally loyal to their managers and have waited too long to dismiss some of those managers after the tipping point has been reached. Are we close to the tipping point for our current manager? He might survive for a while yet, but when we look back, will this next few days be the point where we say it was obvious he wouldn't last for the long term? Or will the last week of the transfer window and improved performances at M'boro and Plymouth cement his position for years to come? I don't disagree with your assessment March, but SS was announced as Head Coach and not First Team Manager, which presumably diminishes his overall responsibilities. 🤔
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Post by questionable on Aug 26, 2024 13:25:44 GMT
Massive clash of styles between SS & JW, that’s if SS has one that is.
For the life of me I couldn’t understand the “long term” appointment of JW and SS should have gone last season in all fairness.
Yet again somehow we’ve regressed yet again, squad is totally unbalanced, key positions so far ignored, shite players starting, insane set ups and bringing in very inexperienced young player's.
You couldn’t make this up.
SS needs to go
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Post by baconburger on Aug 26, 2024 13:28:44 GMT
Massive clash of styles between SS & JW, that’s if SS has one that is. For the life of me I couldn’t understand the “long term” appointment of JW and SS should have gone last season in all fairness. Yet again somehow we’ve regressed yet again, squad is totally unbalanced, key positions so far ignored, shite players starting, insane set ups and bringing in very inexperienced young player's. You couldn’t make this up. SS needs to go What is JW's style and where have you witnessed it??
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Aug 26, 2024 13:37:05 GMT
SS will do well if we bring in players HE WANTS that can play the style he wants to play.
Can't see the point in Walters bringing in players that SS has to try & get them to fit in.
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Post by baconburger on Aug 26, 2024 13:41:37 GMT
SS will do well if we bring in players HE WANTS that can play the style he wants to play. Can't see the point in Walters bringing in players that SS has to try & get them to fit in. Whether we like it or not we've got a far better idea of what Schumacher football looks like than JW football, he simply hasn't got a known non playing football identity. If you're judging him by his associations fuck him off ASAP for me.
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Post by idle on Aug 26, 2024 13:42:07 GMT
I've read this exact opinion hundreds of times on here since we came down, you'd think we'd be a national league team by now. It isn’t the same. Saturday was a new low tactically. Clear the set up was wrong after 10 minutes but subs came late and in a bewildering fashion Gibson was the only outfield player who ended in the position he started. That is unprecedented and better defined as chaos. How can we build momentum if we are changing every 5 minutes? Exactly the same thing was said about NJ, MON and AN. And not just at the end of their tenures. FFS, we had a bigger xG than WBA. And yes, we've lost two of the first three games. We won 2 of the 3 first, and both home wins, last year. And beat WBA and Rotherham (again) in the league cup for a good start to the season. How did that work out, eh? In 2022 Coventry had 1 draw and then 4 straight losses, and only won in their 8th game, and they ended up in the playoffs. The amount of knicker wetting on here is ridiculous. We'll see in November where we're at, and then evaluate. It's too early to tell how it will go! As for the game, there where positives. Using Koumas as a striker was a good decision, and both Million and Laurent had good passes for him to run onto. The negatives were many, but SS can't be held responsible for Gooch defending like a schoolboy and a poor midfield job by Thompson. Plus, SS did what many here wanted - drop Burger and play Bae centrally. That didn't work at all, so he tried to change it (and did badly, I agree with that). People make mistakes. And while "superduper" Johnny Walters still haven't signed a fit striker, you lot are ripping into the head coach.
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Post by baconburger on Aug 26, 2024 13:46:24 GMT
It isn’t the same. Saturday was a new low tactically. Clear the set up was wrong after 10 minutes but subs came late and in a bewildering fashion Gibson was the only outfield player who ended in the position he started. That is unprecedented and better defined as chaos. How can we build momentum if we are changing every 5 minutes? Exactly the same thing was said about NJ, MON and AN. And not just at the end of their tenures. FFS, we had a bigger xG than WBA. And yes, we've lost two of the first three games. We won 2 of the 3 first, and both home wins, last year. And beat WBA and Rotherham (again) in the league cup for a good start to the season. How did that work out, eh? In 2022 Coventry had 1 draw and then 4 straight losses, and only won in their 8th game, and they ended up in the playoffs. The amount of knicker wetting on here is ridiculous. We'll see in November where we're at, and then evaluate. It's too early to tell how it will go! As for the game, there where positives. Using Koumas as a striker was a good decision, and both Million and Laurent had good passes for him to run onto. The negatives were many, but SS can't be held responsible for Gooch defending like a schoolboy and a poor midfield job by Thompson. Plus, SS did what many here wanted - drop Burger and play Bae centrally. That didn't work at all, so he tried to change it (and did badly, I agree with that). People make mistakes. And while "superduper" Johnny Walters still haven't signed a fit striker, you lot are ripping into the head coach. Not difficult to guess why. The bulk of them want SS gone and a Pulista appointed.
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Post by chiswickpotter on Aug 26, 2024 14:36:38 GMT
It isn’t the same. Saturday was a new low tactically. Clear the set up was wrong after 10 minutes but subs came late and in a bewildering fashion Gibson was the only outfield player who ended in the position he started. That is unprecedented and better defined as chaos. How can we build momentum if we are changing every 5 minutes? Exactly the same thing was said about NJ, MON and AN. And not just at the end of their tenures. FFS, we had a bigger xG than WBA. And yes, we've lost two of the first three games. We won 2 of the 3 first, and both home wins, last year. And beat WBA and Rotherham (again) in the league cup for a good start to the season. How did that work out, eh? In 2022 Coventry had 1 draw and then 4 straight losses, and only won in their 8th game, and they ended up in the playoffs. The amount of knicker wetting on here is ridiculous. We'll see in November where we're at, and then evaluate. It's too early to tell how it will go! As for the game, there where positives. Using Koumas as a striker was a good decision, and both Million and Laurent had good passes for him to run onto. The negatives were many, but SS can't be held responsible for Gooch defending like a schoolboy and a poor midfield job by Thompson. Plus, SS did what many here wanted - drop Burger and play Bae centrally. That didn't work at all, so he tried to change it (and did badly, I agree with that). People make mistakes. And while "superduper" Johnny Walters still haven't signed a fit striker, you lot are ripping into the head coach. Read the Mike Pejic article in the Sentinel, it was utter chaos, only Mad Nath could get close. For all their limitations, GR, MON and AN are experienced football managers who would not have lost control like we did second half. I hope injuries explain part of it, but the last two weeks have witnessed management that has been totally inept, completely failing to read what was happening on the pitch
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Post by chiswickpotter on Aug 26, 2024 14:40:02 GMT
It isn’t the same. Saturday was a new low tactically. Clear the set up was wrong after 10 minutes but subs came late and in a bewildering fashion Gibson was the only outfield player who ended in the position he started. That is unprecedented and better defined as chaos. How can we build momentum if we are changing every 5 minutes? Exactly the same thing was said about NJ, MON and AN. And not just at the end of their tenures. FFS, we had a bigger xG than WBA. And yes, we've lost two of the first three games. We won 2 of the 3 first, and both home wins, last year. And beat WBA and Rotherham (again) in the league cup for a good start to the season. How did that work out, eh? In 2022 Coventry had 1 draw and then 4 straight losses, and only won in their 8th game, and they ended up in the playoffs. The amount of knicker wetting on here is ridiculous. We'll see in November where we're at, and then evaluate. It's too early to tell how it will go! As for the game, there where positives. Using Koumas as a striker was a good decision, and both Million and Laurent had good passes for him to run onto. The negatives were many, but SS can't be held responsible for Gooch defending like a schoolboy and a poor midfield job by Thompson. Plus, SS did what many here wanted - drop Burger and play Bae centrally. That didn't work at all, so he tried to change it (and did badly, I agree with that). People make mistakes. And while "superduper" Johnny Walters still haven't signed a fit striker, you lot are ripping into the head coach. He picked Gooch in a role he can’t play, played Bae as a midfielder against a top midfield that was always going to be too physical for him and continues with Thompson who is the squad player not starter he has been for 4 seasons. All of those were choices made by the manager. Justifying decisions because the fans might think it is right is no justification, more the opposite. And, even then, like at Watford, why not change when it clearly wasn’t working?
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Post by thisisouryear on Aug 26, 2024 14:50:41 GMT
Massive clash of styles between SS & JW, that’s if SS has one that is. For the life of me I couldn’t understand the “long term” appointment of JW and SS should have gone last season in all fairness. Yet again somehow we’ve regressed yet again, squad is totally unbalanced, key positions so far ignored, shite players starting, insane set ups and bringing in very inexperienced young player's. You couldn’t make this up. SS needs to go Schumacher has had to start the season with a shite squad and let down massively by Walters so far who has just signed players that he likes and left him short of what he really needs. I don't see what Schumacher is supposed to do, he's trying to make the best of a bad situation which he didn't create. He just needs to find what works for this group of players, it could be fixed in the next game or it might take several more games. Anyone who expected anything other than a shit start to this season with the players he had available to him is deluded.
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Post by stokeoptimist on Aug 26, 2024 15:02:54 GMT
I wish we'd got a 21 year old Pej to play left back now! Would be sent off every game
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Post by Clem Fandango on Aug 26, 2024 15:15:29 GMT
Massive clash of styles between SS & JW, that’s if SS has one that is. For the life of me I couldn’t understand the “long term” appointment of JW and SS should have gone last season in all fairness. Yet again somehow we’ve regressed yet again, squad is totally unbalanced, key positions so far ignored, shite players starting, insane set ups and bringing in very inexperienced young player's. You couldn’t make this up. SS needs to go Schumacher has had to start the season with a shite squad and let down massively by Walters so far who has just signed players that he likes and left him short of what he really needs. I don't see what Schumacher is supposed to do, he's trying to make the best of a bad situation which he didn't create. He just needs to find what works for this group of players, it could be fixed in the next game or it might take several more games. Anyone who expected anything other than a shit start to this season with the players he had available to him is deluded. I’ll be shocked if he didn’t recommend that we sign Ennis though. That’s one striker position that’s prevented us from doing further business this window.
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Post by baconburger on Aug 26, 2024 15:39:04 GMT
Schumacher has had to start the season with a shite squad and let down massively by Walters so far who has just signed players that he likes and left him short of what he really needs. I don't see what Schumacher is supposed to do, he's trying to make the best of a bad situation which he didn't create. He just needs to find what works for this group of players, it could be fixed in the next game or it might take several more games. Anyone who expected anything other than a shit start to this season with the players he had available to him is deluded. I’ll be shocked if he didn’t recommend that we sign Ennis though. That’s one striker position that’s prevented us from doing further business this window. Fancy recommending a player that whilst he hasn’t been a great success can be moved on quite easily aren’t Barnsley just waiting for us to sort our shit out before they take him??
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Aug 26, 2024 16:20:24 GMT
Without doubt SS over complicates things. We play random line ups and lack physicality in the side. It’s always should be a case of round pegs round holes but managers at Stoke in the last few years love those bloody square pegs
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Post by owdestokie2 on Aug 26, 2024 16:24:41 GMT
SS will do well if we bring in players HE WANTS that can play the style he wants to play. Can't see the point in Walters bringing in players that SS has to try & get them to fit in. Who says he is
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Post by baconburger on Aug 26, 2024 16:27:10 GMT
SS will do well if we bring in players HE WANTS that can play the style he wants to play. Can't see the point in Walters bringing in players that SS has to try & get them to fit in. Who says he is What would get you to accept it? A signed affidavit from Jon Coates written in blood. Most of our signings this summer have Walters’ fingerprints all over them.
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Post by owdestokie2 on Aug 26, 2024 17:03:39 GMT
There are a few people posting who are either stating or suggesting there are significant differences between SJW and SS in the recruitment of players.
Unless someone has trustworthy internal knowledge of the recruitment process and can categorically state which players are involved in any form of internal dispute (signed or being sought) they should think carefully about the wording of their posts.
I would love for us to have finished our recruitment drive, seeing players come in who will take us forward and others being allowed to leave to progress their careers with other clubs. We aren’t in a perfect world unfortunately.
Division is our enemy and over the years it’s split our supporter base on numerous occasions, Own Worst Enemies”……..
Before I get derided as being a “happy clapper” I’m not. I do believe in the concept of VIS UNITA FORTIOR, I’m simply “suggesting” that good debate is based upon constructive in criticism, asking searching questions and where possible being factual.
I’ve been critical of Saturday’s performance and I certainly think that SS was a significant factor in our performance. Having said that I’m hopeful that it was a “blip”, lessons learned and we move on.
Football is a results game and I’m hoping for stability throughout the club because our record since the sacking of TP who had longevity in charge how many managers, coaches, recruitment staff, fitness analysts etc have we had, progress or consistent strife?
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Post by ceejays on Aug 26, 2024 17:14:19 GMT
We lose a game and the sack the manager brigade come out in force . We need stability at the top . We have a likeable guy now that I think we all appreciate after the dour demeanour of AN . For my part I think he worries too much about the opposition ( like AN ) . Develop a style of play stick to it and let the opponent worry about us . Impose ourselves. Of course still need to understand their set pieces etc but please no Don Revie dossiers albeit verbal in this case . Stick with SS . He will come good .
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Post by thisisouryear on Aug 26, 2024 17:17:50 GMT
Schumacher has had to start the season with a shite squad and let down massively by Walters so far who has just signed players that he likes and left him short of what he really needs. I don't see what Schumacher is supposed to do, he's trying to make the best of a bad situation which he didn't create. He just needs to find what works for this group of players, it could be fixed in the next game or it might take several more games. Anyone who expected anything other than a shit start to this season with the players he had available to him is deluded. I’ll be shocked if he didn’t recommend that we sign Ennis though. That’s one striker position that’s prevented us from doing further business this window. That was a desperation signing for cover with hardly any time to sort someone else out. It was a player he knew a bit about so under the circumstances was a cheap option and he wasn't a bad signing. Since the end of last season we have wanted 1 or 2 strikers in and so far we signed an injury prone one who has cost a lot more and a far riskier signing and that's on Walters who now runs that department and still we need a striker to lead the line. Schumacher threw a winger up front because we are so desperate and he did a good job, perhaps better than expected
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Post by thisisouryear on Aug 26, 2024 17:27:16 GMT
We lose a game and the sack the manager brigade come out in force . We need stability at the top . We have a likeable guy now that I think we all appreciate after the dour demeanour of AN . For my part I think he worries too much about the opposition ( like AN ) . Develop a style of play stick to it and let the opponent worry about us . Impose ourselves. Of course still need to understand their set pieces etc but please no Don Revie dossiers albeit verbal in this case . Stick with SS . He will come good . He doesn't have a proper 1st team to work with and he doesn't have sufficient back up so inevitably he will make changes. Maybe it's easier to work on 1 formation than 2 because he doesn't have the right players to come off the bench to continue with his favoured formation. We have players still getting their sharpness back, I'm confident we will get some momentum eventually but for now we just have to be patient. Sometimes he will get it right but let's be honest even the best managers get it wrong now and again
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Post by baconburger on Aug 26, 2024 17:37:01 GMT
There are a few people posting who are either stating or suggesting there are significant differences between SJW and SS in the recruitment of players. Unless someone has trustworthy internal knowledge of the recruitment process and can categorically state which players are involved in any form of internal dispute (signed or being sought) they should think carefully about the wording of their posts. I would love for us to have finished our recruitment drive, seeing players come in who will take us forward and others being allowed to leave to progress their careers with other clubs. We aren’t in a perfect world unfortunately. Division is our enemy and over the years it’s split our supporter base on numerous occasions, Own Worst Enemies”…….. Before I get derided as being a “happy clapper” I’m not. I do believe in the concept of VIS UNITA FORTIOR, I’m simply “suggesting” that good debate is based upon constructive in criticism, asking searching questions and where possible being factual. I’ve been critical of Saturday’s performance and I certainly think that SS was a significant factor in our performance. Having said that I’m hopeful that it was a “blip”, lessons learned and we move on. Football is a results game and I’m hoping for stability throughout the club because our record since the sacking of TP who had longevity in charge how many managers, coaches, recruitment staff, fitness analysts etc have we had, progress or consistent strife? There’s your division right there. We’ve parachuted a person in to the top of the football side of things with no track record of his own who’ll be associated with Pulis and to a certain extent Dyche and people who dislike/d them will be against/have a healthy suspicion of him until he has shown an identity of his own. You could no more get me on board with Pulis’ methods and mindset as you could have the day he was sacked.
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Post by thornestein on Aug 26, 2024 17:41:37 GMT
What would get you to accept it? A signed affidavit from Jon Coates written in blood. Most of our signings this summer have Walters’ fingerprints all over them. some are to dumb to see what’s in front of them as they think everything the club does is perfect
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Post by thornestein on Aug 26, 2024 17:47:40 GMT
As i posted last week I really don’t know at this stage which striker we can sign🤷♂️ very true , and we’re pinning our hopes it’s Canon who’s still young and not certain to be the 15+ striker we need 🤷♂️
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2024 17:50:16 GMT
The 'issue' if you want to call it that with Schumacher, and any manager from the lower leagues that have overachieved with a lower budget (as Jones did with Luton) is that they normally have a system of play that is very different than the rest which has enabled them to overachieve. With Jones it was the diamond and with Schumacher it was the narrow 3-4-3 or 4-3-3 with inverted full backs. I often scratched my head with Jones as to why players in the lower leagues could adopt that system yet players at our level couldn't but the truth I think is probably more that they wouldn't rather than couldn't. When you think about it - at that level players are generally going nowhere fast and when you get a group of youngish lads together or misfits at the last chance saloon and a coach that is starting to get results it sometimes just gains traction and builds from there.
Wilder at Sheffield United is a great example too with his overlapping centre backs in a 3-5-2. He started it in league one with a bunch of misfits at the last chance saloon and it just built from there. He failed at Watford and Boro where he hadn't got that gravitas with players and hadn't already taken them on a journey - in short he was just another number.
You could argue McKenna is going to be the same at Ipswich but time will tell on that one.
Quite what the conclusion is from this rambling post with regards to Schumacher here I don't know but maybe we are just overthinking everything here and maybe with certain managers and certain situations it just clicks?
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Post by owdestokie2 on Aug 26, 2024 17:56:11 GMT
There are a few people posting who are either stating or suggesting there are significant differences between SJW and SS in the recruitment of players. Unless someone has trustworthy internal knowledge of the recruitment process and can categorically state which players are involved in any form of internal dispute (signed or being sought) they should think carefully about the wording of their posts. I would love for us to have finished our recruitment drive, seeing players come in who will take us forward and others being allowed to leave to progress their careers with other clubs. We aren’t in a perfect world unfortunately. Division is our enemy and over the years it’s split our supporter base on numerous occasions, Own Worst Enemies”…….. Before I get derided as being a “happy clapper” I’m not. I do believe in the concept of VIS UNITA FORTIOR, I’m simply “suggesting” that good debate is based upon constructive in criticism, asking searching questions and where possible being factual. I’ve been critical of Saturday’s performance and I certainly think that SS was a significant factor in our performance. Having said that I’m hopeful that it was a “blip”, lessons learned and we move on. Football is a results game and I’m hoping for stability throughout the club because our record since the sacking of TP who had longevity in charge how many managers, coaches, recruitment staff, fitness analysts etc have we had, progress or consistent strife? There’s your division right there. We’ve parachuted a person in to the top of the football side of things with no track record of his own who’ll be associated with Pulis and to a certain extent Dyche and people who dislike/d them will be against/have a healthy suspicion of him until he has shown an identity of his own. You could no more get me on board with Pulis’ methods and mindset as you could have the day he was sacked. This will be very last reply to yourself on any subject/future post. As per normal you appear to seek attention and responses, ego? The only reason that TP was mentioned was that he was the last manager that we have had with any longevity in post in the last 14 years or so. Division, your’e an architect of the meaning. Over & Out
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Post by baconburger on Aug 26, 2024 17:59:02 GMT
The 'issue' if you want to call it that with Schumacher, and any manager from the lower leagues that have overachieved with a lower budget (as Jones did with Luton) is that they normally have a system of play that is very different than the rest which has enabled them to overachieve. With Jones it was the diamond and with Schumacher it was the narrow 3-4-3 or 4-3-3 with inverted full backs. I often scratched my head with Jones as to why players in the lower leagues could adopt that system yet players at our level couldn't but the truth I think is probably more that they wouldn't rather than couldn't. When you think about it - at that level players are generally going nowhere fast and when you get a group of youngish lads together or misfits at the last chance saloon and a coach that is starting to get results it sometimes just gains traction and builds from there. Wilder at Sheffield United is a great example too with his overlapping centre backs in a 3-5-2. He started it in league one with a bunch of misfits at the last chance saloon and it just built from there. He failed at Watford and Boro where he hadn't got that gravitas with players and hadn't already taken them on a journey - in short he was just another number. You could argue McKenna is going to be the same at Ipswich but time will tell on that one. Quite what the conclusion is from this rambling post with regards to Schumacher here I don't know but maybe we are just overthinking everything here and maybe with certain managers and certain situations it just clicks? Part of Schumacher’s problem is going to be that “the players” launched a coup against his methods last season and we’ve had no significant movements out. I’d be want the most vocal of that out the door ASAP but there again I don’t think it ever happens if they don’t think they’ve got the ear of the TD/SD. Sadly I think it’s only a matter of the timing from here on in.
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Post by baconburger on Aug 26, 2024 18:04:05 GMT
There’s your division right there. We’ve parachuted a person in to the top of the football side of things with no track record of his own who’ll be associated with Pulis and to a certain extent Dyche and people who dislike/d them will be against/have a healthy suspicion of him until he has shown an identity of his own. You could no more get me on board with Pulis’ methods and mindset as you could have the day he was sacked. This will be very last reply to yourself on any subject/future post. As per normal you appear to seek attention and responses, ego? The only reason that TP was mentioned was that he was the last manager that we have had with any longevity in post in the last 14 years or so. Division, your’e an architect of the meaning. Over & Out You must have missed the one who came after him who was here for quite some time. Were you in mourning??
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