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Post by Bojan Mackey on Dec 13, 2023 8:37:38 GMT
I can get behind JDT.
With the exception of the defence our squad is better than Blackburns.
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Post by lordb on Dec 13, 2023 8:39:03 GMT
Really don’t get the issue with Eustace? Did a miracle to keep them up. Started really well this season. There’s nothing not to like really. He’s not some unknown foreign bloke that ideally I’d want but of the ones that are realistic he’s top 2 of the best of them. He’s meant to be a very good coach. Then let the new manager appoint him as a coach. We need a damned good leader not a coach. He demonstrated leadership by keeping an apparently doomed Blues comfortably up last season
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 13, 2023 8:39:32 GMT
That provides fuck all context though. Brum were expected by everyone to go down last season and he kept them up easy. He did a great job for that alone. This win percentage argument is a load of bollocks. We too were going down when AN took over. Eustace isn’t half the manager AN is and the job was too big for him. Appoint Eustace and he will last until Easter just like Kamara. Absolute hysterical shite.
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Post by DansViews on Dec 13, 2023 8:39:49 GMT
I’d be tempted to let Paul Gallagher see out the season.
I really like the way he came across yesterday, and the fact that he changed shape, bought in Junior shows that he has different ideas to AN.
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Post by FullerMagic on Dec 13, 2023 8:40:16 GMT
We too were going down when AN took over. Eustace isn’t half the manager AN is and the job was too big for him. Appoint Eustace and he will last until Easter just like Kamara. Absolute hysterical shite. If I had to guess, I would have predicted you'd be against Eustace and March would be for him. Funny old game!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2023 8:41:10 GMT
You sound like you are trying to convince yourself there, lordy? 🤣 Not at all Eustace, Holden, Allardyce, Charlie Adam and God knows who else we're at the match confident they are not forming a management team Allardyce was there? Interesting.
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Post by baconburger on Dec 13, 2023 8:41:32 GMT
I can get behind JDT. With the exception of the defence our squad is better than Blackburns. Is that some sort of wind up? They have 2 goal scorers we have none that we can get on the pitch for more than a game and a half. There’s nonsense and then there’s fucking idiotic nonsense.
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Post by LGH87 on Dec 13, 2023 8:41:38 GMT
I’d be tempted to let Paul Gallagher see out the season. I really like the way he came across yesterday, and the fact that he changed shape, bought in Junior shows that he has different ideas to AN. He started with 5 defenders, 3 of which are right backs, 4 cm's and 1 striker. Yes that's right, he started with 1 attacking player on the pitch, against a shit Swansea. No thanks.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Dec 13, 2023 8:42:51 GMT
I can get behind JDT. With the exception of the defence our squad is better than Blackburns. Is that some sort of wind up? They have 2 goal scorers we have none that we can get on the pitch for more than a game and a half. There’s nonsense and then there’s fucking idiotic nonsense. A semi-competent coach gets goals out of our midfield and attacking lineup. Wind your fucking neck in.
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Post by andystokey on Dec 13, 2023 8:43:37 GMT
Could it conceivably be Frank Lampard?
He has been trying to get back into football and was vying with Smith for the Charlotte job. He was also touted as possible Bristol replacement. I wouldn't have thought Charlotte were any more attractive than us and I saw this snippet today reflecting on the Dean Smith appointment.
"It is not clear if Lampard himself pulled out of the race to take over, or was overlooked."
He definitely needs a way back in. Two Stoke related moments I remember, giving Ollie Shenton his shirt and taking the dogs abuse at the Boothen with a smile, then goal!. I could see the JC appeal.
Would it be that bad? and could he pull some strings in January?
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Post by baconburger on Dec 13, 2023 8:43:45 GMT
I’d be tempted to let Paul Gallagher see out the season. I really like the way he came across yesterday, and the fact that he changed shape, bought in Junior shows that he has different ideas to AN. Changed the shape then shoehorned some quite bizarre personnel into the roles in it Junior being possibly the most bizarre of all.
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Post by mrcoke on Dec 13, 2023 8:44:09 GMT
Really don’t get the issue with Eustace? Did a miracle to keep them up. Started really well this season. There’s nothing not to like really. He’s not some unknown foreign bloke that ideally I’d want but of the ones that are realistic he’s top 2 of the best of them. He’s meant to be a very good coach. Then let the new manager appoint him as a coach. We need a damned good leader not a coach. I think we need both.
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Post by stokiejoe on Dec 13, 2023 8:45:43 GMT
His win % is very similar to Neil’s whilst he was at Stoke. It’s hardly inspiring stuff. That provides fuck all context though. Brum were expected by everyone to go down last season and he kept them up easy. He did a great job for that alone. This win percentage argument is a load of bollocks. He was replaced apparently because he and the board disagreed. They were in 6th place at the time and had scored 7 goals in winning their last two games. Rooney isn't doing much and the Brummyfans thought quite highly if Eustace. Check their forum and see the comments. Birmingham now 17th
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Post by DansViews on Dec 13, 2023 8:50:47 GMT
I’d be tempted to let Paul Gallagher see out the season. I really like the way he came across yesterday, and the fact that he changed shape, bought in Junior shows that he has different ideas to AN. Changed the shape then shoehorned some quite bizarre personnel into the roles in it Junior being possibly the most bizarre of all. But also junior offering more than anyone who has played that Position. He was one of the better players last night. I would have preferred someone up top with Mmae but I think it was an improvement. Considering it’s the first crack at it.
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Post by theporcelainpele on Dec 13, 2023 8:52:29 GMT
We needed someone to unite both the club and the fans. John fucking Eustace is the exact opposite and after a few more losses with him in charge (if) then the atmosphere will turn yet again but this time against the owner. Seen it all before. Time for ‘get behind them and give him a chance ‘ have long passed with many. Everything JC has touched since gaining control has turned to absolute shit and fans have had well enough. Get this wrong with an appointment in the mould of unproven, crap football, cheap British Eustace and just see what happens.
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Post by baconburger on Dec 13, 2023 8:55:56 GMT
Changed the shape then shoehorned some quite bizarre personnel into the roles in it Junior being possibly the most bizarre of all. But also junior offering more than anyone who has played that Position. He was one of the better players last night. I would have preferred someone up top with Mmae but I think it was an improvement. Considering it’s the first crack at it. It was a massively negative team selection. If that was the first crack get him out before he has anymore cracks FFS. We’re desperately short of goals and he picks that team at home.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2023 8:59:34 GMT
Then let the new manager appoint him as a coach. We need a damned good leader not a coach. He demonstrated leadership by keeping an apparently doomed Blues comfortably up last season He was a leader as a player so he definitely has that in his locker. Pulis speaks highly of him and one thing TP is good at is judging character.
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Post by wagsastokie on Dec 13, 2023 9:02:39 GMT
Just been searching for Eustace's exploits at kiddiminster Found this: When Eustace was manager of Kidderminster Harriers a rival manager described them as "the Barca of non league football" It's hardly something to shout about, I'd look like Pele down there. Flogging blue pills for a living
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Post by shakermaker on Dec 13, 2023 9:21:38 GMT
His win % is very similar to Neil’s whilst he was at Stoke. It’s hardly inspiring stuff. That provides fuck all context though. Brum were expected by everyone to go down last season and he kept them up easy. He did a great job for that alone. This win percentage argument is a load of bollocks. They had a talented pool of Auston Trusty, Tahith Chong, Maxime Colin, Bielik and Mejbri in their team (three of whom are getting games in the Premier League and one in the French top flight this season). How is that a team tipped for relegation?! For me you can argue that Eustace either did no better or worse than expected last season.
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Post by FullerMagic on Dec 13, 2023 9:24:53 GMT
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Post by emretezzy on Dec 13, 2023 9:25:16 GMT
I can get behind JDT. With the exception of the defence our squad is better than Blackburns. No way BM. Literally every player in Blackburns team would get tin ours. Wharton is an elite Premier league player in the champ. Dolan, Szmodicis, Sigurdsson, Moran would all walk into our team. My honest main reservation about JDT is that he has fell onto a quality squad at Blackburn and its flattering him slightly. Like I say, Wharton will end up at a Tottenham/Utd for 30/40 million.
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Post by FullerMagic on Dec 13, 2023 9:28:33 GMT
I can get behind JDT. With the exception of the defence our squad is better than Blackburns. No way BM. Literally every player in Blackburns team would get tin ours. Wharton is an elite Premier league player in the champ. Dolan, Szmodicis, Sigurdsson, Moran would all walk into our team. My honest main reservation about JDT is that he has fell onto a quality squad at Blackburn and its flattering him slightly. Like I say, Wharton will end up at a Tottenham/Utd for 30/40 million. Most of them have come in under his tenure to be fair. And they're having to play (I think) the second youngest team in the division. Their fans seem pissed off that the budget is continually being cut and the club is seen as a development project to polish up youngsters
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Dec 13, 2023 9:30:00 GMT
How is Potter still in the betting?
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Post by LGH87 on Dec 13, 2023 9:33:26 GMT
JDT 5s with BV & 4s with Hills. Dick Schreuder slowly coming down too but Hills and BV don't even have him priced.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2023 9:37:03 GMT
How would people feel about Scott Parker?
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Post by bigvern on Dec 13, 2023 9:38:19 GMT
Could it conceivably be Frank Lampard? He has been trying to get back into football and was vying with Smith for the Charlotte job. He was also touted as possible Bristol replacement. I wouldn't have thought Charlotte were any more attractive than us and I saw this snippet today reflecting on the Dean Smith appointment. "It is not clear if Lampard himself pulled out of the race to take over, or was overlooked." He definitely needs a way back in. Two Stoke related moments I remember, giving Ollie Shenton his shirt and taking the dogs abuse at the Boothen with a smile, then goal!. I could see the JC appeal. Would it be that bad? and could he pull some strings in January? Frank has probably got one job left until he's in the wilderness so he needs to pick his next job very carefully. Stoke will finish any ambitions of his of managing at the highest level.
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Post by callas12 on Dec 13, 2023 9:40:50 GMT
JDT 5s with BV & 4s with Hills. Dick Schreuder slowly coming down too but Hills and BV don't even have him priced. Big Sam creeping up in everyone's blind spot 😉🤣
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Post by stokeykez on Dec 13, 2023 9:43:44 GMT
How would people feel about Scott Parker? Depends, if he accepted the job, I would like him. Other than that he's arrogant and from the south
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Post by callas12 on Dec 13, 2023 9:44:38 GMT
How would people feel about Scott Parker? Pondered it but no, just don't get the impression he'd get Stoke. Be it nature of club or Stoke On Trent. I think our next manager needs to immerse himself into all things Potteries like TP most definitely did. Even likes of Klopp in Liverpool, he just gets Liverpool & immerses himself into their people & cultures.
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Post by Maccasbarmyarmy on Dec 13, 2023 9:45:44 GMT
Hecky or JDT what your opinion lads?
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