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Cundle?
Aug 8, 2024 8:20:00 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 8, 2024 8:20:00 GMT
It worries me that Schumacher despite managing him for half season before didn’t know how to use him until 3 games near the end.
What the fuck was that about?
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Post by baconburger on Aug 8, 2024 8:21:48 GMT
Started ok my arse. He looked like a fat non aggressive lesbian who couldn’t jump or run from the word go and when it was pointed out you begged to differ. Because I wanted him to work. And like I said I thought he started ok. And if I’m right I didn’t want us to sign him? But don’t tell that part of the story. 🤣🤣 Ah right so some players you want to work but others you don’t? Bayernsworld really does trump everything else in your mind doesn’t it. |
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Cundle?
Aug 8, 2024 8:23:25 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 8, 2024 8:23:25 GMT
Because I wanted him to work. And like I said I thought he started ok. And if I’m right I didn’t want us to sign him? But don’t tell that part of the story. 🤣🤣 Ah right so some players you want to work but others you don’t? Bayernsworld really does trump everything else in your mind doesn’t it. I want every player to work. Even the ones I didn’t want us to sign like Wimmer….. |
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Cundle?
Aug 8, 2024 8:24:38 GMT
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Post by baconburger on Aug 8, 2024 8:24:38 GMT
It worries me that Schumacher despite managing him for half season before didn’t know how to use him until 3 games near the end. What the fuck was that about? As has now being revealed he was trying to use him in a team that was resistant to his method/style. What bit of that don’t you get. |
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Cundle?
Aug 8, 2024 8:25:43 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 8, 2024 8:25:43 GMT
It worries me that Schumacher despite managing him for half season before didn’t know how to use him until 3 games near the end. What the fuck was that about? As has now being revealed he was trying to use him in a team that was resistant to his method/style. What bit of that don’t you get. All of it. What the fuck do you mean? |
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Post by baconburger on Aug 8, 2024 8:27:14 GMT
Ah right so some players you want to work but others you don’t? Bayernsworld really does trump everything else in your mind doesn’t it. I want every player to work. Even the ones I didn’t want us to sign like Wimmer….. Bollocks. You clearly have pro and anti agendas with players who are at the club. |
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Cundle?
Aug 8, 2024 8:28:56 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 8, 2024 8:28:56 GMT
I want every player to work. Even the ones I didn’t want us to sign like Wimmer….. Bollocks. You clearly have pro and anti agendas with players who are at the club. I have players I don’t like of course I do. Doesn’t everyone? 🤣 |
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Cundle?
Aug 8, 2024 8:31:43 GMT
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Post by baconburger on Aug 8, 2024 8:31:43 GMT
As has now being revealed he was trying to use him in a team that was resistant to his method/style. What bit of that don’t you get. All of it. What the fuck do you mean? The players were resistant to Schu’s style of football. It reached a watershed and he was forced to change the style to accommodate them. How can you implement a style that players are refusing to buy into successfully? This is well documented and you know it happened and indeed have commented numerous times that in your opinion it reflects badly on Schu. You’re really not very good at this. |
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Cundle?
Aug 8, 2024 8:33:24 GMT
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Post by baconburger on Aug 8, 2024 8:33:24 GMT
Bollocks. You clearly have pro and anti agendas with players who are at the club. I have players I don’t like of course I do. Doesn’t everyone? 🤣 You have players you like and you don’t like and go completely overboard in both directions. |
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Cundle?
Aug 8, 2024 8:33:26 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 8, 2024 8:33:26 GMT
All of it. What the fuck do you mean? The players were resistant to Schu’s style of football. It reached a watershed and he was forced to change the style to accommodate them. How can you implement a style that players are refusing to buy into successfully? This is well documented and you know it happened and indeed have commented numerous times that in your opinion it reflects badly on Schu. You’re really not very good at this. Oh ok. I don’t agree but it’s an interesting thing I guess. I think he just shit the bed. |
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Cundle?
Aug 8, 2024 8:33:47 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 8, 2024 8:33:47 GMT
I have players I don’t like of course I do. Doesn’t everyone? 🤣 You have players you like and you don’t like and go completely overboard in both directions. Yes. That’s called being a football fan. |
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Cundle?
Aug 8, 2024 8:41:17 GMT
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Post by baconburger on Aug 8, 2024 8:41:17 GMT
The players were resistant to Schu’s style of football. It reached a watershed and he was forced to change the style to accommodate them. How can you implement a style that players are refusing to buy into successfully? This is well documented and you know it happened and indeed have commented numerous times that in your opinion it reflects badly on Schu. You’re really not very good at this. Oh ok. I don’t agree but it’s an interesting thing I guess. I think he just shit the bed. Complete nonsense. I actually thought it was at the instruction of JW but he (Schu) later stated it was the players but would the players have done that if they didn’t think they had the ear of JW I’m still not so sure. There again I have a irrational/healthy suspicion of JW depending on your point of view. He’s actually on the record as saying he hated it what more do you want. |
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Cundle?
Aug 8, 2024 8:48:04 GMT
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Post by baconburger on Aug 8, 2024 8:48:04 GMT
You have players you like and you don’t like and go completely overboard in both directions. Yes. That’s called being a football fan. Is it really? I have a bias for larger players I’m an Arnie man more than Bojan every time. I’ve described Cundle as having the physique of a child but when it clicks with them (Bojan, Cundle types) it’s a thing of beauty and I have to take my hat off to it. At the end of the day I want exciting football that’s good to watch not primarily functional football. I don’t expect that to be done exactly to the recipe I’d personally follow. |
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Post by foxysgloves on Aug 8, 2024 8:50:40 GMT
Hmmmmmm……if the conspiracy theorists are to be believed Bacon and Bayern are the same person.
If true then we’re witnessing an epic Jekyll and Hyde moment….
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Cundle?
Aug 8, 2024 8:56:57 GMT
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Post by baconburger on Aug 8, 2024 8:56:57 GMT
Hmmmmmm……if the conspiracy theorists are to be believed Bacon and Bayern are the same person. If true then we’re witnessing an epic Jekyll and Hyde moment…. Conspiracy theorists are lunatics. The only person I recall arguing with themselves on different accounts is Hackett in one of his infamous meltdowns. |
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Post by onefatcopper on Aug 8, 2024 8:58:08 GMT
Oh ok. I don’t agree but it’s an interesting thing I guess. I think he just shit the bed. Complete nonsense. I actually thought it was at the instruction of JW but he (Schu) later stated it was the players but would the players have done that if they didn’t think they had the ear of JW I’m still not so sure. There again I have a irrational/healthy suspicion of JW depending on your point of view. He’s actually on the record as saying he hated it what more do you want. Says the person who believes that all Sports Journalists tell the truth and nothing but the truth and that their sources give 100% credibility to their leads, a Person who believes that the Sentinel is the font of all knowledge regarding Stoke City, and wouldn’t dare to print inaccuracies for fear of the wrath inflicted by Jon Coates. |
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Cundle?
Aug 8, 2024 9:01:06 GMT
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Post by baconburger on Aug 8, 2024 9:01:06 GMT
Complete nonsense. I actually thought it was at the instruction of JW but he (Schu) later stated it was the players but would the players have done that if they didn’t think they had the ear of JW I’m still not so sure. There again I have a irrational/healthy suspicion of JW depending on your point of view. He’s actually on the record as saying he hated it what more do you want. Says the person who believes that all Sports Journalists tell the truth and nothing but the truth and that their sources give 100% credibility to their leads, a Person who believes that the Sentinel is the font of all knowledge regarding Stoke City, and wouldn’t dare to print inaccuracies for fear of the wrath inflicted by Jon Coates. Changing the subject just shows you lost that particular debate. Now run along sonny. |
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Cundle?
Aug 8, 2024 9:02:33 GMT
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Post by thisisouryear on Aug 8, 2024 9:02:33 GMT
Help me out Bayern. Can you describe what makes him “wank”? Like he’s top end championship for expected assists, expected goals, progressive carries, tackling, key passes, passes into the penalty box and more. Slightly cavalier with his passing so he loses it a bit more than a lot of midfielders and he also is small so doesn’t win many headers, but that’s about it? If we could sign him for the reported £1.5m it amazes me w we haven’t already. He was missing for most of the time he was here. He had 3 good games, that’s not enough when the majority of evidence suggests he wasnt good enough at this level. Everyone was struggling, It was a newly assembled squad trying to learn about each other. In a more stable environment you would expect him to be more consistent |
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Post by baconburger on Aug 8, 2024 9:06:51 GMT
He was missing for most of the time he was here. He had 3 good games, that’s not enough when the majority of evidence suggests he wasnt good enough at this level. Everyone was struggling, It was a newly assembled squad trying to learn about each other. In a more stable environment you would expect him to be more consistent You can’t play tennis with a shuttlecock it’s that simple. |
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Cundle?
Aug 8, 2024 9:07:09 GMT
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Post by Jimm on Aug 8, 2024 9:07:09 GMT
Oh ok. I don’t agree but it’s an interesting thing I guess. I think he just shit the bed. Complete nonsense. I actually thought it was at the instruction of JW but he (Schu) later stated it was the players but would the players have done that if they didn’t think they had the ear of JW I’m still not so sure. There again I have a irrational/healthy suspicion of JW depending on your point of view. He’s actually on the record as saying he hated it what more do you want. Constantly referring to the manager as "schu" like he's your mate, is actually cringe |
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Post by thisisouryear on Aug 8, 2024 9:10:57 GMT
Everyone was struggling, It was a newly assembled squad trying to learn about each other. In a more stable environment you would expect him to be more consistent You can’t play tennis with a shuttlecock it’s that simple. The way I look at it is if you have players around you that don't particularly gel very well it can make other players look like passengers or not very good. I think we have seen enough quality in Cundle to know there is a very good player in there, a much better player than we are likely to get and a player who will improve. |
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Post by baconburger on Aug 8, 2024 9:14:24 GMT
You can’t play tennis with a shuttlecock it’s that simple. The way I look at it is if you have players around you that don't particularly gel very well it can make other players look like passengers or not very good. I think we have seen enough quality in Cundle to know there is a very good player in there, a much better player than we are likely to get and a player who will improve. You can take a very good footballer and put him in a system that doesn’t use his attributes and he’ll be ineffective. That doesn’t make him wank it makes him unsuitable for what you’re trying to do. Like the shuttlecock. |
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Cundle?
Aug 8, 2024 9:18:09 GMT
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Post by baconburger on Aug 8, 2024 9:18:09 GMT
Complete nonsense. I actually thought it was at the instruction of JW but he (Schu) later stated it was the players but would the players have done that if they didn’t think they had the ear of JW I’m still not so sure. There again I have a irrational/healthy suspicion of JW depending on your point of view. He’s actually on the record as saying he hated it what more do you want. Constantly referring to the manager as "schu" like he's your mate, is actually cringe I bet you’ve never heard of “the golden one” “Arnie” “TP” “Fonz” “Bertie” “Sparky”. Fuck me you’re a plum. Terms of endearment wow try cramming that into your tiny mind. |
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Cundle?
Aug 8, 2024 9:23:27 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 8, 2024 9:23:27 GMT
He was missing for most of the time he was here. He had 3 good games, that’s not enough when the majority of evidence suggests he wasnt good enough at this level. Everyone was struggling, It was a newly assembled squad trying to learn about each other. In a more stable environment you would expect him to be more consistent Where is the stable environment? |
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Post by stokesupporter on Aug 8, 2024 9:26:20 GMT
Everyone was struggling, It was a newly assembled squad trying to learn about each other. In a more stable environment you would expect him to be more consistent Where is the stable environment?  |
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Cundle?
Aug 8, 2024 9:28:12 GMT
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Post by baconburger on Aug 8, 2024 9:28:12 GMT
Everyone was struggling, It was a newly assembled squad trying to learn about each other. In a more stable environment you would expect him to be more consistent Where is the stable environment? It’s meant to be that’s what the change in structure is intended to create. Not saying it’s been executed well but then that’s JC for you. |
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Cundle?
Aug 8, 2024 9:32:36 GMT
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Post by thornestein on Aug 8, 2024 9:32:36 GMT
Because I wanted him to work. And like I said I thought he started ok. And if I’m right I didn’t want us to sign him? But don’t tell that part of the story. 🤣🤣 Ah right so some players you want to work but others you don’t? Bayernsworld really does trump everything else in your mind doesn’t it. pot kettle and all that |
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Post by stokecakesandcheese on Aug 8, 2024 9:34:58 GMT
Came on to see if there was any news on Cundle. Spent my break reading through petty arguments, as per.
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Post by LGH87 on Aug 8, 2024 9:38:31 GMT
some serious empty space on this thread for people that have them both blocked.
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Aug 8, 2024 9:49:32 GMT
Don't really want him back just based upon a good ending to the season when we were playing well. He doesn't show up for the grinding matches which are the majority of games in a championship season If we put our creative hopes on Cundle next season we probably deserve to be bottom half. Great idea set your team up for grinding thank fuck for Schu. There are 2 teams in every game you idiot. Free flowing football every week is pretty impossible to achieve in this league and Cundle is next to useless when we are being more defensive |
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