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Post by peterthornesboots on Dec 2, 2023 18:09:25 GMT
We are a bottom half Championship club that for the last five seasons has been far closer to relegation than promotion. The realistic list of candidates will be the likes of Chris Wilder, Dean Smith, and John Eustace. We need to accept that we are where we are as a club - Potter, Bielsa, Cooper, and some of the other names recently banded about on this board are just pie in the sky. Not sure Cooper is, think his next job is on our League I think most Premier League managers will probably see out the season. Luton, Sheffield United, and Burnley are so poor that there is far less pressure on bottom half clubs. Throw Everton's point deduction into the mix and you would have to be REALLY poor to get relegated from the Premier League this season. 😅 I agree that Cooper's next job will likely be in The Championship, but I doubt it will be with a Stoke team that is more likely to end up in League One than the Premier League anytime soon.
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Post by Marc01 on Dec 2, 2023 18:10:15 GMT
He has something in common with (and exclusive to) our most successful managers since the 90’s: Lou Macari Tony Pulis Mark Hughes And, to a lesser extent: Gudjon Thordarson
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Dec 2, 2023 18:10:20 GMT
The England women's manager would do better job than AN.
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Post by cheadlepotter on Dec 2, 2023 18:10:24 GMT
Neil's mate is in charge isn't he? So unlikely he's going anywhere, and if Coates Jnr finishes picking his nose and overrules Martin then can you imagine the atmosphere at the club.
We're in December and again another 14-16th finish seems appealing.
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Post by PotterLog on Dec 2, 2023 18:11:31 GMT
We are a bottom half Championship club that for the last five seasons has been far closer to relegation than promotion. The realistic list of candidates will be the likes of Chris Wilder, Dean Smith, and John Eustace. We need to accept that we are where we are as a club - Potter, Bielsa, Cooper, and some of the other names recently banded about on this board are just pie in the sky. Bielsa has Uruguay sitting 2nd in World Cup qualifying and his last two results are wins against Argentina and Brazil 😅 so I’m fairly sure he won’t be tempted by a move to the Potteries right now
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Post by peterthornesboots on Dec 2, 2023 18:13:15 GMT
We are a bottom half Championship club that for the last five seasons has been far closer to relegation than promotion. The realistic list of candidates will be the likes of Chris Wilder, Dean Smith, and John Eustace. We need to accept that we are where we are as a club - Potter, Bielsa, Cooper, and some of the other names recently banded about on this board are just pie in the sky. Bielsa has Uruguay sitting 2nd in World Cup qualifying and his last two results are wins against Argentina and Brazil 😅 so I’m fairly sure he won’t be tempted by a move to the Potteries right now It did make me laugh when his name popped up a couple of weeks ago! 😅
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Post by worcsstokie15 on Dec 2, 2023 18:13:24 GMT
Neil's mate is in charge isn't he? So unlikely he's going anywhere, and if Coates Jnr finishes picking his nose and overrules Martin then can you imagine the atmosphere at the club. We're in December and again another 14-16th finish seems appealing. Is it actually his mate? Or just two ex-colleagues who respect each others work? His assistant manager is definitely his mate.
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Post by danceswithclams on Dec 2, 2023 18:14:12 GMT
Graham Potter…in my dreams but let’s dream! John Eustace possibly… Get TP in till the end of the season with Ryan Shawcross & Glen Whelan assisting with a view to take over next season… Know the club.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Dec 2, 2023 18:14:23 GMT
Pep Ljinders
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Post by FullerMagic on Dec 2, 2023 18:16:05 GMT
Neil's mate is in charge isn't he? So unlikely he's going anywhere, and if Coates Jnr finishes picking his nose and overrules Martin then can you imagine the atmosphere at the club. We're in December and again another 14-16th finish seems appealing. I don't think it's ever been claimed Martin is the ultimate decision maker in terms of first team manager as such though, has it? At some clubs that really buy into this system it is, like Norwich I think It'll come down to what John wants.
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Post by scfcwebby on Dec 2, 2023 18:17:26 GMT
His football is meant to be awful to watch isn't it?
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Post by victoria on Dec 2, 2023 18:17:26 GMT
We used to be the mighty Potters. Now we are the trotters. Maybe the Bolton manager.
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Post by Scrotnig on Dec 2, 2023 18:18:42 GMT
It’s time for Tone.
(Sorry!)
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Post by kidcrewbob on Dec 2, 2023 18:19:01 GMT
We need a first team coach not a manager
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Post by peterthornesboots on Dec 2, 2023 18:19:15 GMT
Neil's mate is in charge isn't he? So unlikely he's going anywhere, and if Coates Jnr finishes picking his nose and overrules Martin then can you imagine the atmosphere at the club. We're in December and again another 14-16th finish seems appealing. Is it actually his mate? Or just two ex-colleagues who respect each others work? His assistant manager is definitely his mate. At the start of the season, during the meet the manager/chairman night, JC stressed that RM was a club appointment and not one made by the manager. We might just see how true that statement is in the next few days and weeks.
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Post by ChesterStokie on Dec 2, 2023 18:19:36 GMT
Neil's mate is in charge isn't he? So unlikely he's going anywhere, and if Coates Jnr finishes picking his nose and overrules Martin then can you imagine the atmosphere at the club. We're in December and again another 14-16th finish seems appealing. I don't think it's ever been claimed Martin is the ultimate decision maker in terms of first team manager as such though, has it? At some clubs that really buy into this system it is, like Norwich I think It'll come down to what John wants. John doesn’t know what he wants.
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Post by Gob Bluth on Dec 2, 2023 18:20:50 GMT
John Eustace with John Halls as assistant.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Dec 2, 2023 18:21:59 GMT
His football is meant to be awful to watch isn't it? Not sure but we need results and he was doing a decent job, at least he wouldn't be same old and would cost us millions to get in.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Dec 2, 2023 18:22:18 GMT
It doesn't matter who we'd choose. The owners have pretty much confirmed now beyond any doubt that the next man in will be from a similar, if not identical pool to this: Bruce Wilder Warnock Eustace Dean Smith Bowyer Pearson Alex McCleish With the lavish, exotic option being: Scott Parker Michael Beale Frank Lampard Enjoy your Saturday night steak and chips everyone... From that list Bruce - NO Wilder - I’D TAKE HIM JUST BECAUSE HES NOT AN BUT JUST TILL SEASON END Warnock - YES TILL THE END OF THE SEASON Eustace - YES Dean Smith - 50/50 Bowyer - NO Pearson - NO Alex McCleish - NO Scott Parker - YES Michael Beale - YES Frank Lampard - NO Eustace would be first choice for me. As an outsider John Terry could be a shout.
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Post by LGH87 on Dec 2, 2023 18:23:00 GMT
I honestly want someone I’ve never heard of.
They may end up crap but at least we won’t know they’re going to be crap when they’re appointed.
I defo don’t want another name off the conveyor belt like Dean Smith or Chris Wilder
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Post by sportsman on Dec 2, 2023 18:23:40 GMT
If and whenever it may be it won't be some foreign name unless he speaks really good English. It's got be someone John and Peter can go out for a meal with every week.
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Post by sportsman on Dec 2, 2023 18:25:01 GMT
It doesn't matter who we'd choose. The owners have pretty much confirmed now beyond any doubt that the next man in will be from a similar, if not identical pool to this: Bruce Wilder Warnock Eustace Dean Smith Bowyer Pearson Alex McCleish With the lavish, exotic option being: Scott Parker Michael Beale Frank Lampard Enjoy your Saturday night steak and chips everyone... From that list Bruce - NO Wilder - I’D TAKE HIM JUST BECAUSE HES NOT AN BUT JUST TILL SEASON END Warnock - YES TILL THE END OF THE SEASON Eustace - YES Dean Smith - 50/50 Bowyer - NO Pearson - NO Alex McCleish - NO Scott Parker - YES Michael Beale - YES Frank Lampard - NO Eustace would be first choice for me That list tells me why he won't be going anywhere yet
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Post by Pugsley on Dec 2, 2023 18:26:29 GMT
Will Still
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Post by thedeadlyshart on Dec 2, 2023 18:26:29 GMT
As much as I like Graham Potter I doubt he is going to choose a team in the basement of the bottom half of the Championship as his next club.
We need someone who is not like our previous championship managers who are stubborn egotistical and rigid in their tactics. We have good players that need a coach that can emphasis the strengths of the young players we already have, and build them up rather than throw them under the bus or play their favorite players from previous clubs they managed.
I think this is the way with our current crop who have yet to act like a team. A manger who can adapt their way of doing things to get the most out of current personnel rather than sticking to their formations and tactics that have worked at other clubs. Players like Junho and Tchamadeu need a manager who will get to know them and have their back even when they make a mistake, the talent is there and we need someone who will develop them and build confidence.
Basically Ted Lasso.
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Post by Goonie on Dec 2, 2023 18:26:52 GMT
It’s time for Tone. (Sorry!) I'd be happy until May, even binary football is better than this
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Post by FullerMagic on Dec 2, 2023 18:27:39 GMT
It doesn't matter who we'd choose. The owners have pretty much confirmed now beyond any doubt that the next man in will be from a similar, if not identical pool to this: Bruce Wilder Warnock Eustace Dean Smith Bowyer Pearson Alex McCleish With the lavish, exotic option being: Scott Parker Michael Beale Frank Lampard Enjoy your Saturday night steak and chips everyone... Michael Beale is an interesting one I'd forgot about. Was raved about at Villa and QPR, with just the Rangers failure on his CV. He'll be Champ-bound in his next job, you'd think. Hmmm
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Post by stokest5 on Dec 2, 2023 18:27:50 GMT
I’m not getting all the calls for Eustace. Other then having a popular time here has a player I can’t see his credentials to draft him in for the managers job.
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Post by stokiemarc on Dec 2, 2023 18:28:22 GMT
What style of football does Eustace play? I thought the Brummies weren't a fan?
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Post by FullerMagic on Dec 2, 2023 18:30:12 GMT
What style of football does Eustace play? I thought the Brummies weren't a fan? Quite 'pragmatic' I think - certainly at Brum, although that seemed to be changing a bit as he got better players in and they were less of a shitshow. And he had a reputation for playing very different stuff when he was at Kidderminster and as Warburton's No.2 at QPR.
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Post by wagsastokie on Dec 2, 2023 18:30:14 GMT
Mad mick At least the press conference’s would be less turgid
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