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Post by gawa on Dec 2, 2023 17:54:14 GMT
Michael O'Neill - you know it makes sense! We're trying to get better not worse 😂 Exactly!! Last 26 under O’Neill W9 D6 L11 First 26 under Neil W8 D6 L12 How’s he’s come in and been worse than O’Neill is just.. MON was still worse, he had plenty of time to put a squad together that he wanted and he fucked it, give AN the same time and I think he'd do a lot better. How much more time for things to get better 😉
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Post by questionable on Dec 2, 2023 17:55:31 GMT
It doesn't matter who we'd choose. The owners have pretty much confirmed now beyond any doubt that the next man in will be from a similar, if not identical pool to this: Bruce Wilder Warnock Eustace Dean Smith Bowyer Pearson Alex McCleish With the lavish, exotic option being: Scott Parker Michael Beale Frank Lampard Enjoy your Saturday night steak and chips everyone... I was going to pop down the pub for a few pints but thanks to AN yet another weekend wrecked by him and I CBA going out now, Just F Off Neil
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Post by lordb on Dec 2, 2023 17:55:48 GMT
Eustace for various reasons not tainted by any record of failure
I won't be upset if it's Wilder unlike many
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Post by peterthornesboots on Dec 2, 2023 17:55:52 GMT
Pointless even discussing it, he ain’t going nowhere. Prior to the international break I was thinking the same. However, if we lose to Sheffield Wednesday then alarm bells will really start ringing in HQ. He needs a early goal to settle the crowd next weekend and then rack up a back to back wins to give him some breathing space. If not, then he is going to be under enormous pressure.
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Post by tommycarlsberg on Dec 2, 2023 17:56:26 GMT
If I’ve heard of him then he’s the wrong choice 👍🏻
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Post by chigstoke on Dec 2, 2023 17:56:37 GMT
Come on March. I know you've had his back for a bit now, but you can't defend him recently. The football and his tactical decisions have been nothing short of appalling. If we don't twist now, we risk AN absolutely derailing us even more. The bloke has completely lost it. It's always a risk appointing a new man, especially under John, but we have to for any vague chance of bringing a bit of promise back to this season, of the little available.
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Post by theonlooker on Dec 2, 2023 17:57:26 GMT
Time to come off the AN shaped horse Marchy. He's done mate.
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Dec 2, 2023 17:57:52 GMT
Michael O'Neill - you know it makes sense! You would bloody love that mate wouldn't you 😉 In fact I bet you are at your shrine of MON now praying aren't you mate 😜
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Post by hamsta2 on Dec 2, 2023 17:59:45 GMT
It doesn't matter who we'd choose. The owners have pretty much confirmed now beyond any doubt that the next man in will be from a similar, if not identical pool to this: Bruce Wilder Warnock Eustace Dean Smith Bowyer Pearson Alex McCleish Had to laugh. Wearing wrong specs and thought you’d put ‘Michael Buble’ 😂😂😂 He may get a tune out of the players though. I’ll get me coat and try to find correct specs. With the lavish, exotic option being: Scott Parker Michael Beale Frank Lampard Enjoy your Saturday night steak and chips everyone...
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Dec 2, 2023 17:59:59 GMT
It’s not just about the manager . The three have to go and with them all Neil’s coaching staff , by definition Martin has created a culture of failure so he’s the first , Jared a squad unbelievably unsuited to this league and Neil because his results just say you’ve failed ,
This season is all about survival so a temporary appointment might give us some breathing space to think about structure and replacement , presumably the usual culprits would be happy to take it in that basis
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Post by canadastk on Dec 2, 2023 18:00:29 GMT
May as well, can’t possibly see things turning around from here. So who would you have, realistically? Steve Cooper is said to be under pressure at Forest - don’t think he’d get a Prem job is he gets the chop so may have an outside chance of getting him. Also want to add that we have people at the club who are meant to identify managers, so I’m sure there are plenty of good managers out there who I haven’t heard of and the people running our club probably haven’t either. That's wishful thinking that the club has people employed to identify potential managers. Have you seen the last 5 we've employed? Carlos Corberan was fully available for us to hire but JC is blind to anyone but a UK candidate. It's the death of us really. One fool is making us all miserable and it's John Coates.
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Post by theonlooker on Dec 2, 2023 18:00:45 GMT
It doesn't matter who we'd choose. The owners have pretty much confirmed now beyond any doubt that the next man in will be from a similar, if not identical pool to this: Bruce Wilder Warnock Eustace Dean Smith Bowyer Pearson Alex McCleish Had to laugh. Wearing wrong specs and thought you’d put ‘Michael Buble’ 😂😂😂 He may get a tune out of the players though. I’ll get me coat and try to find correct specs. With the lavish, exotic option being: Scott Parker Michael Beale Frank Lampard Enjoy your Saturday night steak and chips everyone... I'd settle for Micky Bubble right now...
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Post by boskampsflaps on Dec 2, 2023 18:01:03 GMT
We're trying to get better not worse 😂 Exactly!! MON was still worse, he had plenty of time to put a squad together that he wanted and he fucked it, give AN the same time and I think he'd do a lot better. How much more time for things to get better 😉 Infinitely better than if MON was still here, we'd be in league one for a start 😂
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Post by liathroid on Dec 2, 2023 18:01:34 GMT
MON comfortably the better manager here. It's so far apart it's laughable. Speaking of which, add Stephen Kenny to the list... Kenny is good manager , but terrible doing interviews , cant talk very well gets flustered
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Post by Marc01 on Dec 2, 2023 18:03:17 GMT
He has something in common with (and exclusive to) our most successful managers since the 90’s: Lou Macari Tony Pulis Mark Hughes
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Post by peterthornesboots on Dec 2, 2023 18:03:20 GMT
Eustace for various reasons not tainted by any record of failure I won't be upset if it's Wilder unlike many I am a little unsure why Wilder is so frowned upon. Did fantastic at Sheffield United. His initial spell at Middlesbrough was great, but in his first full season it fell apart. Then Watford is just a basket base of a club. He would not be at the top of my list, but there are far, far worse choices out there.
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Post by canadastk on Dec 2, 2023 18:03:57 GMT
Squad wise we’re not far off a good side. Keeper, left back, centre back and then the rest is up to the manager and how they use the players. I think there’d be a lot of interest in the vacancy to be honest. I agree. It's the manager that is out of his depth. CB and return of Wilmot along with a manager that can manage to the strengths of our group is what we need.
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Post by theporcelainpele on Dec 2, 2023 18:04:12 GMT
It’ll be Smith, Wilder or Eustace. I doubt it will be any though because mumbling John is so shit scared of making a proactive decision.
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Post by Boothen on Dec 2, 2023 18:04:24 GMT
Fuck it, Glen Hoddle.
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Post by theporcelainpele on Dec 2, 2023 18:05:07 GMT
He has something in common with our most successful managers since the 90’s: Lou Macari Tony Pulis Mark Hughes They all have a U in their name?
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Post by anchorman on Dec 2, 2023 18:05:19 GMT
Graham Potter…in my dreams but let’s dream! John Eustace possibly…
We have a complete lack of identity, we’re as soft as shit, we had really good/easy chances to make it 2/3-0 and fluffed our lines but there is no structure, no discipline, lack of awareness, poor decision making, general slackness and a distinct lack of desire…..Get TP in till the end of the season with Ryan Shawcross & Glen Whelan assisting with a view to take over next season…
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Post by boskampsflaps on Dec 2, 2023 18:06:25 GMT
Squad wise we’re not far off a good side. Keeper, left back, centre back and then the rest is up to the manager and how they use the players. I think there’d be a lot of interest in the vacancy to be honest. I agree. It's the manager that is out of his depth. CB and return of Wilmot along with a manager that can manage to the strengths of our group is what we need. You were doing so well until you mentioned Wilmot, he's been part of the problem.
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Post by Marc01 on Dec 2, 2023 18:06:37 GMT
He has something in common with our most successful managers since the 90’s: Lou Macari Tony Pulis Mark Hughes They all have a U in their name? Indeed! It seems the only route to success for Stoke managers in modern times 🙂
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Post by Paul Spencer on Dec 2, 2023 18:06:48 GMT
May as well, can’t possibly see things turning around from here. So who would you have, realistically? Steve Cooper is said to be under pressure at Forest - don’t think he’d get a Prem job is he gets the chop so may have an outside chance of getting him. Also want to add that we have people at the club who are meant to identify managers, so I’m sure there are plenty of good managers out there who I haven’t heard of and the people running our club probably haven’t either. If Cooper's going anywhere, it's very likely to be to Palace.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Dec 2, 2023 18:06:54 GMT
It’ll be Smith, Wilder or Eustace. I doubt it will be any though because mumbling John is so shit scared of making a proactive decision. Results as I’ve said so often will make it gor him question us who makes the decision to replace him as Martin has to go too ahd jared with him both either toxix or incompetent or both
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Dec 2, 2023 18:06:55 GMT
Coates Jr.is scouting the Isle of Wight,he thinks that's foriegn.
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Post by worcsstokie15 on Dec 2, 2023 18:07:02 GMT
People need to be realistic. We’re a bottom half championship club. If you say the name Potter, please check yourself into a mental asylum.
If we can’t pluck a good one from the continent then I’d go Dean Smith. Don’t really see the attraction to Eustace just as an ex-player.
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Post by gawa on Dec 2, 2023 18:07:39 GMT
What about Liam Rosenoir? Could he be tempted away from Hull? Done a decent job on a modest budget
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Dec 2, 2023 18:08:09 GMT
Just took a job I think, Liege was it? ... wouldn't say no to him...or Vanessa
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Dec 2, 2023 18:09:18 GMT
Muslic...someone is going to snap him up soon
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