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Post by rokerite on Dec 15, 2023 9:59:39 GMT
If it's Eustace I think he'll have you challenging for a play-off place a year from now. I'd certainly prefer him to the likely next man at Sunderland.
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Dec 15, 2023 9:59:43 GMT
Goarnnnn John! It was only ever going to be Eustace. I'm certainly not against the appointment. I think he'll be a good fit. I just worry about how much time the fans will give him after getting their hopes up following years and years and years of utter dross. He has to hit the ground running. I'd rather an announcement post-West Brom, or at least let Gallagher do West Brom amd Eustace come in next week ahead of two piss easy games. They will probably keep Gally re cost and make Eustace have him? Two lads who know the club - you can't put a price on that pal.
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Post by neddy on Dec 15, 2023 10:00:47 GMT
They will probably keep Gally re cost and make Eustace have him? Two lads who know the club - you can't put a price on that pal. I’m not saying it’s a bad thing keeping Gally I’m just stating I think that will be the case mate.
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Post by minnierover on Dec 15, 2023 10:01:14 GMT
It can’t be Eustace, why would we appoint a manager who finished below us last year, only 5 places off relegation? It’s got to be Nuno., paperwork will be in progress now.
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Post by silsdenstokie on Dec 15, 2023 10:01:41 GMT
FFP and we woukdnt have access to Jorge Mendez Why wouldn't we get access to agents? Wolves did when in the Championship. We're no different. Im fairly sure Mendez had some direct link to the Wolves board which led to them having easy access to a lot of his top players ie Neves etc. if Im wrong I apologise Yeah we’d have access but maybe not the acess he had at Wolves. Also dont think FFP was as bigger deal then. Dont get me wrong Nuno would be an exciting appointment. Just not convinced it woukd be the same situation as at Wolves
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Dec 15, 2023 10:02:11 GMT
Goarnnnn John! It was only ever going to be Eustace. I'm certainly not against the appointment. I think he'll be a good fit. I just worry about how much time the fans will give him after getting their hopes up following years and years and years of utter dross. He has to hit the ground running. I'd rather an announcement post-West Brom, or at least let Gallagher do West Brom amd Eustace come in next week ahead of two piss easy games. The timing of the appointment is ok - he's got a few weeks to assess what he's got and the January window to help sort out the issues. I think most fans realise we are in the shit and avoiding relegation will be an achievement, mid table a success. It's next season when the expectations will really kick in.
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Post by chell_rosey on Dec 15, 2023 10:02:16 GMT
It can’t be Eustace, why would we appoint a manager who finished below us last year, only 5 places off relegation? It’s got to be Nuno., paperwork will be in progress now. You've not seen the MC post, then?
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Post by andystokey on Dec 15, 2023 10:02:20 GMT
I would have liked Nuno too but, bringing in all his backroom staff and getting rid of the present lot would surely have left less money to be spent on transfers. Would people be happy with that ? The fractional costs of Gally et.al. is irrelevant in the grand scheme of things. I don't think he will stay anyway.
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Post by retrostoke on Dec 15, 2023 10:03:44 GMT
I would have liked Nuno too but, bringing in all his backroom staff and getting rid of the present lot would surely have left less money to be spent on transfers. Would people be happy with that ? Do you think Eustace will attract players? Birmingham bought well in the summer
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Post by scfcno1fan on Dec 15, 2023 10:04:11 GMT
It can’t be Eustace, why would we appoint a manager who finished below us last year, only 5 places off relegation? It’s got to be Nuno., paperwork will be in progress now. You've not seen the MC post, then? Did anyone see it? Still showing as blank for me.
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Post by neddy on Dec 15, 2023 10:06:26 GMT
You've not seen the MC post, then? Did anyone see it? Still showing as blank for me. Think it means he was confirming the thought.
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Post by FranktheRabbit on Dec 15, 2023 10:06:28 GMT
You've not seen the MC post, then? Did anyone see it? Still showing as blank for me. Blank for me as well
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Post by Jimm on Dec 15, 2023 10:06:29 GMT
Nothing will change whilst JC is running the club. Same one route vision.
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Post by chell_rosey on Dec 15, 2023 10:06:56 GMT
You've not seen the MC post, then? Did anyone see it? Still showing as blank for me. I interpreted it as confirmation of FM'S 'Eustace to be announced today' post?
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Dec 15, 2023 10:08:16 GMT
Problem with Eustace is if it does not work AGAIN then it’s Coates out. If he pushed the boat, changed his ways and employed someone different fans would have given the benefit of the doubt. Eustace is so underwhelming, and once it starts going to shit… which it will… he’s not got enough experience or backing to turn it around. He’s literally got to hit the ground running and not stop I think the risks in Eustace is hes likely to be fae more easy to manipulate for Martin and Jared for them its the perfect type of appointment to continue ther wrecking spree a Nuno or Warnock type appointment and we wll know what’s libel to happen its just when the bomb goes off , Personally i think Eustace nothing against John is a really poor appointment as its enabler for the failed DOF and head of recruitment to carry on with the vested self interest driven deluded management of our march to league one .( let’s be honest neither would get a job at anything like this level elsewhere. .) I a sure FFP is playing a part but canddily thats now an issue entirely of our own making thanks to the incompetence of the two afore- mentioned buffoons , Eustace because it extends the status quo is an appalling appointment.
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Post by jokker on Dec 15, 2023 10:08:33 GMT
If it is Eustace,then Coates has no bottle,shit scared of anything different,if Eustace turns out no better than the rubbish we have employed since relegation, Coates should step down.Which odds would you place on that happening...?
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Post by bagnallboothen on Dec 15, 2023 10:08:53 GMT
So our global search for a new manager has taken us as far as Birmingham, St George's Park and Blackburn?
Good luck SJE, you'll need it.
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Post by mrnovember on Dec 15, 2023 10:10:25 GMT
Problem with Eustace is if it does not work AGAIN then it’s Coates out. If he pushed the boat, changed his ways and employed someone different fans would have given the benefit of the doubt. Eustace is so underwhelming, and once it starts going to shit… which it will… he’s not got enough experience or backing to turn it around. He’s literally got to hit the ground running and not stop I disagree to be honest. I think a lot of us have now awoken to the idea that the Coates might not be the best people to steer the football club. Thier involvement is bordering on philanthropy. Benevolence does not equal competence. One more failed appointment that is sacked too late, be it a British dinosaur, a spicy foreigner or a space mutant from the planet Zog, will do nothing to change the fact that a lot of us think that Coates is a bit shit actually.
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Post by neddy on Dec 15, 2023 10:10:38 GMT
Problem with Eustace is if it does not work AGAIN then it’s Coates out. If he pushed the boat, changed his ways and employed someone different fans would have given the benefit of the doubt. Eustace is so underwhelming, and once it starts going to shit… which it will… he’s not got enough experience or backing to turn it around. He’s literally got to hit the ground running and not stop I think the risks in Eustace is hes likely to be fae more easy to manipulate for Martin and Jared for them its the perfect type of appointment to continue ther wrecking spree a Nuno or Warnock type appointment and we wll know what’s libel to happen its just when the bomb goes off , Personally i think Eustace nothing against John is a really poor appointment as its enabler for the failed DOF and head of recruitment to carry on with the vested self interest driven deluded management of our march to league one .( let’s be honest neither would get a job at anything like this level elsewhere. .) I a sure FFP is playing a part but canddily thats now an issue entirely of our own making thanks to the incompetence of the two afore- mentioned buffoons , Eustace because it extends the status quo is an appalling appointment. I actually agree with you re the ability for them to manipulate Eustace.
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Post by march4 on Dec 15, 2023 10:10:55 GMT
If its Eustace...who does everyone want this time next year? Joking aside, he could do really well but on the face of it, it just seems like a groundhog day appointment. You mean at Easter. We will probably bring TP or Hughes back for the final run in before we are relegated.
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Post by ursemboys on Dec 15, 2023 10:12:04 GMT
Who is living in the past ? strange quote, so you don't think our last ex manager from Birmingham was good ? Our last ex birmingham manager was terrible probably the most wasteful manager we ever had was Rowett I did say he was excluded because he was a ex derby manager lol
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Post by webbyscfc on Dec 15, 2023 10:12:53 GMT
Did Eustace ever play with Gallagher here? I can’t quite remember if Gallagher had left before Eustace came in? I think if they keep Gallagher on, Eustace and him could make a good duo and work well together.
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Post by dirtygary69 on Dec 15, 2023 10:13:29 GMT
So our global search for a new manager has taken us as far as Birmingham, St George's Park and Blackburn? Good luck SJE, you'll need it. We might have asked twenty managers far and wide and 19 of them said no, or didn't fit for us as a package. We can't blame the club for changing direction with Jared and Ricky overseeing things rather than relying on the manager, and then bring in somebody who might want to work completely differently to that model. If they think Eustace is the right man and is the only one happy working in such an environment, then that's going to be the one they appoint.
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Post by march4 on Dec 15, 2023 10:13:46 GMT
If it’s Eustace, it’s a desperately lazy decision that will knock out the final bit of stuffing from the club.
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Post by tqstokie on Dec 15, 2023 10:14:23 GMT
If it is Eustace,then Coates has no bottle,shit scared of anything different,if Eustace turns out no better than the rubbish we have employed since relegation, Coates should step down.Which odds would you place on that happening...? Bet 365 should know
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Post by pavel on Dec 15, 2023 10:14:54 GMT
We do indeed need a lift as do the players, Nuno ticks both boxes, he has the gravitas, the track record and a personality to inspire. Settling for Eustace will feel just all too familiar, more of the same, safe, stodgy and unimaginative appointment regardless whether that’s a fair assessment or not. For me he’s another in a long line of beige managers touted and relatively untested and fairly inexperienced too boot. This next managerial appointment is crucial and may define us for years to come, we need to be bold and pull out all the stops for the best we can get. And you know he isn't the best we can get? I'd I've liked Nuno as much as anyone but if his demands are beyond us than it can't happen. Carsley would be a brilliant coach but given our structure could well have baulked at the actual job he was being offered and (rightly) pulled out. Eustace saved Birmingham, firm candidates for relegation last season, from the drop and took them to 6th place before thier owners decided to "pull out all the stops" and get a big name in. They are now 16th. Given where we are Eustace is a pretty good fit - he was unlucky at Birmingham not to be given the chance to show what he could do having put in the hard graft last season. He's shown he can steer a club away from relegation - and that has to be the priority this season given where we are - and is bound to have the drive to prove what he can do given what happened to him at Birmingham. I'm not thrilled at the prospect of Eustace in the same way as I am about others on the list but there are definitely some sound reasons for appointing him given his recent track record and where we are and it's lazy to say it's just a same old same old appointment just because he's British and not a big name. I’ve been quite clear in saying whether mine and many fans assessment is fair or not regarding Eustace. His record is not outstanding however, he’s not seen as a radical thinker about the game, just more of the same from the board, a safe option if they do appoint him. I would prefer Carsley, though he would be a gamble. I don’t really think the board is lazy but it seems too cautious and predictable in its appointments. I don’t care if the manager’s foreign or British, I just want a progressive manager who can start to turn our club into a team I want to watch again. My fear is that if we go down the Eustace path and he fails or doesn’t inspire he will not be cut much slack by the fans and the disenchantment with the club will grow. It’s different failing when you’ve been bold than going out with a whimper by playing safe. I’d rather be bold.
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Post by dirtygary69 on Dec 15, 2023 10:14:57 GMT
Did Eustace ever play with Gallagher here? I can’t quite remember if Gallagher had left before Eustace came in? I think if they keep Gallagher on, Eustace and him could make a good duo and work well together. I think Eustace was probably here but barely played due to injuries. I don't recall them on the pitch together at any point, especially under Boskamp.
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Post by LGH87 on Dec 15, 2023 10:15:29 GMT
If it is Eustace, then we have zero ambition.
We had the chance to go and get foreign, or find the next McKenna/Carrick etc and no we plump for the ex player whose been managing 40 mins away and did a decent job at keeping them up.
This was a massive opportunity to galvanise the club and take us in a new direction and instead they’re going to appoint Rowett mk2.
Absolutely get to fuck John Coates. We’ve had enough.
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Post by jokker on Dec 15, 2023 10:16:07 GMT
Christ, that confirms it then. Could turn very sour, very quickly. Fingers crossed for some early promising performances and results; not sure fans will show much patience. Good luck SJE 🙌🤞🤞🤞🤞🙌 I don't think that at all. Stoke supporters have been much more patient with unsuccessful managers than at your average CL club. It's quite likely that certain oatcake mad men will be taking odds already on how long before the new manager is sacked, but 99,9% of Stoke supporters will be behind him to do well.
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Post by andystokey on Dec 15, 2023 10:16:11 GMT
Problem with Eustace is if it does not work AGAIN then it’s Coates out. If he pushed the boat, changed his ways and employed someone different fans would have given the benefit of the doubt. Eustace is so underwhelming, and once it starts going to shit… which it will… he’s not got enough experience or backing to turn it around. He’s literally got to hit the ground running and not stop I think the risks in Eustace is hes likely to be fae more easy to manipulate for Martin and Jared for them its the perfect type of appointment to continue ther wrecking spree a Nuno or Warnock type appointment and we wll know what’s libel to happen its just when the bomb goes off , Personally i think Eustace nothing against John is a really poor appointment as its enabler for the failed DOF and head of recruitment to carry on with the vested self interest driven deluded management of our march to league one .( let’s be honest neither would get a job at anything like this level elsewhere. .) I a sure FFP is playing a part but canddily thats now an issue entirely of our own making thanks to the incompetence of the two afore- mentioned buffoons , Eustace because it extends the status quo is an appalling appointment. With Eustace RM can establish himself as the Sporting Director and have him as a direct report. I doubt they could establish that with a more mature candidate.
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