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Post by Scouse on Nov 17, 2023 14:25:10 GMT
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Post by skip on Nov 17, 2023 15:12:57 GMT
Quite simply, the Premier League, have timed Everton's points deduction to ensure that they don't go down and the effect is minimal. They have waited until Everton, have got in an experienced manager ( Dysche) , a few decent results, a bit of form and then give them a points deduction, measured to give them every chance of staying up . Nice to have friends in high places. The FA doesn't have it's lodge above the Freemason's Arms pub on Long Acre for nothing... |
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Post by skip on Nov 17, 2023 15:14:16 GMT
And Man City will never get done because if they did it would make a sham out of roughly the last ten years of the Premier League.
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Post by atillathehoneybee on Nov 17, 2023 15:30:22 GMT
When will the big boys get done? Makes zero difference. If Citeh get docked it wont hurt them one bit. What they should do is impose relegation like they did to Swindon a few years ago, and like the Jocks did to Rangers And a transfer embargo... |
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Nov 17, 2023 15:35:29 GMT
Mountains of evidence apparently. A lot of it leaked and looked at concluding they're fooked. But somehow they'll avoid anything. They'll be protected i reckon and their clever lawyers will ensure it goes away. They've obviously controlled the media as we never hear a peep about it nowadays. Total joke. Yep but no one knows exactly what they're apparently guilty of apart from what we've read in the media and seems to be brought up by opposition fans without full knowledge. The whole FFP thing needs canning anyway. Wouldn't do us any harm if it was of course. Ots about them shifting money between different companies to make man city look like its not breaking rules. They've even got emails of senior execs in man city revealing they know they are doing it. They are bang to rights. But they will obfuscate like they did last time. The league needs to hammer them or its out and out corruption. |
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Nov 17, 2023 15:48:35 GMT
Yep but no one knows exactly what they're apparently guilty of apart from what we've read in the media and seems to be brought up by opposition fans without full knowledge. The whole FFP thing needs canning anyway. Wouldn't do us any harm if it was of course. Ots about them shifting money between different companies to make man city look like its not breaking rules. They've even got emails of senior execs in man city revealing they know they are doing it. They are bang to rights. But they will obfuscate like they did last time. The league needs to hammer them or its out and out corruption. For another day but yep. Seems a lot of Everton fans trying to deflect what their own club are guilty of |
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Post by SamB_SCFC on Nov 17, 2023 15:50:08 GMT
When will the big boys get done? Makes zero difference. If Citeh get docked it wont hurt them one bit. What they should do is impose relegation like they did to Swindon a few years ago, and like the Jocks did to Rangers And a transfer embargo... Rangers didn't get relegated. They went bust and had to reform at the bottom. The only problem with relegation is all it does is punish teams like us in The Championship by taking a promotion place away. Within a couple of years they'll be back in the Champions League again. Best thing would be either a multi season points deduction, or multi season ban from the Champions League. |
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Post by maninasuitcase on Nov 17, 2023 16:02:25 GMT
Can we have our fa cup back yet?
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Post by march4 on Nov 17, 2023 16:18:13 GMT
Can we have our fa cup back yet? Would they dare? It would be great if they did. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2023 16:29:26 GMT
Yep but no one knows exactly what they're apparently guilty of apart from what we've read in the media and seems to be brought up by opposition fans without full knowledge. The whole FFP thing needs canning anyway. Wouldn't do us any harm if it was of course. Ots about them shifting money between different companies to make man city look like its not breaking rules. They've even got emails of senior execs in man city revealing they know they are doing it. They are bang to rights. But they will obfuscate like they did last time. The league needs to hammer them or its out and out corruption. Unfortunately Sheikh Mansour's family, who own Man City, are trillionaires . It's hard to imagine to they haven't ' fixed things ' . I am certain they have broke the rules. I would be amazed if anything meaningful is done about it. |
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Post by skip on Nov 17, 2023 16:34:38 GMT
Ots about them shifting money between different companies to make man city look like its not breaking rules. They've even got emails of senior execs in man city revealing they know they are doing it. They are bang to rights. But they will obfuscate like they did last time. The league needs to hammer them or its out and out corruption. Unfortunately Sheikh Mansour's family, who own Man City, are trillionaires . It's hard to imagine to they haven't ' fixed things ' . I am certain they have broke the rules. I would be amazed if anything meaningful is done about it. The stupidity is that with owners richer than everyone else put together, they could still buy the title without sorting to playing fast and loose with the rules. |
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Post by werrington on Nov 17, 2023 16:38:46 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2023 16:39:03 GMT
Good season to be docked points, still only one win of being safe...........  Yeah they are on mid table form also. 20 odd games plenty to stay up. The amusing thing about the photo is the thought process, that led Burnley to conclude they don't need the likes of Sean Dysche , managing their football team , in the premier League. |
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Post by skip on Nov 17, 2023 16:48:18 GMT
Yeah they are on mid table form also. 20 odd games plenty to stay up. The amusing thing about the photo is the thought process, that led Burnley to conclude they don't need the likes of Sean Dysche , managing their football team , in the premier League. 4 points from 36 for Everton? Needs fucking off sharpish! |
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Nov 17, 2023 16:49:35 GMT
Can we have our fa cup back yet? Would they dare? It would be great if they did. Open top bus and a belated knighthood for Sir Tony 😆 👍 |
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Post by Boothen on Nov 17, 2023 17:11:48 GMT
It's all fucking corrupt, top to bottom. These points should've been docked last season and they should already be in the Championship now.
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Post by silsdenstokie on Nov 17, 2023 17:12:24 GMT
Always quite liked the Toffees but this as probs come at the best possible time it coukd have for them
Intersting to see what happens with Man City/Chelsea now
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Post by Squeekster on Nov 17, 2023 17:31:53 GMT
Ots about them shifting money between different companies to make man city look like its not breaking rules. They've even got emails of senior execs in man city revealing they know they are doing it. They are bang to rights. But they will obfuscate like they did last time. The league needs to hammer them or its out and out corruption. Unfortunately Sheikh Mansour's family, who own Man City, are trillionaires . It's hard to imagine to they haven't ' fixed things ' . I am certain they have broke the rules. I would be amazed if anything meaningful is done about it. Didn't Citeh get away with it before because the dates UEFA had were different to ones Citeh had and it was made clear that the Arab banks had changed the dates of the transactions so they didn't fall into 10 year limit for prosecution, also they still have 115 charges against them. Just listening to the reporter from the Athletic Everton were given plenty of time and have lied and done other things that do warrant the punishment in regards to the rules. |
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Post by Gods on Nov 17, 2023 18:22:21 GMT
Good season to be docked points, still only one win of being safe........... Yes, they should be fine. |
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Nov 17, 2023 18:37:07 GMT
Good to see.
No doubt an appeal will be incoming and I'd not be surprised if it was ultimately halved.
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Post by eddyclamp on Nov 17, 2023 19:05:23 GMT
If you were a fan of the teams that went down you would be livid. But they are minnows so don’t count to some.
Can you imagine the shit getting relegated in these circumstances?
Everton have not been punished with this deduction but the clubs that went down last season have for playing by the rules.
I hope the governments stance will improve things and clear out these twats.
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Post by leicspotter on Nov 17, 2023 19:08:11 GMT
Very true Talk of Burnley and court action now why would Burnley take legal action? I read that all 3 relegated sides had written to the potential buyers of Everton warning that, if the PL found them guilty, then these 3 clubs would sue for £100m each as compensation for being effectively 'cheated' out of their PL status, I guess Leicester would be front and centre in this |
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Post by pavel on Nov 17, 2023 19:08:37 GMT
When will the big boys get done? In reality they are one of the big boys (lapsed) and probably will be again. However agree with the sentiment, two word answer to your question, probably never. |
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Post by nonameface on Nov 17, 2023 19:09:34 GMT
Unfortunately Sheikh Mansour's family, who own Man City, are trillionaires . It's hard to imagine to they haven't ' fixed things ' . I am certain they have broke the rules. I would be amazed if anything meaningful is done about it. Didn't Citeh get away with it before because the dates UEFA had were different to ones Citeh had and it was made clear that the Arab banks had changed the dates of the transactions so they didn't fall into 10 year limit for prosecution, also they still have 115 charges against them. Just listening to the reporter from the Athletic Everton were given plenty of time and have lied and done other things that do warrant the punishment in regards to the rules. Think what happened with Man City is the charges brought out about them came too late and so missed a deadline by when the charges should have been brought forward. So the charges were dropped as they were time barred. Its the reason this time there are so many charges and within the correct time period. Not sure of the exact amount of time you can go back, but unfortunately probably means they continue to hold the fa cup against us. But they could be giving up alot now, potentially including last year's results! |
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Post by shrewspotter on Nov 17, 2023 19:38:55 GMT
Now for Man City hopefully. And if they don't its all a total scam. don't be silly, we need to lick their arseholes and be grateful when they let us mate, we can't piss off the arabs. What on earth are you thinking |
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Post by Scrotnig on Nov 17, 2023 20:02:29 GMT
I’m always against these punishments. It punishes the fans, who are blameless.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Nov 17, 2023 20:08:29 GMT
I’m always against these punishments. It punishes the fans, who are blameless. Except arsenal fans of course. Utter knuts the absolute lot of em 😆 |
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Post by spitthedog on Nov 17, 2023 22:24:24 GMT
So for just a 10 points deduction it was probably worth breaking the rules!
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Nov 17, 2023 23:02:10 GMT
So for just a 10 points deduction it was probably worth breaking the rules! Indeed. Especially as they should have had it last season. Load of bollox. Its all a load of bent bollox |
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Post by stokecitytalke on Nov 18, 2023 10:03:29 GMT
They'll appeal and it will be reduced to 5 points.
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