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Post by knype on Mar 1, 2024 7:21:55 GMT
Do you really think Gaza was an issue when voting? I would imagine given it was Rochdale, Gaza played a big part, although if the 2 letter thing is true it absolutely stinks!
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Mar 1, 2024 7:21:57 GMT
This is laughably desperate stuff, and akin to when the Hartlepool by-election had supporters of the previous (disgraceful) Labour leader out in cult force 10. How does a candidate which Starmer removed support from, and if elected would have sat as in independent, be in anyway comparable to elections in '17 and '19. Meanwhile, Starmer's Labour party sits on poll leads of anywhere from 15 - 25 points. I feel for the people of Rochdale today, a candidate with an endorsement from Nick Griffin will darken the doorway of even the most rancid Parliament for however long it has left.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Mar 1, 2024 7:53:37 GMT
I’d say that says more about the people that live in Rochdale and it’s demographics than the politicians. It’s very strange that Galloway felt he had to give out 2 different flyers in the area if the post is true.
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Post by oggyoggy on Mar 1, 2024 7:54:56 GMT
Galloway: 12,335 Tully: 6,638 Tories: 3,731 Labour: 2,402 Lib Dems: 2,164 Reform: 1,968 Galloway absolutely tearing into Starmer over Gaza. Whether ultimately he can prove to be a genuine thorn in the side of Labour remains to be seen of course. Why doesn’t he tear into Sunak on Gaza too? Starmer and Sunak both want the same thing but Galloway only cares about personal vendettas rather than serving his constituents.
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Post by salopstick on Mar 1, 2024 7:56:59 GMT
I’d say that says more about the people that live in Rochdale and it’s demographics than the politicians. It’s very strange that Galloway felt he had to give out 2 different flyers in the area if the post is true. Politics is all about division. George Galloway will do anything to get elected. No morals
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Mar 1, 2024 8:01:29 GMT
Does this result mean that Labour has lost its support in Northern ( and London) constituencies with large Muslim votes? Is that vote enough to " win " the seat in those constituencies? Will this carry over to the next election? Will it let in more independent candidates or will it encourage the emergence of party more representative of the Muslim vote in some constituencies? Apparently the second place independent candidate was well respected in the constituency. Galloway will stand a good chance at the next election. Like him or hate him....Rochdale has elected him and his views on Gaza ( the main issue) seem broadly in line with the more regular EE contributors on this issue. .I don't think that the Gaza issue will have a great direct bearing ( imo) across the country ( ie it won't be a canvassing issue) but will have had the effect of losing Labour and the Tories votes.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Mar 1, 2024 8:13:26 GMT
Imagine waking up this morning having that vile bastard Galloway as your MP🤮🤮🤮Politics is completely fucked Indeed...almost as bad as some of the "political" figures you support eh? Clueless as usual,you deserve each other
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Post by lordb on Mar 1, 2024 8:24:43 GMT
Would Galloway have won had Starmer stance re Israel been neutral?
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Mar 1, 2024 8:32:40 GMT
What the fuck happened to Reform? In such a unique by-election where both main parties were basically taken out of the equation, their vote share decreased and they finished sixth.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Mar 1, 2024 8:34:56 GMT
Would Galloway have won had Starmer stance re Israel been neutral? How can you have a neutral stance on Gaza? Say nothing and you are tacitly supporting what Israel are doing. Galloway would still have won by (rightly) pointing out Labours refusal to address the issue shows a complete lack of backbone and an inability to deal with a major issue of the day.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Mar 1, 2024 8:37:25 GMT
Would Galloway have won had Starmer stance re Israel been neutral? How can you have a neutral stance on Gaza? Say nothing and you are tacitly supporting what Israel are doing. Galloway would still have won by (rightly) pointing out Labours refusal to address the issue shows a complete lack of backbone and an inability to deal with a major issue of the day. His “win” has nothing to do with Israel.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Mar 1, 2024 8:41:20 GMT
Indeed...almost as bad as some of the "political" figures you support eh? Clueless as usual,you deserve each other You're the Tommy Robinson fanboy mate.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Mar 1, 2024 8:41:51 GMT
What the fuck happened to Reform? In such a unique by-election where both main parties were basically taken out of the equation, their vote share decreased and they finished sixth. More concerned with more UK traditional issues than Gaza, so not directly relevant to the main issue here? I think we are seeing the emergence of " specialist issue " constituencies...I guess it is another anomaly of the British electoral system, that whilst we have a constituency system most ( imo) people vote for their national government at General elections, but not by-elections,in the main.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Mar 1, 2024 8:42:19 GMT
It’s a sad state of affairs when the likes of Galloway gets in and is as much a reflection on how bad the alternatives are.
I look at the Oatie “what changes you’d make if you were PM” thread and think we’d be better off starting our own party as I genuinely don’t feel there’s any party or politician that I feel any affinity too or trust.
The last politician / leader I remember truly thinking he’s a good guy and someone I trust was John Smith.
It’ll be interesting to see how Rochdale plays out but I don’t see it ending well.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Mar 1, 2024 8:44:45 GMT
Clueless as usual,you deserve each other You're the Tommy Robinson fanboy mate. Really🤣I posted one tweet from him once upon a time and I’m a fanboy🤷♂️As I said clueless. Go and snuggle up to Jezza and George your very own political idols🤮🤮
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Mar 1, 2024 8:48:14 GMT
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Mar 1, 2024 8:49:14 GMT
You're the Tommy Robinson fanboy mate. Really🤣I posted one tweet from him once upon a time and I’m a fanboy🤷♂️As I said clueless. Go and snuggle up to Jezza and George your very own political idols🤮🤮 I'm no fan of Galloway mate.
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Post by wagsastokie on Mar 1, 2024 8:53:33 GMT
What the fuck happened to Reform? In such a unique by-election where both main parties were basically taken out of the equation, their vote share decreased and they finished sixth. They chose a ex labour mp with a slight history of grooming 16 year old lasses
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Post by knype on Mar 1, 2024 8:54:23 GMT
What the fuck happened to Reform? In such a unique by-election where both main parties were basically taken out of the equation, their vote share decreased and they finished sixth. They chose a ex labour mp with a slight history of grooming 16 year old lasses Appropriate for Rochdale then...
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Mar 1, 2024 8:58:05 GMT
How can you have a neutral stance on Gaza? Say nothing and you are tacitly supporting what Israel are doing. Galloway would still have won by (rightly) pointing out Labours refusal to address the issue shows a complete lack of backbone and an inability to deal with a major issue of the day. His “win” has nothing to do with Israel. Labour ditched their candidate on the back of comments about Israel and Galloway's main campaigning issue was the situation in Israel. Like the "win" - not very right winger to deny an election result.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Mar 1, 2024 9:03:38 GMT
They chose a ex labour mp with a slight history of grooming 16 year old lasses Appropriate for Rochdale then... What are you implying here mate? Go on....spit it out.
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Post by gawa on Mar 1, 2024 9:07:22 GMT
What the fuck happened to Reform? In such a unique by-election where both main parties were basically taken out of the equation, their vote share decreased and they finished sixth. They stood a candidate who has history of grooming teenage girls in a town with a child grooming history. Bit of an own goal that one.
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Post by knype on Mar 1, 2024 9:08:01 GMT
Appropriate for Rochdale then... What are you implying here mate? Go on....spit it out. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to work it out does it? I'm saying that Rochdale had a big problem with grooming gangs.
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Post by fullmetaljacket on Mar 1, 2024 9:08:45 GMT
So the cat is back.
Better get a saucer of milk ready at the houses of Parliament
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Post by gawa on Mar 1, 2024 9:12:08 GMT
Big George is such an engima:
- Pro brexit - Wants controlled immigration - Can "define a woman" - Anti Scottish Independance - Ally of Farage - Pro Gaza
Maybe it's more of an indictment on how our politicians have fallen in recent years. But I'm looking forward to seeing Galloway add something different yo our politics. Not a fan of all his policies but out of the candidates which stood, I'm pleased to see one seat less for the big two parties.
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Post by Eggybread on Mar 1, 2024 9:13:59 GMT
Two new threads started around the same time today - George Galloway and Dave Myers - Similar ages, but Galloway 3 years senior. One has died and the other is back in the limelight... the world is a cruel place - clearly the good die young whilst the devil looks after his own... What a strange post.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Mar 1, 2024 9:17:20 GMT
What are you implying here mate? Go on....spit it out. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to work it out does it? I'm saying that Rochdale had a big problem with grooming gangs. Ahhhh that's ok then.
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Post by knype on Mar 1, 2024 9:20:14 GMT
Doesn't take a rocket scientist to work it out does it? I'm saying that Rochdale had a big problem with grooming gangs. Ahhhh that's ok then. Come on then, spill the beans yourself, tell me what you think I was on about?
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Post by gawa on Mar 1, 2024 9:52:42 GMT
In a by election where reform came *check notes* 6th placed they've came out and went full trump this morning 🤣. Snowflakes.
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Post by Eggybread on Mar 1, 2024 9:55:21 GMT
They chose a ex labour mp with a slight history of grooming 16 year old lasses Appropriate for Rochdale then... Why is it suitable for rochdale,are you saying the people of Rochdale deserve such an MP.
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