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Post by lordb on Dec 12, 2023 22:31:59 GMT
So was Sam Allerdyce and Dean Holden A match between two manager-less clubs and every useless manager without a job rocks up! 😂 Indeed They can't all be getting the job Suspect most people are jumping the gun here
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Dec 12, 2023 22:37:30 GMT
I don't hate the idea of Eustace at all, but it just has you thinking things will never change at boardroom level in what they look for.
Part of me thinks no one would be in their right mind to want the job, but another part of me thinks it's a fucking easy job to take on. We're looking for survival and this squad is better than a lot of sides in this division, including the last for we've failed to beat!
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Dec 12, 2023 22:37:58 GMT
Agree it’s a warnock , Allardyce , Pulis type appointment , to give us some identity ,( I actually think all three appointed would still struggle to get us to survive ) a big , bonus to stay up and recommend the squad overall framework. job one would be drop kick Martin and Jared over the boothen end . It isn't that type of appointment for me at all, but if they are going down the Eustace road you might aswell go for the same type of manager but with more charisma and experience. For me it's ripe for a foreign coach with different ideas to get the best out of our foreign forward line. A coach that is used to working with flair. After someone has kept us up for.me these players are so poor we need a survival expert in my view but rest are so bad there are no guarantees
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Post by robinplumpton on Dec 12, 2023 22:41:07 GMT
Let’s hope he is the press conference tomorrow
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Post by peterthornesboots on Dec 12, 2023 22:45:00 GMT
I don't hate the idea of Eustace at all, but it just has you thinking things will never change at boardroom level in what they look for. Part of me thinks no one would be in their right mind to want the job, but another part of me thinks it's a fucking easy job to take on. We're looking for survival and this squad is better than a lot of sides in this division, including the last for we've failed to beat! I am not sure that any of the names mentioned so far get me excited. Eustace feels like a gamble. He had a good start to this season, but having played only a handful of games. Last year they finished 17th (although in challenging conditions). I am not entirely convinced that we have seen enough of him yet to fully understand what type of manager he is. That worries me a little.
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Post by Biblical on Dec 12, 2023 22:56:17 GMT
Appointing Eustace would signal that the board haven’t got a clue and are officially out of ideas.
The only thing I’m clinging to is that I’ve thought the previous appointments were decent and so I can’t be disappointed because I think the Eustace appointment would be terrible so I can let go of any expectations.
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Post by FullerMagic on Dec 12, 2023 22:56:33 GMT
The odds haven't nudged all night, despite all the Eustace noise.
Doesn't feel like 'done deal'.
Maybe he's on the list and come to have a look, nothing more?
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Post by haway on Dec 12, 2023 23:01:54 GMT
We’ll agree to disagree - I think Still is a very ambitious and exciting appointment. If you’ll be happy with Eustace and Heckingbottham, then fair enough. Didn't take long for the arrogance to come steaming out did it? You lot are all the same. Arrogance? It’s me stating my personal preference would be Will Still, and if someone else would prefer an alternative such as Eustace or Heckingbottham, then that’s fair enough. There is no way that’s arrogant at all. Not once have I been arrogant on this board. I have always been respectful and have always given a fair judgement when we play each other, and I’ve never belittled Stoke at all. I think you’re a knowledgeable poster usually, so it’s disappointing to see that from you.
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Post by andystokey on Dec 12, 2023 23:26:26 GMT
It isn't that type of appointment for me at all, but if they are going down the Eustace road you might aswell go for the same type of manager but with more charisma and experience. For me it's ripe for a foreign coach with different ideas to get the best out of our foreign forward line. A coach that is used to working with flair. After someone has kept us up for.me these players are so poor we need a survival expert in my view but rest are so bad there are no guarantees There is nothing to work with for a dinosaur. The back four plus the goalkeeper is the worst in living memory. There is no captain and no spine. Going down that route just costs us another window. We need a coach first and foremost to get a tune out of some of these young players. January we need a captain at CB, a goalkeeper and someone to lead the line.
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Post by potter25 on Dec 12, 2023 23:30:36 GMT
Having watched tonight.. I have come to the conclusion we need a manager to sort this mess out and first and foremost make sure we stay in this division
I’m all for a forward thinking (possibly foreign) manager but at the moment I don’t see this as the way to go
If a new manager doesn’t get results quickly we could easily get cut adrift. With the late goals conceded we have the hallmarks of a relegation team
I fully expect QPR to beat Plymouth tomorrow which will put them level on points with us
We need 28 points minimum to stay up and I’d rather a Warnock/Big Sam now to keep us up this season and then look to recruit the exciting forward thinking manager most of us want
God forbid we go down - bigger clubs than us have (Leeds/Forest/Wednesday) have been in league 1 and took a few seasons get back out
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Post by scfcno1fan on Dec 12, 2023 23:31:56 GMT
Having watched tonight.. I have come to the conclusion we need a manager to sort this mess out and first and foremost make sure we stay in this division I’m all for a forward thinking (possibly foreign) manager but at the moment I don’t see this as the way to go If a new manager doesn’t get results quickly we could easily get cut adrift. With the late goals conceded we have the hallmarks of a relegation team I fully expect QPR to beat Plymouth tomorrow which will put them level on points with us We need 28 points minimum to stay up and I’d rather a Warnock/Big Sam now to keep us up this season and then look to recruit the exciting forward thinking manager most of us want God forbid we go down - bigger clubs than us have (Leeds/Forest/Wednesday) have been in league 1 and took a few seasons get back out This. I would genuinely go for Warnock for the rest of the season. Hopefully keeps us up and gives us time to assess who we want long term.
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Post by Veritas on Dec 12, 2023 23:35:47 GMT
Having watched tonight.. I have come to the conclusion we need a manager to sort this mess out and first and foremost make sure we stay in this division I’m all for a forward thinking (possibly foreign) manager but at the moment I don’t see this as the way to go If a new manager doesn’t get results quickly we could easily get cut adrift. With the late goals conceded we have the hallmarks of a relegation team I fully expect QPR to beat Plymouth tomorrow which will put them level on points with us We need 28 points minimum to stay up and I’d rather a Warnock/Big Sam now to keep us up this season and then look to recruit the exciting forward thinking manager most of us want God forbid we go down - bigger clubs than us have (Leeds/Forest/Wednesday) have been in league 1 and took a few seasons get back out This. I would genuinely go for Warnock for the rest of the season. Hopefully keeps us up and gives us time to assess who we want long term. You obviously want sectioning
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Post by Gary Hackett on Dec 12, 2023 23:36:51 GMT
Having watched tonight.. I have come to the conclusion we need a manager to sort this mess out and first and foremost make sure we stay in this division I’m all for a forward thinking (possibly foreign) manager but at the moment I don’t see this as the way to go If a new manager doesn’t get results quickly we could easily get cut adrift. With the late goals conceded we have the hallmarks of a relegation team I fully expect QPR to beat Plymouth tomorrow which will put them level on points with us We need 28 points minimum to stay up and I’d rather a Warnock/Big Sam now to keep us up this season and then look to recruit the exciting forward thinking manager most of us want God forbid we go down - bigger clubs than us have (Leeds/Forest/Wednesday) have been in league 1 and took a few seasons get back out This. I would genuinely go for Warnock for the rest of the season. Hopefully keeps us up and gives us time to assess who we want long term. I'd rather have Paul Gallagher if we're going down that route until the end of the season.
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Post by FullerMagic on Dec 12, 2023 23:37:21 GMT
It's only December.
Don't think we can write off a season by slumping into survivalball for half a season with a firefighter.
That would be grim.
If we can't finish ahead of Rotherham and 2 others with this lot and whatever we can acquire in January, God help us
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Post by scfcno1fan on Dec 12, 2023 23:39:28 GMT
It's only December. Don't think we can write off a season by slumping into survivalball for half a season with a firefighter. That would be grim. If we can't finish ahead of Rotherham and 2 others with this lot and whatever we can acquire in January, God help us You have more confidence than me mate. Are you not worried about the threat of relegation?
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Post by likelyladgalizmo on Dec 12, 2023 23:40:45 GMT
It's only December. Don't think we can write off a season by slumping into survivalball for half a season with a firefighter. That would be grim. If we can't finish ahead of Rotherham and 2 others with this lot and whatever we can acquire in January, God help us Our run in over Xmas looks bleak. We need to think fast. Pick up points quick. Before we get sucked in the drop zone.
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Post by FullerMagic on Dec 12, 2023 23:55:17 GMT
It's only December. Don't think we can write off a season by slumping into survivalball for half a season with a firefighter. That would be grim. If we can't finish ahead of Rotherham and 2 others with this lot and whatever we can acquire in January, God help us You have more confidence than me mate. Are you not worried about the threat of relegation? Not massively. It's there hovering in the background. But it's a very poor league as we saw tonight and Saturday. There's a big glut of about 15 teams who can't put a run of form together and can all see the black clouds gathering after a tough week or two. Obviously we're not going to threaten the top half, but I still think we'll be ok I just can't face us crawling up our arses for half a season when there's garbage like Wednesday, QPR, Swansea, Huddersfield, Millwall, Birmingham etc all in the same boat and without our resources to change it up in January. Life is too short. There's still time for a fresh momentum from a new positive manager backed with 2 or 3 new faces.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Dec 12, 2023 23:56:59 GMT
Eustace will probably remain plan B if they don't get their plan A I'd imagine.
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Post by Olgrligm on Dec 13, 2023 0:00:46 GMT
A name I've not seen on here but heard mentioned a lot at the ground tonight was Lampard. I struggle to see that being accurate for quite a few reasons.
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Post by andystokey on Dec 13, 2023 0:15:45 GMT
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Post by Pedropotter on Dec 13, 2023 5:52:28 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 13, 2023 6:11:19 GMT
Really don’t get the issue with Eustace?
Did a miracle to keep them up.
Started really well this season.
There’s nothing not to like really.
He’s not some unknown foreign bloke that ideally I’d want but of the ones that are realistic he’s top 2 of the best of them.
He’s meant to be a very good coach.
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Post by Goonie on Dec 13, 2023 6:27:44 GMT
Appointing Eustace would signal that the board haven’t got a clue and are officially out of ideas. The only thing I’m clinging to is that I’ve thought the previous appointments were decent and so I can’t be disappointed because I think the Eustace appointment would be terrible so I can let go of any expectations. I also thought every post-Lambert appointment was the right man so I've drifted into accepting I know fuck all and put my faith in JC (gulp!)
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Post by Goonie on Dec 13, 2023 6:29:19 GMT
Eustace will probably remain plan B if they don't get their plan A I'd imagine. Ah! The Lambert Strategy as it is officially known 😬😄
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Post by caine on Dec 13, 2023 6:46:10 GMT
Can someone sum up please as in between I saw Keane and Potter hiding at CW is there actually been any progress
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Post by gingerninja on Dec 13, 2023 6:49:21 GMT
Has all the markings of,we chase Ian Rush and Paul bracewell as player managers and end up with Chic Bates 😉
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Post by cobhamstokey on Dec 13, 2023 7:01:02 GMT
Really don’t get the issue with Eustace? Did a miracle to keep them up. Started really well this season. There’s nothing not to like really. He’s not some unknown foreign bloke that ideally I’d want but of the ones that are realistic he’s top 2 of the best of them. He’s meant to be a very good coach. Well said. I don’t understand the negativity around him. We’ll only know how good he is if and once he’s started the job. There’s plenty of people I’m sure that we’d like could arrive and be a total disaster and plenty that we’d turn up who we wouldn’t want who’d be brilliant. The reality is we won’t get an elite coach to come here so I’d rather we had someone relatively new that has something to prove that could surprise people. As you say he’s really well thought of as a coach and doesn’t come across as arrogant or the big I am so that’s a good start.
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Post by kidcrewbob on Dec 13, 2023 7:03:54 GMT
It's only December. Don't think we can write off a season by slumping into survivalball for half a season with a firefighter. That would be grim. If we can't finish ahead of Rotherham and 2 others with this lot and whatever we can acquire in January, God help us Spot on - it’s far too early for a dinasour panic…
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Post by wilcopotter on Dec 13, 2023 7:04:02 GMT
Between where we are at n the table, the standard of the squad and prospective quality managers that would want to come here, I think the successful candidate will either be a Warnock journeyman type or a Eustace type gamble. No way anyone like Potter or that calibre is coming to Stoke imo.
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Post by FullerMagic on Dec 13, 2023 7:05:40 GMT
www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stoke-city-manager-john-eustace-8971349John Eustace, the bookies’ early favourite to be new Stoke City manager, was among a cavalcade of former Potters watching a self-inflicted late goal plague. Stoke are not expected to rush into an appointment, even if they want to get the right person in as quickly as possible. Jon Dahl Tomasson, the Blackburn manager, continues to be well fancied by the bookies too and has a growing reputation in football circles for the job he has been doing against a challenging backdrop at Ewood Park.
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