Cundle?

[robwahlmann]

Am I the only one thinking we have looked much weaker in midfield after his introduction? I try, but I really struggle to see what he brings to the team. How a manager can pick him and leave Junho on the subs bench is really beyond my understanding. One of the two is a class act and the other is mediocre at best at this level! What's going on!!!

[bayernoatcake]

Beyond wank

[gingerninja]

I thought second half he and Jun ho were our best players.

[robwahlmann]

Feb 4, 2024 10:24:12 GMT gingerninja said:

I thought second half he and Jun ho were our best players.

I agree about one of the two mentioned, the other one was invisible in my opinion.

[lrsfcstokie]

Thought he looked OK at 0-0 then vanished. Baker offers more

[boskampsflaps]

Feb 4, 2024 10:26:55 GMT lrsfcstokie said:

Thought he looked OK at 0-0 then vanished. Baker offers more

Baker offers nothing.

[CBUFAWKIPWH]

There's a weird Cundle bashing bandwagon - he's clearly Schumacher's choice and it almost feels like he's become the proxy for bashing the manager without breaking ranks and actually bashing the manager this early in his tenure. Personally I don't think he's looked that bad - lots of energy, a good first touch and in the Birmingham game linked up well with JunHo. Way too early to write him off.

In his first few games in charge Schumacher built on the solidity established by Gallagher - we weren't scoring goals and winning games but we had become hard to beat. It wasn't Schumacher's style - he clearly prefers a more expansive game with the midfield committing to attack more. Cundle was brought in to do just that and it's made us weaker defensively and the link up play between the attack and midfield hasn't gelled yet so we aren't scoring more goals either. Cundle is getting the flak for a change in our playing style that isn't working at the moment. That's on Schumacher - Cundle is the fall guy.

Schumacher either reverts to the Gallagher set up and grinds out results or sticks to his guns and tries to get his preferred style of play to work - which means persisting with the likes of Cundle and trying to get the team to function the way he wants it. Cundle is only going to look a decent player when the team is functioning better as a unit because he's a cog in that wheel and it's the wheel working that matters.

Personally I hope Schumacher commits to his preferred playing style. We will continue to have poor results for some time until/unless what he's trying to do comes off. This is an appointment very much in the Jones mould (although I think Schumacher has more about him than Jones) - if it goes wrong it will go wrong big time but I'd rather he stick to his principles. When Jones ditched his diamond it was all over for him - I think a fundamental change in approach that would mark the end for Schumacher as well.

[davejohnno1]

He’s worse than Will Smallbone. Let that sink in!

[davejohnno1]

Feb 4, 2024 10:49:24 GMT CBUFAWKIPWH said:

There's a weird Cundle bashing bandwagon - he's clearly Schumacher's choice and it almost feels like he's become the proxy for bashing the manager without breaking ranks and actually bashing the manager this early in his tenure. Personally I don't think he's looked that bad - lots of energy, a good first touch and in the Birmingham game linked up well with JunHo. Way too early to write him off.

In his first few games in charge Schumacher built on the solidity established by Gallagher - we weren't scoring goals and winning games but we had become hard to beat. It wasn't Schumacher's style - he clearly prefers a more expansive game with the midfield committing to attack more. Cundle was brought in to do just that and it's made us weaker defensively and the link up play between the attack and midfield hasn't gelled yet so we aren't scoring more goals either. Cundle is getting the flak for a change in our playing style that isn't working at the moment. That's on Schumacher - Cundle is the fall guy.

Schumacher either reverts to the Gallagher set up and grinds out results or sticks to his guns and tries to get his preferred style of play to work - which means persisting with the likes of Cundle and trying to get the team to function the way he wants it. Cundle is only going to look a decent player when the team is functioning better as a unit because he's a cog in that wheel and it's the wheel working that matters.

Personally I hope Schumacher commits to his preferred playing style. We will continue to have poor results for some time until/unless what he's trying to do comes off. This is an appointment very much in the Jones mould (although I think Schumacher has more about him than Jones) - if it goes wrong it will go wrong big time but I'd rather he stick to his principles. When Jones ditched his diamond it was all over for him - I think a fundamental change in approach that would mark the end for Schumacher as well.

The players do t like or understand his preferred style of play.

With underlapping full backs he’s trying to play like Man City with players barely good enough to play for Port Vale

[Scrotnig]

We need to drop his “preferred style of football”….whatever it actually is….and just try to not lose games all the time.

We can’t score so trying to play attacking football or anything like it is completely pointless. Instead we just concede loads.

[stokemark]

Cundle was brought in when we had so many other far more critical positions to fill. He's offered nothing that Junho and Baker couldnt offer and it was an utter waste of a loan when our defence is utter shite and we have the worst combination of strikers for many many years

[gingerninja]

Dave, are you just deducing the players don't like his style of play, or is that what you've heard?.

[ChesterStokie]

Feb 4, 2024 10:58:45 GMT davejohnno1 said:

He’s worse than Will Smallbone. Let that sink in!

Is that the same Will Smallbone who has been one of the stars of Southampton’s current record breaking unbeaten run?

[stokemark]

Feb 4, 2024 11:16:53 GMT ChesterStokie said:

Feb 4, 2024 10:58:45 GMT davejohnno1 said:

He’s worse than Will Smallbone. Let that sink in!

Is that the same Will Smallbone who has been one of the stars of Southampton’s current record breaking unbeaten run?

Stupid comment - Smallbone was and is a very good player

[bayernoatcake]

Feb 4, 2024 11:18:01 GMT stokemark said:

Feb 4, 2024 11:16:53 GMT ChesterStokie said:

Is that the same Will Smallbone who has been one of the stars of Southampton’s current record breaking unbeaten run?

Stupid comment - Smallbone was and is a very good player

He’s wank.

[Trouserdog]

Runs around a lot looking busy without actually doing anything.

[ashleyscfc]

We need Laurent, baker and burger against a more physical midfield

Burger, Laurent and Jun ho in a less physical midfield

Cundle is no better than what we have

[robwahlmann]

Feb 4, 2024 11:15:43 GMT stokemark said:

Cundle was brought in when we had so many other far more critical positions to fill. He's offered nothing that Junho and Baker couldnt offer and it was an utter waste of a loan when our defence is utter shite and we have the worst combination of strikers for many many years

At least 3 positions were more important to fill, a left back, a central defender and a striker! We brought two strikers in, but still lacks a left back and none of our central defenders are good enough!

[thisisouryear]

Schumacher needs to stick with him and to the way he wants the team to play. It's up to the players around Cundle to adapt.

[stokemark]

Feb 4, 2024 11:18:43 GMT bayernoatcake said:

Feb 4, 2024 11:18:01 GMT stokemark said:

Stupid comment - Smallbone was and is a very good player

He’s wank.

Yeh right - that's why he's playing for a top two side in this division on a regular basis

[bayernoatcake]

Feb 4, 2024 11:24:17 GMT stokemark said:

Feb 4, 2024 11:18:43 GMT bayernoatcake said:

He’s wank.

Yeh right - that's why he's playing for a top two side in this division on a regular basis

Wank players get into good teams all the time. An absolute nothing player.

[stokemark]

Feb 4, 2024 11:22:36 GMT thisisouryear said:

Schumacher needs to stick with him and to the way he wants the team to play. It's up to the players around Cundle to adapt.

Suicide

[stokemark]

Feb 4, 2024 11:25:55 GMT bayernoatcake said:

Feb 4, 2024 11:24:17 GMT stokemark said:

Yeh right - that's why he's playing for a top two side in this division on a regular basis

Wank players get into good teams all the time. An absolute nothing player.

You are behaving like a big baby as usual

[bigjohnritchie]

I think Cundle will be a good player .......in a good team.

Obviously the challenge is to get there.

I think he us creating some understanding with Burger

[bayernoatcake]

Feb 4, 2024 11:27:16 GMT stokemark said:

Feb 4, 2024 11:25:55 GMT bayernoatcake said:

Wank players get into good teams all the time. An absolute nothing player.

You are behaving like a big baby as usual

But it’s true. We’ve had plenty like Mama for instance. It happens. Smallbone is a bits and pieces nothing midfielder.

[mattythestokie]

The definition of a nothing player. Don’t even realise he’s playing. In a position where we need an effective player.

[mcw]

Smallbone is way better, he’s more of a Burger role player. Him, Burger with Jun Ho as a forward playing central midfielder would have been great.
I’m no quite sure why the hell we have accumulated a number of forward players that are neither one thing nor another- Cundle, Haks, Leris, Vidigal, Campbell and now Million.

[ChesterStokie]

Feb 4, 2024 11:36:01 GMT mcw said:

Smallbone is way better, he’s more of a Burger role player. Him, Burger with Jun Ho as a forward playing central midfielder would have been great.

I’m no quite sure why the hell we have accumulated a number of forward players that are neither one thing nor another- Cundle, Haks, Leris, Vidigal, Campbell and now Million.

I think you’ve gone a little early there on Million!

[logdog]

Feb 4, 2024 11:28:34 GMT bayernoatcake said:

Feb 4, 2024 11:27:16 GMT stokemark said:

You are behaving like a big baby as usual

But it’s true. We’ve had plenty like Mama for instance. It happens. Smallbone is a bits and pieces nothing midfielder.

Listen to this guy. Comedy gold. How many professional clubs have you managed again, Bayern? Smallbone is just another one in a long, long line of good players who has signed for our club & suddenly looked pretty average/crap. It’s what we do.

[thisisouryear]

Feb 4, 2024 11:26:50 GMT stokemark said:

Feb 4, 2024 11:22:36 GMT thisisouryear said:

Schumacher needs to stick with him and to the way he wants the team to play. It's up to the players around Cundle to adapt.

Suicide

The players need to adapt to Schumacher's way of playing and the type of players he likes in certain positions. He needs to stick with Cundle and let them build a relationship with him on the pitch. Learn his strengths and weaknesses and the team will start to evolve.