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Post by stokieben28 on Dec 18, 2023 16:30:15 GMT
Is this board slowing down? It's getting as slow as it used to be at 11.59 on a Pizza boys deadline. It's up to you mate to keep us informed..as always!
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Post by FullerMagic on Dec 18, 2023 16:30:37 GMT
So Athletic and Mirror both claim it's Tricky leading the process, which is a surprise. Why is it it’s what he’s employed to do. Who would you expect to be leading the process JC, he’ll be the man who has the final say I doubt very much he did the donkey work even when we didn’t have a DoF, technical/sporting director. He has never shown any inclination to delegate THE biggest decision he gets to make, even if it's with help of mates in the pub. This marks an encouraging shift and shows that he isn't just a technical director in name only, but has some teeth.
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Dec 18, 2023 16:31:20 GMT
So Athletic and Mirror both claim it's Tricky leading the process, which is a surprise. Quite ironic that Alex Neil brought Tricky to the club as he knew him & felt he'd help to improve things, Tricky then goes & improves things by fucking Neil off & replacing him with Schumacher!
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Post by scfcno1fan on Dec 18, 2023 16:31:22 GMT
A lot of people would say the same about the Stoke accent. To non Staffordshire folk the Stokie accents a very tame version of Scouse accent anyway. Only a county away I suppose so not going to be a million miles apart! I’m glad you said that and not me. I moved away from Stoke when I was 3, so I have no hint of a Stoke accent. When anyone asks me what it’s like, I tend to say scouse.
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Post by pavel on Dec 18, 2023 16:35:09 GMT
Let's hope it's Schumacher and not Eustace, go on, make my day Stoke or perhaps tomorrow's.
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Post by baconburger on Dec 18, 2023 16:35:24 GMT
Why is it it’s what he’s employed to do. Who would you expect to be leading the process JC, he’ll be the man who has the final say I doubt very much he did the donkey work even when we didn’t have a DoF, technical/sporting director. He has never shown any inclination to delegate THE biggest decision he gets to make, even if it's with help of mates in the pub. This marks an encouraging shift and shows that he isn't just a technical director in name only, but has some teeth. I think maybe you’ve got a different definition of leading the process to me. To lead the process would to my mind be the person setting everything up and doing the negotiations with clubs agents etc I doubt whether JC has ever been involved in any of that. He’s just the man with the final say at the end of the process.
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Post by wuzza on Dec 18, 2023 16:35:57 GMT
A lot of people would say the same about the Stoke accent. To non Staffordshire folk the Stokie accents a very tame version of Scouse accent anyway. Only a county away I suppose so not going to be a million miles apart! Ive heard this said before and it has always baffled me - I’ve lived in the N.West nearly all my life and spent a good chunk of that time working in Merseyside and to me the 2 accents are not remotely similar. (the posh Wirral scouse is manageable but the Jamie Carragher brand sets my teeth on edge)
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Dec 18, 2023 16:36:04 GMT
Everyone has their own preferences but ultimately, whoever it is will get the full backing of the supporters once they're announced. Hopefully it'll be announced tomorrow and he can get a few days with the squad before two winnable games over Christmas, where you'd be hopeful of a 'new manager bounce'.
I think all the fan base wants is someone who'll have the team organised and will try to win games rather than shitting bricks against absolute horse meat opposition.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Dec 18, 2023 16:36:42 GMT
Not sure about Tricky Ricky been given this power,he reminds me of a 2nd hand car dealer, Arthur Daley springs to mind.
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Post by gingerninja on Dec 18, 2023 16:37:36 GMT
I still don't think it's as clear cut as some are making out, wouldn't surprise me still if Eustace was announced, although of the 2, definitely prefer Schumacher..m
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Post by baconburger on Dec 18, 2023 16:39:03 GMT
So Athletic and Mirror both claim it's Tricky leading the process, which is a surprise. Quite ironic that Alex Neil brought Tricky to the club as he knew him & felt he'd help to improve things, Tricky then goes & improves things by fucking Neil off & replacing him with Schumacher! It would be very interesting to know whether he had any involvement or prior knowledge of AN’s dismissal. AN did seem like he knew he was toast in that final interview even though he tried to pretend there’s be another day.
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Post by FullerMagic on Dec 18, 2023 16:40:08 GMT
I still don't think it's as clear cut as some are making out, wouldn't surprise me still if Eustace was announced, although of the 2, definitely prefer Schumacher..m Alan Nixon @reluctantnicko Eustace still in there … hearing Hecky might not be in a rush to return immediately … or maybe he doesn’t fancy it enough Sounds like they're the final 2, based on Nixon, Athletic and others- but Neil Moxley from the Mirror seemed confident to make the call they'd gone for Schuey. And Moxley is very close to Eustace from Birmingham, so you'd think he'd know
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Post by danceswithclams on Dec 18, 2023 16:40:32 GMT
To non Staffordshire folk the Stokie accents a very tame version of Scouse accent anyway. Only a county away I suppose so not going to be a million miles apart! Yep when I moved to Manchester to study at the Poly in the early 80's the locals mistook my accent for scouse. I work in Manchester currently (and previously lived there for a few years about 20 years ago) and all the natives think I'm from Merseyside. The funny thing is though, I don't have a particularly strong Stoke accent and the firm I work for employs quite a few genuine Scousers (a lot of whom speak in an indecipherable spittle-flecked Carragher/Ricky Tomlinson stylee). Shirley they don't think I sound like those fuckin' meffs?
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Dec 18, 2023 16:42:01 GMT
I still don't think it's as clear cut as some are making out, wouldn't surprise me still if Eustace was announced, although of the 2, definitely prefer Schumacher..m Alan Nixon @reluctantnicko Eustace still in there … hearing Hecky might not be in a rush to return immediately … or maybe he doesn’t fancy it enough Sounds like they're the final 2, based on Nixon, Athletic and others- but Neil Moxley from the Mirror seemed confident to make the call they'd gone for Schuey. And Moxley is very close to Eustace from Birmingham, so you'd think he'd know Always great to have all bases covered by Alan Nixon.
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Post by retrostoke on Dec 18, 2023 16:42:43 GMT
Quite ironic that Alex Neil brought Tricky to the club as he knew him & felt he'd help to improve things, Tricky then goes & improves things by fucking Neil off & replacing him with Schumacher! It would be very interesting to know whether he had any involvement or prior knowledge of AN’s dismissal. AN did seem like he knew he was toast in that final interview even though he tried to pretend there’s be another day. Who says Tricky brought Neil to the club. Stoke were chasing Neil well before Tricky arrived
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Post by FullerMagic on Dec 18, 2023 16:42:53 GMT
He has never shown any inclination to delegate THE biggest decision he gets to make, even if it's with help of mates in the pub. This marks an encouraging shift and shows that he isn't just a technical director in name only, but has some teeth. I think maybe you’ve got a different definition of leading the process to me. To lead the process would to my mind be the person setting everything up and doing the negotiations with clubs agents etc I doubt whether JC has ever been involved in any of that. He’s just the man with the final say at the end of the process. My impression has always been that he'd been very hands-on. But I wouldn't claim to have any particular insight, just bits and pieces like the reports he'd been the one who really wanted QSF and went out to Spain. As you say, you'd think he'd have the final say in any process.
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Post by HarryTheHat on Dec 18, 2023 16:43:19 GMT
I still don't think it's as clear cut as some are making out, wouldn't surprise me still if Eustace was announced, although of the 2, definitely prefer Schumacher..m Would definitely prefer Schumacher of the two, he's achieved more in management Eustace wouldn't be getting a look in if he hadn't previously played for us. This Board are too fond of 'jobs for the boys' for my liking - it rarely works
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Post by drippinggoatsnob on Dec 18, 2023 16:46:05 GMT
I can't say a thing and it's killing me not to. Apparently it's in the bag and it's going to be announced very soon. Can you talk yet...lol
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Post by andystokey on Dec 18, 2023 16:46:07 GMT
Here is what he looked like in his days playing for Crewe Alex. Does anyone know if Alex Morris was at Crewe whilst he was there? Morris may have been working in the academy but SS is definitely big mates with Peter Sweeney isn't he?
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Post by lordb on Dec 18, 2023 16:47:09 GMT
Why is it it’s what he’s employed to do. Who would you expect to be leading the process JC, he’ll be the man who has the final say I doubt very much he did the donkey work even when we didn’t have a DoF, technical/sporting director. He has never shown any inclination to delegate THE biggest decision he gets to make, even if it's with help of mates in the pub. This marks an encouraging shift and shows that he isn't just a technical director in name only, but has some teeth. ? I don't understand the surprise every man & his dog has been calling for a director of football to make these decisions (or at least be the driver behind them) RM has has been in place a while now what we're people expecting? I'm not convinced it's a good model as many the directors seem to be bullshitting chancers
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Post by 1948fitch on Dec 18, 2023 16:49:01 GMT
Yep when I moved to Manchester to study at the Poly in the early 80's the locals mistook my accent for scouse. I work in Manchester currently (and previously lived there for a few years about 20 years ago) and all the natives think I'm from Merseyside. The funny thing is though, I don't have a particularly strong Stoke accent and the firm I work for employs quite a few genuine Scousers (a lot of whom speak in an indecipherable spittle-flecked Carragher/Ricky Tomlinson stylee). Shirley they don't think I sound like those fuckin' meffs? same when I worked in Manchester, thought I was a "Mickey Mouser"!. then when I worked in Hull thought I was a BRummie Yeeck
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Post by greenman on Dec 18, 2023 16:49:19 GMT
Schumacher seems a bit too much like Nathan Jones in that he has had relative success only at 1 club and not a very big one.
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Post by BristolMick on Dec 18, 2023 16:50:59 GMT
Schumacher Feels like a Neil rinse and repeat signing. Not enthusiastic It would be nothing like Neil. Neil is a manager who has been around the block that somehow Johnny Coates had a hard on about. Schumacher is only in his very first job as a manager and his record so far is brilliant based on the budget he has had to work with. Argyle won the league last year with 101 points, and if they hadn't got at least 96 points wouldn't have even been promoted! It might be a big risk, or even a little underwhelming, to take on someone with such little experience but comparing him to Alex Neil is barmy. BM
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Post by baconburger on Dec 18, 2023 16:51:12 GMT
It would be very interesting to know whether he had any involvement or prior knowledge of AN’s dismissal. AN did seem like he knew he was toast in that final interview even though he tried to pretend there’s be another day. Who says Tricky brought Neil to the club. Stoke were chasing Neil well before Tricky arrived Maybe you should try reading the words nobody has implied RM had any involvement in bringing AN to Stoke.
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Post by baconburger on Dec 18, 2023 16:53:29 GMT
Schumacher Feels like a Neil rinse and repeat signing. Not enthusiastic It would be nothing like Neil. Neil is a manager who has been around the block that somehow Johnny Coates had a hard on about. Schumacher is only in his very first job as a manager and his record so far is brilliant based on the budget he has had to work with. Argyle won the league last year with 101 points, and if they hadn't got at least 96 points wouldn't have even been promoted! It might be a big risk, or even a little underwhelming, to take on someone with such little experience but comparing him to Alex Neil is barmy. BM Go for it vs arch pragmatist.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Dec 18, 2023 16:53:31 GMT
Schumacher seems a bit too much like Nathan Jones in that he has had relative success only at 1 club and not a very big one. Oh well seems like we're about to find out for better or for worse.
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Post by GrahamHyde on Dec 18, 2023 16:53:42 GMT
I don't like either of them but they'll get my full support.
Let's face it though we could appoint Pep Guardiola himself and we'd still be shit.
The Bermuda Triangle of English football.
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Post by GrahamHyde on Dec 18, 2023 16:55:07 GMT
Both a big risk, would rather go for someone like Will Still if we're going down that road.
Need to find the next Graham Potter before they become a Graham Potter.
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Post by gingerninja on Dec 18, 2023 16:55:21 GMT
I was all aboard the Schumacher train, now Eustace has his name lobbed back in the ring😳
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Post by Somebody_Told_Me on Dec 18, 2023 16:55:56 GMT
He wants his back room team to come with him, think PA fans are going to be very upset Good stuff. I'm very interested in the data analyst he'll be bringing with him. I see that Schu is very much a data driven manager, the sort of approach Stoke should've adopted years ago. To be fair, TP told me the amount of time they spent on data, it was a lot, even in his day.
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