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Post by nottsover60 on Apr 28, 2024 19:15:19 GMT
He's much better. There are very few matches I haven't enjoyed since he came in even some defeats have been enjoyable. He seems to set up to win most of the time(I know Huddersfield and Wednesday weren't but it was so important not to lose those and not allowing either club to climb above us). I've only seen the highlights but although Southampton were in the game more after half time it didn't look as if we sat back and defended our lead. |
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Post by nottsover60 on Apr 28, 2024 19:25:31 GMT
I've read very little of the thread, but my opinion is, that he's the Breath of Fresh air we've been seeking for too long. I don’t mean this to sound harsh, but how is he a breath of fresh air? I don’t see it. I think he’s been very similar to previous managers. Picking players from a pot Regular formation changes Lacking in confidence Odd substitutes Strange tactics or lack of them I don't get your point of view. I can accept the first one although I think he can probably justify all his selections. I have the feeling he spends a long time deciding and he has been learning about the capabilities of his squad through all those changes. Regular formation changes? Someone the last week said he had no plan B. Which is it? I think if the players buy into formation changes it will ultimately be to our advantage. Lacking in confidence? Was true but in the latter stages of the season the confidence has grown partly as a consequence of results but also because he has worked on them in training. Odd substitutes? In general I think his substitutions have worked. Strange tactics, again an acceptable criticism but I think that has been down to trying to find tactics to suit the squad |
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Post by roylandstoke on Apr 28, 2024 20:07:30 GMT
He's much better. There are very few matches I haven't enjoyed since he came in even some defeats. He seems to set up to win most of the time(I know Huddersfield and Wednesday weren't but it was so important not to lose those and not allowing either club to climb above us). I've only seen the highlights but although Southampton were in the game more after half time it didn't look as if we sat back and defended our lead. There's been some good and some bloody awful. AN's team were great for a month last March. SS deserves full backing over the summer. I'll judge him after 12-14 games next season. |
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Post by thornestein on Apr 28, 2024 20:12:50 GMT
Last 9 games we have 4 3 2 = 15 points. 15:9 = 1.67 per game which isn't too bad I think.  Over a season that would be around 76-77 points which is very good in my opinion. It would actually be so good that we would be fighting for the play-offs!  [b can’t judge off just them games though , it’s got be all of them , i’m now in the camp of keeping him, but can completely understand the argument of fucking him off , he was bought here to improve us but we still ended up in a relegation fight , nothing shout about |
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Post by senojbor on Apr 28, 2024 22:07:38 GMT
What a turnaround! Beating Preston, Hull and Southampton all desperate for promotion and holding SW to a draw at their own place.
Good football too!
It will come good under SS
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Apr 29, 2024 6:18:30 GMT
The results since Good Friday have definitely improved as have the performances . The Catalyst for change clearly rhe removal of Martin and the appointment of Walters . Seems to have given Schumacher the canvas he needs to operate as envisaged by JC , he has certainly improved in the last 5 weeks or so , so he has undoubtedly earned the right to manage the summer and next season through a period of very very significant change.
Now that Safety been achieved the plan can definitively start and we will be in a far stronger football club , in a far stronger position come August even if it takes until the autumn to show .
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Post by Bagwash on Apr 29, 2024 7:48:59 GMT
Far,far better since he became manager,a couple of bad results but overall ok.
Doesn't count for much but he also comes across more likeable than our previous manager.
Already looking forward to next season.
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Post by Bagwash on Apr 29, 2024 7:52:33 GMT
The results since Good Friday have definitely improved as have the performances . The Catalyst for change clearly rhe removal of Martin and the appointment of Walters . Seems to have given Schumacher the canvas he needs to operate as envisaged by JC , he has certainly improved in the last 5 weeks or so , so he has undoubtedly earned the right to manage the summer and next season through a period of very very significant change. Now that Safety been achieved the plan can definitively start and we will be in a far stronger football club , in a far stronger position come August even if it takes until the autumn to show . That has got to be the most positive thing you have ever posted on this board....well done. |
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Post by silsdenstokie on Apr 29, 2024 8:24:03 GMT
Feel far happier with Schuey in charge than I did the previous incumbent
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Post by apb1 on Apr 29, 2024 8:34:55 GMT
I really hope we can finish with a win. The dreadful end to Neil's first season meant there was very little excitement going into this one. And other than a couple of decent early results, the lack of excitement was spot on!
If we beat Bristol C, Shuey's 24 game record will be - 1.33 pts per game, lost only one more than we've won, with a decent win rate of 38%. None of this is exactly earth-shattering, but the recent momentum - from winning three in a row, going four unbeaten, only one defeat in last eight - will make him, and the squad, more comfortable as we continue building over the summer.
We'll obviously lose it now I've jinxed it but I like him and of course hope he learns and improves. Bayern is right about sticking to principles though. With a decent finisher we'd have stuffed Brum at home, and that loss really seemed to freak him out.
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Post by Gods on Apr 29, 2024 8:45:06 GMT
I think it is very important to go in to a new season on the back of a decent finish to the previous one even if several of the personnel change.
Momentum, a precious yet elusive quality!
And one we've not really ever had since our return to the Championship.
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Post by etebojan on Apr 29, 2024 9:01:07 GMT
Another win would be a brilliant finish to the season, and light years from the absolute car crash ending that Neil served up to last season, really makes you wonder why the hell he was given the whole summer rebuild with hindsight. The final last 7 games we lost 5 and drew 2 (of the last 5 we lost 4, including the last two games).
Currently of our last 7 games we've only lost 1 won 3 and drawn 3, finishing the season with 8 games and only 1 loss would be brilliant
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Post by skidog on Apr 29, 2024 9:02:31 GMT
Far,far better since he became manager,a couple of bad results but overall ok. Doesn't count for much but he also comes across more likeable than our previous manager. Already looking forward to next season. A dose of the clap is more likeable than that miserable dour faced clown. Drove me mad in his interviews when every other word was either “i fink” or “i thought” So happy when he got his much deserved P45 |
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Post by shakermaker on Apr 29, 2024 9:35:11 GMT
I really hope we can finish with a win. The dreadful end to Neil's first season meant there was very little excitement going into this one. And other than a couple of decent early results, the lack of excitement was spot on! If we beat Bristol C, Shuey's 24 game record will be - 1.33 pts per game, lost only one more than we've won, with a decent win rate of 38%. None of this is exactly earth-shattering, but the recent momentum - from winning three in a row, going four unbeaten, only one defeat in last eight - will make him, and the squad, more comfortable as we continue building over the summer. We'll obviously lose it now I've jinxed it but I like him and of course hope he learns and improves. Bayern is right about sticking to principles though. With a decent finisher we'd have stuffed Brum at home, and that loss really seemed to freak him out. I am all for sticking with Schuey, as he definitely earned his stripes over the last dozen games. For my own assurance though, I would love to know why he abandoned his principles after that Birmingham loss. As you say, we were quite unfortunate to lose that game and it should not have served as a precursor for Schuey to mess around with the team. In doing so, he threw us from 10-point safety into a desperate relegation scrap. I would only feel comfortable if I knew he would never do anything like that again! |
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Post by pavel on Apr 29, 2024 9:44:46 GMT
The results since Good Friday have definitely improved as have the performances . The Catalyst for change clearly rhe removal of Martin and the appointment of Walters . Seems to have given Schumacher the canvas he needs to operate as envisaged by JC , he has certainly improved in the last 5 weeks or so , so he has undoubtedly earned the right to manage the summer and next season through a period of very very significant change. Now that Safety been achieved the plan can definitively start and we will be in a far stronger football club , in a far stronger position come August even if it takes until the autumn to show . Is this you Benji or do you have a ghostwriter now! I have to say I totally agree with you on this one. |
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Apr 29, 2024 9:55:41 GMT
The results since Good Friday have definitely improved as have the performances . The Catalyst for change clearly rhe removal of Martin and the appointment of Walters . Seems to have given Schumacher the canvas he needs to operate as envisaged by JC , he has certainly improved in the last 5 weeks or so , so he has undoubtedly earned the right to manage the summer and next season through a period of very very significant change. Now that Safety been achieved the plan can definitively start and we will be in a far stronger football club , in a far stronger position come August even if it takes until the autumn to show . That has got to be the most positive thing you have ever posted on this board....well done. Most positive things for years are going to happen . |
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Post by premieraj on Apr 29, 2024 10:18:34 GMT
That has got to be the most positive thing you have ever posted on this board....well done. Most positive things for years are going to happen . Crikey Benji don’t back yourself in a corner lol 😂 |
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Post by etebojan on Apr 29, 2024 10:23:24 GMT
That has got to be the most positive thing you have ever posted on this board....well done. Most positive things for years are going to happen . What sort of things Benj, off the pitch changes? or are you just feeling positive about Schuey + Walters and recruitment? |
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Apr 29, 2024 10:58:57 GMT
Last month has been very positive and you can start to see what he wants taking shape. I think his tenure has been a mix of encouraging and a mix of frustrating, I think if he'd been a little bit braver with team selection and sticking to his principles then we'd actually have been safe long long before Southampton.
He leans a little bit too much into the whole "little old Stoke" thing with some of his comments and set-ups but that's sort of understandable given his background. The main plus point is that I can actually stand to listen to him and he's not got the absolutely horrendous arrogance that Neil had dripping off every word coming out of his mouth.
I don't think we can get too up or down about him at this stage. He's got a full summer to make some changes but as always the pressure is on to really start making some positive steps.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Apr 29, 2024 12:04:32 GMT
Most positive things for years are going to happen . What sort of things Benj, off the pitch changes? or are you just feeling positive about Schuey + Walters and recruitment? Im just confident we have a decent top three in JC , SJW and SK and plans are in place to really kick us on with people who have the means and know how to do it . |
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Apr 29, 2024 12:06:37 GMT
Most positive things for years are going to happen . Crikey Benji don’t back yourself in a corner lol 😂 It’s coming im very confident in the leadership groups intentions nd capability and understanding of whats required to take us forward |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Apr 29, 2024 13:15:50 GMT
W8 D6 L9 F24 A30
30 points from 23 games, 1.31 PPG or 60 points over a 46 game season.
A job well done as far as I'm concerned after the Neil debacle.
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 29, 2024 13:36:24 GMT
Anyone who thinks StS is not an improvement on clueless fuck Neil needs to give their head a wobble.
Probably the same individuals who believed Neil was 'exactly what we need'.
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Post by cousindupree on Apr 29, 2024 16:35:50 GMT
W8 D6 L9 F24 A30 30 points from 23 games, 1.31 PPG or 60 points over a 46 game season. A job well done as far as I'm concerned after the Neil debacle. Thats a really interesting stat. Surely next season the team will be an improvement on the current one. If its not then SS SJW and JD will have failed miserably in the summer recruitment. So if we improve on 60pts then we be comfortable mid-table or even close to top six. |
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Post by cousindupree on Apr 29, 2024 16:44:08 GMT
Anyone who thinks StS is not an improvement on clueless fuck Neil needs to give their head a wobble. Probably the same individuals who believed Neil was 'exactly what we need'. I never got the Neil love in by quite a few posters. Many were the self proclaimed 'tactical experts' and got seduced by Neil's often wordy explanations of how we lost tactically. sadly the useless twat rarely used taht knowledge to actually win a game. He was an unlikeable arrogant individual who gave the impression he knew everything and had nothing to learn. I much prefer someone who knows there is always something new to learn. Schumacher has already stated he is an inexperienced manager who is eager to learn. I think he already shown that in his short tenure here. |
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Post by eddyclamp on Apr 29, 2024 16:51:04 GMT
The last thing we need is another manager.
I really hope SS works out for us, bring a few in and a few out in the summer, and hope we finally move forward.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Apr 29, 2024 16:53:30 GMT
Last 9 games we have 4 3 2 = 15 points. 15:9 = 1.67 per game which isn't too bad I think. Over a season that would be around 76-77 points which is very good in my opinion. It would actually be so good that we would be fighting for the play-offs! [b can’t judge off just them games though , it’s got be all of them , i’m now in the camp of keeping him, but can completely understand the argument of fucking him off , he was bought here to improve us but we still ended up in a relegation fight , nothing shout about So do you think we weren't relegation candidates when he took over or do you actually think a "good manager" should have turned us from being relegation candidates to a top half side given a January transfer window and no pre season? |
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Post by Miles Offside on Apr 29, 2024 16:58:54 GMT
The choices are either stick with Steve, or pay off yet another manager and take another gamble.
The way that we've finished the season I'd say stick with Steve - especially as Jon Walters seems to be having a positive impact.
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Post by thisisouryear on Apr 29, 2024 16:59:37 GMT
Anyone who thinks StS is not an improvement on clueless fuck Neil needs to give their head a wobble. Probably the same individuals who believed Neil was 'exactly what we need'. I never got the Neil love in by quite a few posters. Many were the self proclaimed 'tactical experts' and got seduced by Neil's often wordy explanations of how we lost tactically. sadly the useless twat rarely used taht knowledge to actually win a game. He was an unlikeable arrogant individual who gave the impression he knew everything and had nothing to learn. I much prefer someone who knows there is always something new to learn. Schumacher has already stated he is an inexperienced manager who is eager to learn. I think he already shown that in his short tenure here. I can't remember anyone liking him, he was a mercenary manager. I'm glad he has gone, he was here for the wrong reasons |
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Post by onepara on Apr 29, 2024 17:12:22 GMT
After these latest results, I've got great hope for next season. So much so, that I renewed my season card today. We have some very exciting players now, with more to follow I'm sure, from Jarod's little book. Can't wait for the good times to roll. Jump on the band-waggon, why don't you.
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Over a season that would be around 76-77 points which is very good in my opinion. It would actually be so good that we would be fighting for the play-offs! 
