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Post by stokeypenn89 on Dec 13, 2023 13:04:01 GMT
He literally didn't get the job through playing Football Manager 🤣 studied coaching since he left school and been involved in management at professional clubs since 2017. Got Reims massively over achieving. I highly doubt Coates would take the gamble though but looks like Sunderland may do. But yet had zero coaching badges when he started at reims..which is the same as everyone else on here..fuck all. We aren't in a position to take a risk on someone like that while we're in 19th. I swear some people just want the clubs name in the papers and online articles more and that's why they want him 🤣 He does have coaching badges, just didn't have the one you require to manage in a top division. Which he has now completed I believe. People want him because he's an exciting young manager that has massively improved a club at such a young age in his first full time position
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Post by FullerMagic on Dec 13, 2023 13:06:40 GMT
I am on the JDT train big time, I think it could happen 🤞👍 Fingers crossed! My heart sank a bit last night when I saw that picture of Eustace - not because he hasn't got some merit, but because I thought they were going to steam into their usual cookie jar without taking stock properly. At least it looks like they're going to have a good think about things. I'd be massively enthused by JDT.
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Post by chigstoke on Dec 13, 2023 13:08:08 GMT
JDT steaming into 3/1 on BetVictor... This is going to sting when Alan Pardew is the 'high calibre manager' that we hire. I can see it coming a million miles away.
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Post by robstokie on Dec 13, 2023 13:09:26 GMT
I am on the JDT train big time, I think it could happen 🤞👍 Fingers crossed! My heart sank a bit last night when I saw that picture of Eustace - not because he hasn't got some merit, but because I thought they were going to steam into their usual cookie jar without taking stock properly. At least it looks like they're going to have a good think about things. I'd be massively enthused by JDT. Could be worse, we could have seen Dean Holden up in the directors box with John Coates!! Oh, Wait....
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Post by gingerninja on Dec 13, 2023 13:09:51 GMT
I would imagine Eustace would be the fall back, if certain preferred choices don't work out, I would be happy with that, a few weeks ago I was very much pro Eustace, time though has made me think we could perhaps look a bit further afield. We will see, would expect some more definitive links later today.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2023 13:12:36 GMT
JDT steaming into 3/1 on BetVictor... This is going to sting when Alan Pardew is the 'high calibre manager' that we hire. I can see it coming a million miles away.
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Post by chigstoke on Dec 13, 2023 13:13:37 GMT
This is going to sting when Alan Pardew is the 'high calibre manager' that we hire. I can see it coming a million miles away. The sort of showmanship we need from a manager after we go 1-0 up away at Rotherham
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Post by datguy on Dec 13, 2023 13:16:16 GMT
If it is eustace why wasn’t he with Coates last night surely he would have been no? Because he was simply watching two teams with vacant manager spots so when he inevitably gets called for an interview he can provide analysis.
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Post by dutchstokie on Dec 13, 2023 13:18:35 GMT
This is going to sting when Alan Pardew is the 'high calibre manager' that we hire. I can see it coming a million miles away. Theres some talent in this list thats available ( NOT the usual shit like Allardyce, OGS Pardew etc).......we just need to have the balls to ask.... www.transfermarkt.com/trainer/verfuegbaretrainer/statistik
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Post by questionable on Dec 13, 2023 13:18:50 GMT
Given the vasts of empty seats last night if Stoke don’t get it right I can see us free falling for some time
Myself I can’t see the owners getting it right
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Post by tallerthancrouch on Dec 13, 2023 13:24:25 GMT
Stoke can’t afford JDT,
It’s Eustace 2.5 year deal 👀 ☑️
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Post by beats88 on Dec 13, 2023 13:25:20 GMT
Given the vasts of empty seats last night if Stoke don’t get it right I can see us free falling for some time Myself I can’t see the owners getting it right A broken clock is right twice a day. I am praying the hands align on the next appointment.
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Post by KyleLightbulb on Dec 13, 2023 13:27:04 GMT
He literally didn't get the job through playing Football Manager 🤣 studied coaching since he left school and been involved in management at professional clubs since 2017. Got Reims massively over achieving. I highly doubt Coates would take the gamble though but looks like Sunderland may do. But yet had zero coaching badges when he started at reims..which is the same as everyone else on here..fuck all. We aren't in a position to take a risk on someone like that while we're in 19th. I swear some people just want the clubs name in the papers and online articles more and that's why they want him 🤣 Gonna be honest mate, you sound like you read one LadBible headline about Will Still and decided those were the facts... If you look into his coaching history, the only thing he's missing is the final step, the UEFA Pro licence. And this is because there are very limited spaces for the course itself (20 per year) which also lasts 18 months & they have to clear a COVID-induced backlog as well. I don't even think he'd need that licence to coach here as we're a second-tier club.
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Post by FullerMagic on Dec 13, 2023 13:37:27 GMT
Price requested on Nuno - and they've priced him up at 9s
John Eustace 1/1 Jon Dahl Tomasson 3/1 Paul Heckingbottom 5/1 Dick Schreuder 9/1 Nuno Espirito Santo 9/1 Tony Mowbray 9/1 Dean Holden 14/1 Graham Potter 14/1 Sam Allardyce 20/1 Scott Parker 20/1
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Post by gingerninja on Dec 13, 2023 13:37:57 GMT
I would imagine if we approached Potter, we could probably afford JDT don't you think 🤔
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Post by Clayton Wood on Dec 13, 2023 13:39:28 GMT
I am on the JDT train big time, I think it could happen 🤞👍 Fingers crossed! My heart sank a bit last night when I saw that picture of Eustace - not because he hasn't got some merit, but because I thought they were going to steam into their usual cookie jar without taking stock properly. At least it looks like they're going to have a good think about things. I'd be massively enthused by JDT. You waiting for Yankee Google Dandy to run his algorithms' across the deep web rather than JC to thumb the Yellow Pages?
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Post by retrostoke on Dec 13, 2023 13:40:26 GMT
Price requested on Nuno - and they've priced him up at 9s John Eustace 1/1 Jon Dahl Tomasson 3/1 Paul Heckingbottom 5/1 Dick Schreuder 9/1 Nuno Espirito Santo 9/1 Tony Mowbray 9/1 Dean Holden 14/1 Graham Potter 14/1 Sam Allardyce 20/1 Scott Parker 20/1 Was that Bet365 😂
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Dec 13, 2023 13:41:21 GMT
I want us to play attractive football but playing it for the sake of it is just stupid. I think a lot of people on this board, and football fans in general, conflate attractive football and attacking football. I want to see us playing front foot, positive, attacking football. I don’t really care if it’s attractive in the conventional short passing sense or not. By attractive I mean front foot, positive, attacking football. By unattractive football I mean setting your stall out to be defensive and nick games out of taking the few chances created. A short passing game can be either attractive or unattractive in this sense as can a long ball game. The thing for me is if you are in a relegation battle by definition you aren't as good as most of the opposition and the margin between relegation and staying up is so tight a handful of draws playing defensive football over the same handful of losses going for broke can make the difference so sometimes managers have to temper their attacking principles to the situation they are in. A team whose strength is defending and are orientated to defending are less likely to get relegated than a decent attacking side with a crap defence. Equally a defensively minded team is less likely to get promoted - the ideal is a team with a defence that is so rock solid it can afford to play attacking football knowing the chances are they won't get caught out at the back. The attacking side of our game isn't good enough to compensate for our flakey defence and it won't get better until the defence is sorted and they can focus more on the attacking side rather than compensate for our deficiencies at the back. As it stands I'd take pragmatic football but that doesn't mean I want that long term. Going back to Eustace his record to date suggests he can do both as the situation demands. That sounds good to me.
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Post by shakermaker on Dec 13, 2023 13:46:56 GMT
No fiction in what I said above. Blackburn were in strong contention for the playoffs and in Top 2 form till mid-November, then they collapsed. It is sensible due diligence to understand why that happened, especially with a forward line of not just Brereton, but also Gallagher and Szmodics that's streets ahead of ours. If it was down to JDT's poor tactics, that's obviously something we want to avoid. JDT definitely struggled to get the team and strikers scoring in his first season. I don’t really know what that tells you being as they’re scoring an above average number this season. Is it negative that it happened or positive he’s managed to solve it . I honestly don’t think Pep or Klopp or any other elite manager could get our forwards scoring they’re to put not too fine a point on it wank. I don't disagree JDT has his team playing far better football than this point last season, yet ironically, they are in 11th position now instead of top of the league - it's a funny old game! I just think that if we're going to spend money on poaching a manager, we may as well try and get Corberán from WBA who I think is top drawer.
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Post by FullerMagic on Dec 13, 2023 13:49:57 GMT
JDT definitely struggled to get the team and strikers scoring in his first season. I don’t really know what that tells you being as they’re scoring an above average number this season. Is it negative that it happened or positive he’s managed to solve it . I honestly don’t think Pep or Klopp or any other elite manager could get our forwards scoring they’re to put not too fine a point on it wank. I don't disagree JDT has his team playing far better football than this point last season, yet ironically, they are in 11th position now instead of top of the league - it's a funny old game! I just think that if we're going to spend money on poaching a manager, we may as well try and get Corberán from WBA who I think is top drawer. It's tight up there (not that we'd know!), but they have crept up to 8th now, and have won 7 of their last 11 They seem to be confident of a takeover at WBA now, so that ship has probably sailed if it was ever realistic
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Post by Olgrligm on Dec 13, 2023 13:50:16 GMT
This post isn't intended as a wind up like the Roy Keane stuff.
Last night, people around me kept talking about Frank Lampard being in the frame. There are no odds on him on the most recent list posted and no discussion about him.
Is there any credit in this? Just seems weird that so many people were talking about him last night but there's nothing on here.
And no, this is absolutely not a 'let's appoint Frank Lampard' post.
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Post by chuckrocky on Dec 13, 2023 13:51:41 GMT
Price requested on Nuno - and they've priced him up at 9s John Eustace 1/1 Jon Dahl Tomasson 3/1 Paul Heckingbottom 5/1 Dick Schreuder 9/1 Nuno Espirito Santo 9/1 Tony Mowbray 9/1 Dean Holden 14/1 Graham Potter 14/1 Sam Allardyce 20/1 Scott Parker 20/1 Does he still have links with Jorge Mendes?
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Post by LGH87 on Dec 13, 2023 13:52:34 GMT
Price requested on Nuno - and they've priced him up at 9s John Eustace 1/1 Jon Dahl Tomasson 3/1 Paul Heckingbottom 5/1 Dick Schreuder 9/1 Nuno Espirito Santo 9/1 Tony Mowbray 9/1 Dean Holden 14/1 Graham Potter 14/1 Sam Allardyce 20/1 Scott Parker 20/1 Was 14s initially they matched BV. Hills were a standout 20s
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Post by FullerMagic on Dec 13, 2023 13:56:49 GMT
Price requested on Nuno - and they've priced him up at 9s John Eustace 1/1 Jon Dahl Tomasson 3/1 Paul Heckingbottom 5/1 Dick Schreuder 9/1 Nuno Espirito Santo 9/1 Tony Mowbray 9/1 Dean Holden 14/1 Graham Potter 14/1 Sam Allardyce 20/1 Scott Parker 20/1 Was 14s initially they matched BV. Hills were a standout 20s Interesting - one to watch if there's a bit more steam behind him in the next hour
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Post by jokker on Dec 13, 2023 14:02:26 GMT
[quote author=" dutchstokie" source="/post/7985340/thread" timestamp="1702473515"Theres some talent in this list thats available ( NOT the usual shit like Allardyce, OGS Pardew etc).......we just need to have the balls to ask.... www.transfermarkt.com/trainer/verfuegbaretrainer/statistik[/quote] Thinking we couldn't possibly get anyone from the top of the list, I started at the bottom of the page, on page 20, and there certainly are some interesting names there. The one I would pick from it is Guti aka José María Gutiérrez Hernández.
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Post by FullerMagic on Dec 13, 2023 14:02:40 GMT
Rob Dorsett @robdorsettsky
Former #bcfc manager John Eustace and ex #sunderland and #wbafc boss Tony Mowbray are among the leading candidates to take over at #scfc, I’m told.
Ex #Fulham Slavisa Jakanovic is also on shortlist -though still lots of names in frame, as club determined to do exhaustive search.
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Post by Pirate on Dec 13, 2023 14:03:31 GMT
Was 14s initially they matched BV. Hills were a standout 20s Interesting - one to watch if there's a bit more steam behind him in the next hour Nuno would have been my first pick from the onset, though i have been totally seduced by JDT since, so either of those would see me happy
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2023 14:04:22 GMT
Rob Dorsett @robdorsettsky Former #bcfc manager John Eustace and ex #sunderland and #wbafc boss Tony Mowbray are among the leading candidates to take over at #scfc, I’m told. Ex #Fulham Slavisa Jakanovic is also on shortlist -though still lots of names in frame, as club determined to do exhaustive search. Rob Dorsett, good lord. Is he still pretending to know stuff then?
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Post by scfcno1fan on Dec 13, 2023 14:05:38 GMT
Rob Dorsett @robdorsettskyFormer #bcfc manager John Eustace and ex #sunderland and #wbafc boss Tony Mowbray are among the leading candidates to take over at #scfc, I’m told. Ex #Fulham Slavisa Jakanovic is also on shortlist -though still lots of names in frame, as club determined to do exhaustive search. Dorsett doesn’t know much these days does he?
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Post by FullerMagic on Dec 13, 2023 14:05:43 GMT
Rob Dorsett @robdorsettsky Former #bcfc manager John Eustace and ex #sunderland and #wbafc boss Tony Mowbray are among the leading candidates to take over at #scfc, I’m told. Ex #Fulham Slavisa Jakanovic is also on shortlist -though still lots of names in frame, as club determined to do exhaustive search. Rob Dorsett, good lord. Is he still pretending to know stuff then? The mention of Jokanovic is interesting though, given he was widely reported to be John's top target before Jones got it And talk of an "extensive search"!
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