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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2023 14:08:12 GMT
Rob Dorsett, good lord. Is he still pretending to know stuff then? The mention of Jokanovic is interesting though, given he was widely reported to be John's top target before Jones got it And talk of an "extensive search"! And it’s probably the exact reason he’s mentioned him now. The guy knows about as much as we do on here about our shortlist. Which, collectively, is about the square root of naff all 😅
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Post by jokker on Dec 13, 2023 14:08:58 GMT
JDT definitely struggled to get the team and strikers scoring in his first season. I don’t really know what that tells you being as they’re scoring an above average number this season. Is it negative that it happened or positive he’s managed to solve it . I honestly don’t think Pep or Klopp or any other elite manager could get our forwards scoring they’re to put not too fine a point on it wank. I don't disagree JDT has his team playing far better football than this point last season, yet ironically, they are in 11th position now instead of top of the league - it's a funny old game! I just think that if we're going to spend money on poaching a manager, we may as well try and get Corberán from WBA who I think is top drawer. The way the table still hasn't settled you can't place any value on a current position . which by the way is 8th today after yesterday's results. They're obviously not in the top 2, but they're just two pts away from the POs.
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Post by shakermaker on Dec 13, 2023 14:11:15 GMT
I don't disagree JDT has his team playing far better football than this point last season, yet ironically, they are in 11th position now instead of top of the league - it's a funny old game! I just think that if we're going to spend money on poaching a manager, we may as well try and get Corberán from WBA who I think is top drawer. It's tight up there (not that we'd know!), but they have crept up to 8th now, and have won 7 of their last 11 They seem to be confident of a takeover at WBA now, so that ship has probably sailed if it was ever realistic Worth pointing out though that to go with those 7 wins have been 4 losses (two of those to Sheffield Wednesday and the pile of crap we played last night!). JDT's sides are certainly inconsistent – when they're on it, they're up there with the best but they are also quite vulnerable. Tightening up our defence and weak backbone has to be a pr-requisite for anyone incoming and I just wonder whether JDT is the man for that.
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Post by FullerMagic on Dec 13, 2023 14:11:27 GMT
Price requested on Nuno - and they've priced him up at 9s John Eustace 1/1 Jon Dahl Tomasson 3/1 Paul Heckingbottom 5/1 Dick Schreuder 9/1 Nuno Espirito Santo 9/1 Tony Mowbray 9/1 Dean Holden 14/1 Graham Potter 14/1 Sam Allardyce 20/1 Scott Parker 20/1 Does he still have links with Jorge Mendes? Not sure to be honest. He's still listed as being represented by Gestifute, but what that'd mean to any club he went to, who knows?
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Post by FullerMagic on Dec 13, 2023 14:12:26 GMT
The mention of Jokanovic is interesting though, given he was widely reported to be John's top target before Jones got it And talk of an "extensive search"! And it’s probably the exact reason he’s mentioned him now. The guy knows about as much as we do on here about our shortlist. Which, collectively, is about the square root of naff all 😅 Oh well, it all adds to the fun! Better than the quick Eustace coronation I was fearing last night
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2023 14:13:25 GMT
And it’s probably the exact reason he’s mentioned him now. The guy knows about as much as we do on here about our shortlist. Which, collectively, is about the square root of naff all 😅 Oh well, it all adds to the fun! Better than the quick Eustace coronation I was fearing last night Indeed buddy, indeed.
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Post by cja103 on Dec 13, 2023 14:14:11 GMT
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Post by vidigal7 on Dec 13, 2023 14:14:43 GMT
I dont see where this league 1 stuff comes from. So that's professionalism winning mentality, Geography for loan players First dibs on Man Utd loan players Leadership Ambition Advertisement dream for 365 ( media coverage) Player pulling power Good football It's the only sensible and secure option Agree with all that but their track record is very unispiring plus they would be torn between this role and their media roles All very concerning 😟 I'm on board with that point, it's a good one, if media is a must do thing reguarly well in the job I wouldn't even entertain them. I'd be suprised if it was though, if it was they're clearly not right for the job
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Post by gingerninja on Dec 13, 2023 14:16:22 GMT
Do we know who has also applied for the job Lee?
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Post by vidigal7 on Dec 13, 2023 14:16:29 GMT
I dont see where this league 1 stuff comes from. So that's professionalism winning mentality, Geography for loan players First dibs on Man Utd loan players Leadership Ambition Advertisement dream for 365 ( media coverage) Player pulling power Good football It's the only sensible and secure option Roy Keane.....? God help us. This is the man who walked out on his mates at the world cup and questioned one of his players ' heart for the game' .....after said player just suffered a unexpected illness (cant remember exactly what it was - its out there on ' t-interweb If he managed the club that would be the end of me and this club...... and I nearly got the sack because of him !!! ( my fault though) I dont think anyone is/has been squeaky clean. I've heard Keane Carol sings now at the local parish
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Post by stokeykez on Dec 13, 2023 14:18:58 GMT
The mention of Jokanovic is interesting though, given he was widely reported to be John's top target before Jones got it And talk of an "extensive search"! And it’s probably the exact reason he’s mentioned him now. The guy knows about as much as we do on here about our shortlist. Which, collectively, is about the square root of naff all 😅 Between scouting on here and reading the betting odds , he has put 5 and 5 together and come up with 15
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Dec 13, 2023 14:19:41 GMT
Price requested on Nuno - and they've priced him up at 9s John Eustace 1/1 Jon Dahl Tomasson 3/1 Paul Heckingbottom 5/1 Dick Schreuder 9/1 Nuno Espirito Santo 9/1 Tony Mowbray 9/1 Dean Holden 14/1 Graham Potter 14/1 Sam Allardyce 20/1 Scott Parker 20/1 Probably the same price they'd quote me if I rang up and asked them what odds they'd give me on Brian Clough. The thing about the bookies odds is that it reflects the odds that will maximise their profits, not the odds of it actually happening.
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Post by stokeykez on Dec 13, 2023 14:19:44 GMT
I would be happy with nuno
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Post by Goonie on Dec 13, 2023 14:21:26 GMT
Could he do it on a wet Tuesday night in Stoke without the support of half the Portuguese national side and an accommodating agent? 🤔
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2023 14:22:59 GMT
Nuno has applied for it or we've approached him?
If he's applied for it then the landscape has changed...
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Post by FullerMagic on Dec 13, 2023 14:24:08 GMT
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Post by stokeykez on Dec 13, 2023 14:24:09 GMT
Could he do it on a wet Tuesday night in Stoke without the support of half the Portuguese national side and an accommodating agent? 🤔 Well he did it down the road at wanky wanderers , so ye reckon so, lets go portugeezer
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Post by canadianmoose on Dec 13, 2023 14:30:18 GMT
Nuno has applied for it or we've approached him? If he's applied for it then the landscape has changed... Agreed. Applying for it would be a big deal.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Dec 13, 2023 14:32:28 GMT
NES ....yes PLEASE!!!!
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Post by mosquito on Dec 13, 2023 14:34:20 GMT
I would be happy with nuno When I first heard the news about AN, my first choices were Potter and Nuno if we could get either. So I would be very happy with Nuno
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Post by potter25 on Dec 13, 2023 14:34:47 GMT
Nuno would sort both the discipline and good football on show
He’s the best on any list by far
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Post by baconburger on Dec 13, 2023 14:38:40 GMT
Pisses me off too but I’m not anti passing or possession players just need to be instructed to take responsibility for being more positive. I think we deserve something better than cagey low possession, no territorial advantage counter attacking football particularly at home. I just want to see us try to grab games by the scruff of the neck and shake them till they’re dead. If that ends in defeat so be it. I'm not disagreeing at all with that. My point was that "attractive football" gets a free ride because some morons think it's stylish to pass the ball around on the ground, and it's better to not win if you play "pretty". Fuck that. I want us to win, and it doesn't matter how. You can still play attacking football even if you set your pressing zone lower on the pitch. In the main my enjoyment of football is directly linked to the amount of goals the team scores. Say it quietly but I even quite enjoyed Pulisball in that brief period he got the team scoring goals prior to the cup final and the first half of promotion season. Not enough to make up for the other about 9 years of misery don’t worry I’m not turning into a Rimmer.
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Post by stokeykez on Dec 13, 2023 14:39:56 GMT
I would be happy with nuno When I first heard the news about AN, my first choices were Potter and Nuno if we could get either. So I would be very happy with Nuno Certainly got wolves ticking and ran away with the championship
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Post by LGH87 on Dec 13, 2023 14:40:20 GMT
Nuno still 14s with BV for anyone wishing to have a 5er on.
You may want to get on before his interview tomorrow.
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Post by stokiesteve on Dec 13, 2023 14:40:43 GMT
Price requested on Nuno - and they've priced him up at 9s John Eustace 1/1 Jon Dahl Tomasson 3/1 Paul Heckingbottom 5/1 Dick Schreuder 9/1 Nuno Espirito Santo 9/1 Tony Mowbray 9/1 Dean Holden 14/1 Graham Potter 14/1 Sam Allardyce 20/1 Scott Parker 20/1 Probably the same price they'd quote me if I rang up and asked them what odds they'd give me on Brian Clough. The thing about the bookies odds is that it reflects the odds that will maximise their profits, not the odds of it actually happening. Absolutely - this happens a lot
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Post by GeneralFaye on Dec 13, 2023 14:41:33 GMT
Don't think Nuno would be the worst choice with the squad we have tbh.
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Post by scfcno1fan on Dec 13, 2023 14:42:11 GMT
Nuno would be bloody brilliant.
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Post by gawa on Dec 13, 2023 14:43:27 GMT
Nuno would be a class appointment. Feels a bit surreal though that he was doing a great job at Wolves in Europe and then went to Spurs and Saudi and is now coming to Stoke 3 points above relegation?
If the directors can sell the club and plan to him though then happy days. Not many better managers than that in the division.
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Post by idle on Dec 13, 2023 14:43:39 GMT
I'm not disagreeing at all with that. My point was that "attractive football" gets a free ride because some morons think it's stylish to pass the ball around on the ground, and it's better to not win if you play "pretty". Fuck that. I want us to win, and it doesn't matter how. You can still play attacking football even if you set your pressing zone lower on the pitch. In the main my enjoyment of football is directly linked to the amount of goals the team scores. Say it quietly but I even quite enjoyed Pulisball in that brief period he got the team scoring goals prior to the cup final and the first half of promotion season. Not enough to make up for the other about 9 years of misery don’t worry I’m not turning into a Rimmer. Isn't that a bit simplistic? I enjoy a 1-0 winner in the 90th minute more than a win when we're 2-0 up at half time, 2-1 at full time.
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Post by baconburger on Dec 13, 2023 14:43:40 GMT
Don't think Nuno would be the worst choice with the squad we have tbh. It would take Merlin the magician to get any goals out of them. Is he available?
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