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Post by Biblical on Dec 13, 2023 7:14:03 GMT
Really don’t get the issue with Eustace? Did a miracle to keep them up. Started really well this season. There’s nothing not to like really. He’s not some unknown foreign bloke that ideally I’d want but of the ones that are realistic he’s top 2 of the best of them. He’s meant to be a very good coach. His win % is very similar to Neil’s whilst he was at Stoke. It’s hardly inspiring stuff.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2023 7:16:20 GMT
www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stoke-city-manager-john-eustace-8971349John Eustace, the bookies’ early favourite to be new Stoke City manager, was among a cavalcade of former Potters watching a self-inflicted late goal plague. Stoke are not expected to rush into an appointment, even if they want to get the right person in as quickly as possible. Jon Dahl Tomasson, the Blackburn manager, continues to be well fancied by the bookies too and has a growing reputation in football circles for the job he has been doing against a challenging backdrop at Ewood Park. The Dean Holden thing is starting to worry me greatly. Why is he anywhere near the stadium?
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Post by FullerMagic on Dec 13, 2023 7:16:27 GMT
Really don’t get the issue with Eustace? Did a miracle to keep them up. Started really well this season. There’s nothing not to like really. He’s not some unknown foreign bloke that ideally I’d want but of the ones that are realistic he’s top 2 of the best of them. He’s meant to be a very good coach. He's young and hungry which is a big tick. Former player, which maybe would buy him slightly more time, but that's not an issue for me and shouldn't be a consideration because the fans aren't in the mood to give anyone any time now. He does deserve credit for Birmingham - but it was largely grim and attritional survivalball - not that he had much choice with the way their board had given up and washed their hands of it. But the only evidence we have of anything (marginally) better is the first few games this season, and talk of him creating something different at Kidderminster. Still seems a bit of a gamble, and a very limited CV to judge on when the major advocate for him being a great coach is the Kidderminster chairman. He seems a warm, likeable character and he captained teams so has clearly got something in that department, but he also didn't seem charismatic or a great thinker on the game in press conferences. But that seems a bit harsh when that's just guesswork. But it's always reassuring to see the man charged with the destiny of the club seem to have that x factor in the only window we're given of their thinking. Who knows which way they'll go? Lambert won them over with a few spreadsheets.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 13, 2023 7:17:00 GMT
Really don’t get the issue with Eustace? Did a miracle to keep them up. Started really well this season. There’s nothing not to like really. He’s not some unknown foreign bloke that ideally I’d want but of the ones that are realistic he’s top 2 of the best of them. He’s meant to be a very good coach. His win % is very similar to Neil’s whilst he was at Stoke. It’s hardly inspiring stuff. That provides fuck all context though. Brum were expected by everyone to go down last season and he kept them up easy. He did a great job for that alone. This win percentage argument is a load of bollocks.
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Post by FullerMagic on Dec 13, 2023 7:18:58 GMT
www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stoke-city-manager-john-eustace-8971349John Eustace, the bookies’ early favourite to be new Stoke City manager, was among a cavalcade of former Potters watching a self-inflicted late goal plague. Stoke are not expected to rush into an appointment, even if they want to get the right person in as quickly as possible. Jon Dahl Tomasson, the Blackburn manager, continues to be well fancied by the bookies too and has a growing reputation in football circles for the job he has been doing against a challenging backdrop at Ewood Park. The Dean Holden thing is starting to worry me greatly. Why is he anywhere near the stadium? I don't think they'd give him the top job - but the worry is they could see him as half of some odd dream team with someone like Eustace.
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Post by deeside2 on Dec 13, 2023 7:20:37 GMT
I've just checked on the Rovers Forum and their fans reckon it'd cost us about £750k in compensation to get JDT, and they reckon if we wanted him he'd jump at the opportunity. They're almost resigned to losing him.
One if their guys also reckons Heckingbottom is the other front runner.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2023 7:21:23 GMT
The Dean Holden thing is starting to worry me greatly. Why is he anywhere near the stadium? I don't think they'd give him the top job - but the worry is they could see him as half of some odd dream team with someone like Eustace. He should be nowhere near this club with his ridiculous death ball wing back system. He completely got into MONs head and turned him rogue, we don't want him poisoning some other poor sod with it.
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Post by FullerMagic on Dec 13, 2023 7:21:27 GMT
I've just checked on the Rovers Forum and their fans reckon it'd cost us about £750k in compensation to get JDT, and they reckon if we wanted him he'd jump at the opportunity. They're almost resigned to losing him. Love it!
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Post by deeside2 on Dec 13, 2023 7:27:05 GMT
Some of the Rovers fans however aren't that complimentary about JDT :
"Similar feeling, never really been won over since he came. The guy has some sensational PR team the way he is talked about and the links to jobs in the media.
It’s good to have an identity but we don’t have the budget or players for it. I’ve lost count of the goals we have kicked in our own net like last night from trying it. When we go behind we stay behind and rarely make any subs till it’s too late.
I only attend home games but it’s been turd since he came in at Ewood. There was probably 7-8k on last night which gives you an idea of how exciting it feels to come down at the moment."
Some of that sounds very familiar doesn't it. I guess we'll just have to wait and see who JC and Co. come up with.
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Post by Biblical on Dec 13, 2023 7:29:45 GMT
His win % is very similar to Neil’s whilst he was at Stoke. It’s hardly inspiring stuff. That provides fuck all context though. Brum were expected by everyone to go down last season and he kept them up easy. He did a great job for that alone. This win percentage argument is a load of bollocks. It’s would just be a gamble wouldn’t it. Yeah he did a good job keeping Birmingham in the division last season but our ambitions are far higher than that. He hasn’t demonstrated he’s got decent attacking football in his locker, I know that’s partly down to the circumstances.
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Post by lordb on Dec 13, 2023 7:30:22 GMT
Really don’t get the issue with Eustace? Did a miracle to keep them up. Started really well this season. There’s nothing not to like really. He’s not some unknown foreign bloke that ideally I’d want but of the ones that are realistic he’s top 2 of the best of them. He’s meant to be a very good coach. His win % is very similar to Neil’s whilst he was at Stoke. It’s hardly inspiring stuff. Context very different Alex Neill would not have kept Birmingham up nor would have got them off to a good start
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Post by lordb on Dec 13, 2023 7:31:13 GMT
www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stoke-city-manager-john-eustace-8971349John Eustace, the bookies’ early favourite to be new Stoke City manager, was among a cavalcade of former Potters watching a self-inflicted late goal plague. Stoke are not expected to rush into an appointment, even if they want to get the right person in as quickly as possible. Jon Dahl Tomasson, the Blackburn manager, continues to be well fancied by the bookies too and has a growing reputation in football circles for the job he has been doing against a challenging backdrop at Ewood Park. The Dean Holden thing is starting to worry me greatly. Why is he anywhere near the stadium? To watch the match, that's what football people do, they keep up with things
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Post by lordb on Dec 13, 2023 7:32:51 GMT
That provides fuck all context though. Brum were expected by everyone to go down last season and he kept them up easy. He did a great job for that alone. This win percentage argument is a load of bollocks. It’s would just be a gamble wouldn’t it. Yeah he did a good job keeping Birmingham in the division last season but our ambitions are far higher than that. He hasn’t demonstrated he’s got decent attacking football in his locker, I know that’s partly down to the circumstances. He did at Kidderminster
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2023 7:37:55 GMT
The Dean Holden thing is starting to worry me greatly. Why is he anywhere near the stadium? To watch the match, that's what football people do, they keep up with things You sound like you are trying to convince yourself there, lordy? 🤣
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Post by sportsman on Dec 13, 2023 7:48:54 GMT
If you were Eustace you'd have to do the same wouldn't you? You're touting for the job, what shall I do sit at home doing nothing or show willing and professionalism in at least turning up to watch in person.
If he was/is the man he'll be appointed in the next day or two else why hang around?
You'd question him if he ended up being manager and he didn't turn up last night.
Think this will roll into next week myself
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Post by idle on Dec 13, 2023 7:53:03 GMT
That provides fuck all context though. Brum were expected by everyone to go down last season and he kept them up easy. He did a great job for that alone. This win percentage argument is a load of bollocks. It’s would just be a gamble wouldn’t it. Yeah he did a good job keeping Birmingham in the division last season but our ambitions are far higher than that. He hasn’t demonstrated he’s got decent attacking football in his locker, I know that’s partly down to the circumstances. If he did he'd be in the running for far better jobs than us. I think this season with Brum shows promise, and I'd be happy to take him in, even if he's not my first choice.
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Post by george2again on Dec 13, 2023 8:03:30 GMT
Eustace will be a Lambert appointment. Not is what is needed at all.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Dec 13, 2023 8:08:59 GMT
Eustace will be a Lambert appointment. Not is what is needed at all. in what way?
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Post by vidigal7 on Dec 13, 2023 8:17:39 GMT
His win % is very similar to Neil’s whilst he was at Stoke. It’s hardly inspiring stuff. Context very different Alex Neill would not have kept Birmingham up nor would have got them off to a good start Would Eustace have been able to bring in 18 players on a shoe string though and have us challenging for play-offs without a pre-season? I can't see it, i cant see many people doing that. More of the same for me, I'd rather Charlie, Walters and Glenn if we're going down the rookie route. Not impressed at all with Eustace 'if' it is Eustace
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Post by baconburger on Dec 13, 2023 8:19:04 GMT
I'll take a dull appointment all day if it gets us points. If it's a choice between being entertained or getting points then points should be the only answer to any fan They're not mutually exclusive. Dull isn’t even more likely to get you more points I’d swear it’s only in Stoke where there are people who think it is.
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Post by harlequin on Dec 13, 2023 8:21:42 GMT
Just been searching for Eustace's exploits at kiddiminster Found this: When Eustace was manager of Kidderminster Harriers a rival manager described them as "the Barca of non league football"
Eustace or Tomasson would be fine in my opinion.
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Post by baconburger on Dec 13, 2023 8:24:12 GMT
This. I would genuinely go for Warnock for the rest of the season. Hopefully keeps us up and gives us time to assess who we want long term. I'd rather have Paul Gallagher if we're going down that route until the end of the season. Christ, when you think the suggestions couldn’t get anymore barking.
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Post by vidigal7 on Dec 13, 2023 8:24:18 GMT
Just been searching for Eustace's exploits at kiddiminster Found this: When Eustace was manager of Kidderminster Harriers a rival manager described them as "the Barca of non league football" It's hardly something to shout about, I'd look like Pele down there.
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Post by frasier37 on Dec 13, 2023 8:26:18 GMT
His win % is very similar to Neil’s whilst he was at Stoke. It’s hardly inspiring stuff. That provides fuck all context though. Brum were expected by everyone to go down last season and he kept them up easy. He did a great job for that alone. This win percentage argument is a load of bollocks. Surely it's too simplistic to say that was his doing tho. Possibly factors... Could it be that the media low expectations of them fired them up (similar to us after paddy power jibe with us) rather than the manager? not saying he's no good. If he was appointed i'd still support him, just... it's a bloody big gamble on someone still learning the game to try and fathom the shit show that is Stoke City at the moment
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Post by march4 on Dec 13, 2023 8:26:41 GMT
Really don’t get the issue with Eustace? Did a miracle to keep them up. Started really well this season. There’s nothing not to like really. He’s not some unknown foreign bloke that ideally I’d want but of the ones that are realistic he’s top 2 of the best of them. He’s meant to be a very good coach. Then let the new manager appoint him as a coach. We need a damned good leader not a coach.
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Post by march4 on Dec 13, 2023 8:28:51 GMT
His win % is very similar to Neil’s whilst he was at Stoke. It’s hardly inspiring stuff. That provides fuck all context though. Brum were expected by everyone to go down last season and he kept them up easy. He did a great job for that alone. This win percentage argument is a load of bollocks. We too were going down when AN took over. Eustace isn’t half the manager AN is and the job was too big for him. Appoint Eustace and he will last until Easter just like Kamara.
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Post by stokie23 on Dec 13, 2023 8:32:12 GMT
Really don’t get the issue with Eustace? Did a miracle to keep them up. Started really well this season. There’s nothing not to like really. He’s not some unknown foreign bloke that ideally I’d want but of the ones that are realistic he’s top 2 of the best of them. He’s meant to be a very good coach. His win % is very similar to Neil’s whilst he was at Stoke. It’s hardly inspiring stuff. It’s all relative ? His win percentage was 33.3% AT RELEGATION THREATENED BIRMINGHAM. His win percentage was 53.4% AT PROMOTION CHASING KIDDERMINSTER. Btw, have a look at Vincent Kompanys win % last season for Burnley vs this season for Burnley…but I assume you’d still take Kompany?
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Post by FullerMagic on Dec 13, 2023 8:32:16 GMT
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Post by robwahlmann on Dec 13, 2023 8:34:58 GMT
Maybe we should go on with Gallagher until Cooper gets the sack at Nottingham?
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Post by lordb on Dec 13, 2023 8:37:19 GMT
To watch the match, that's what football people do, they keep up with things You sound like you are trying to convince yourself there, lordy? 🤣 Not at all Eustace, Holden, Allardyce, Charlie Adam and God knows who else we're at the match confident they are not forming a management team
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