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Post by WorkingclassHero on Nov 12, 2023 17:12:32 GMT
People really don’t seem to like this or want to hear it but it needs to be said. We’re better defensively without him. He shouldn’t get back in this team bar a massive drop in form of either of the current two centre halves. So rather than admit maybe we were hasty calling our defence shit, instead we lay into the guy out injured. I hope for your own sake you are just trolling, as if not being you must be seriously depressing
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Post by WorkingclassHero on Nov 12, 2023 17:14:08 GMT
Dear Ben, If you're reading this drivel, please ignore it. This post was created by an attention seeking bell end. Get well soon, and look forward to seeing you in the Red & White soon. Yours, A sane Stoke supporter Why this crap is not instantly shiy binned I have no idea
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Post by thornestein on Nov 12, 2023 17:18:16 GMT
Dear Ben, If you're reading this drivel, please ignore it. This post was created by an attention seeking bell end. Get well soon, and look forward to seeing you in the Red & White soon. Yours, A sane Stoke supporter Why this crap is not instantly shiy binned I have no idea maybe because people are entitled to their opinions if you loke it or not , hes a decent squad player imo
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Post by WorkingclassHero on Nov 12, 2023 17:34:13 GMT
Why this crap is not instantly shiy binned I have no idea maybe because people are entitled to their opinions if you loke it or not , hes a decent squad player imo Which is obviously the case, some people just want to start arguments which is pretty clear the whole point of this post. He is clearly a top half xhamp defender
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Post by thornestein on Nov 12, 2023 17:58:46 GMT
maybe because people are entitled to their opinions if you loke it or not , hes a decent squad player imo Which is obviously the case, some people just want to start arguments which is pretty clear the whole point of this post. He is clearly a top half xhamp defender more mid table player imo
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Post by idle on Nov 12, 2023 18:11:22 GMT
I'd rather replace Johnson than Hoever. A moot point anyway as Junior isn't available (or at least wasn't). You've also dropped Leris, who has been very good, if a bit inconsistent (but who hasn't? This is the championship). I think using both Junho and Junior on the right is lacking a bit of inexperience. ........................Bonham....................... .Hoever.........McNally..........Rose........Stevens. ................Pearson.........Burger............... .........................Junho....................... .Leris...................Mmaee...............Vidigal. We need to develop the connections, and we definitely saw the missing cooperation between Stevens and Vidigal yesterday, while Hoever and Leris are pretty good defensively together. Sorry, but I don't trust Hoever. I also think he is a bit overrated when it comes to the attacking side of the play. Well those wonder goals last season and the two(?) this one do count for something, but he's too inconsistant going forward. So, we could use Junior and Haks on the right. I wonder why Haks wasn't in the squad?
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Post by stantheman on Nov 12, 2023 18:17:11 GMT
Dear Ben, If you're reading this drivel, please ignore it. This post was created by an attention seeking bell end. Get well soon, and look forward to seeing you in the Red & White soon. Yours, A sane Stoke supporter Why this crap is not instantly shiy binned I have no idea Mr Hero, Cool your jets.....
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Nov 12, 2023 18:56:27 GMT
I was taking to my therapist today about the prevailing nature of people these days to be a bit self serving and deluded. I showed her this message board. She agreed that Bayern is a cunt. No need for that in fairness, pull the piss outta him or mock him (I’m sure he’s used to it) but that’s crossing the line for me
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Post by nonameface on Nov 12, 2023 19:05:20 GMT
I was taking to my therapist today about the prevailing nature of people these days to be a bit self serving and deluded. I showed her this message board. She agreed that Bayern is a cunt. No need for that in fairness, pull the piss outta him or mock him (I’m sure he’s used to it) but that’s crossing the line for me Completely agree. This site is for us to find out about the latest information to an extent but mainly for the opinions. Bayern is an excellent poster, definitely not vanilla is he! In the same way we can disagree with anyone's opinions, everyone else is entitled to disagree about ours. Similarly, some of us may be more or less strong minded with views, but again that's good right?
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Post by leicspotter on Nov 12, 2023 19:30:47 GMT
Bayern has a new target (not Wilmot, he's just collateral damage) of 150,000 posts and this tripe is merrily sending him on his way Doh!
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Post by leicspotter on Nov 12, 2023 19:39:16 GMT
Reference the original post, we need to be honest here. The clean sheet yesterday had far more to do with Cov's wayward finishing than our defence. Three free headers ffs. Any of those go in and plenty on here would want Rose and McNally lynched form the nearest lampost.
As v Cardiff our passing was poor at crucial times and often set them up, they were just too panicked to take advantage.
Hoever needs benching before he does some real damage, either Gooch or Junior should start v Blackburn 'cos I fear that their forwards will punish us where cardiff and Cov. failed
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Post by ceejays on Nov 12, 2023 21:40:22 GMT
Wilmot is by far our best defender. The stats prove that if your agendas and attention seekers wont recognise it . He’s the quickest player on the books . He’s had to play alongside an ageing Jagielka and slow coach Taylor trying his best to cover their deficiencies. Bonham is an excellent goalkeeper for this crap division and has proved his knockers wrong . Wilmot will do the same. Wasn’t he played of the year last year ? So B.O I wont reply or even read whatever garbage you now post . That said you posted a sensible reply re the character of our premier league team epitomised by a certain John Walters ( lol )
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Post by lordb on Nov 12, 2023 21:44:57 GMT
Reference the original post, we need to be honest here. The clean sheet yesterday had far more to do with Cov's wayward finishing than our defence. Three free headers ffs. Any of those go in and plenty on here would want Rose and McNally lynched form the nearest lampost. As v Cardiff our passing was poor at crucial times and often set them up, they were just too panicked to take advantage. Hoever needs benching before he does some real damage, either Gooch or Junior should start v Blackburn 'cos I fear that their forwards will punish us where cardiff and Cov. failed The Simms one was a foul on Rose I thought, climbed all over him The two second half ones were free headers and should have been scored, I thought we generally defended well but lucky point because of those chances (& just the one chance for us) Cardiff are a better side than Cov and in form, we properly shut them that, that was a better point Blackburn are very up and down, fancy a comfortable home win or a big defeat
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Post by bassmaster on Nov 12, 2023 21:49:39 GMT
I was taking to my therapist today about the prevailing nature of people these days to be a bit self serving and deluded. I showed her this message board. She agreed that Bayern is a cunt. No need for that in fairness, pull the piss outta him or mock him (I’m sure he’s used to it) but that’s crossing the line for me Bollocks, he’s a massive cunt. Whether you find him acceptable is a different matter altogether.
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Post by Block 26 on Nov 12, 2023 21:56:33 GMT
I do think that Wilmot is overrated but he’s better than Rose.
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Post by retrostoke on Nov 12, 2023 21:59:07 GMT
WTF is wrong with people on here. Constantly looking to single people out to tell them how Shit they are.
We are a mid to bottom Championship team. Wilmot puts a shift in. He’s not fkin perfect but he does a job for us and he does it to best of his ability.
FFS. Get some measure of reality. Give some credit to those who give all they have on the pitch.
What the hell are you expecting.
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Post by thisisouryear on Nov 12, 2023 22:12:44 GMT
Wilmot would be good Defensive mid.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Nov 12, 2023 22:56:36 GMT
I'm not really convinced by any of them.
Wilmott is technically a better player than Rose but Rose is a better out and out defender. However both make suicidal passes and are error prone. The one thing going for Rose is that he appears to get away with his errors and Wilmott doesn't.
I really wasn't impressed by McNally at first but he has settled down and started to look the part. Still a bit raw but looks to have some potential.
At the moment I'd stick with Rose and McNally based on the if it ain't broke principle but there really isn't a lot between them and Wilmott could easily get the nod if either of the incumbents have a dip in form or luck.
If we have money to blow on improving the squad I'd invest it all on the defence (including the keeper) - despite recent results I think this is still our weakest area.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Nov 12, 2023 23:13:38 GMT
Wilmot is a good defender who like many other defenders in the championship is prone to lapses of concentration even when playing well.It’ll interesting to see when he returns if Rose and McNally keep their partnership going because at the minute it would be hard to break it up with 1 goal conceded in the last 5 games He's not though, he's weak, poor in the air and continually makes mistakes and whoever told him he's good at passing needs sacking. He's been a main stay in a pretty poor defence, as soon as he's gone it's improved.
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Post by Block 26 on Nov 13, 2023 21:59:15 GMT
Wilmot is a good defender who like many other defenders in the championship is prone to lapses of concentration even when playing well.It’ll interesting to see when he returns if Rose and McNally keep their partnership going because at the minute it would be hard to break it up with 1 goal conceded in the last 5 games He's not though, he's weak, poor in the air and continually makes mistakes and whoever told him he's good at passing needs sacking. He's been a main stay in a pretty poor defence, as soon as he's gone it's improved. Wilmot before his injury was the one who was tasked with the long switch ball. & was very accurate with it tbf to him. Agree with the rest though.
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Post by tommycarlsberg on Nov 13, 2023 22:30:15 GMT
WTF is wrong with people on here. Constantly looking to single people out to tell them how Shit they are. We are a mid to bottom Championship team. Wilmot puts a shift in. He’s not fkin perfect but he does a job for us and he does it to best of his ability. FFS. Get some measure of reality. Give some credit to those who give all they have on the pitch. What the hell are you expecting. Better players so we can get promoted.
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Post by Squeekster on Nov 13, 2023 23:29:16 GMT
Shocking that two players who already know how each other play (because they played and trained together last year) are somehow more on the same page 😂 Bayern has given up on booing Bonham for a couple of weeks so now he’s turned to a player injured while playing for Stoke. Wilmot has been crap from the get go here. He brings nothing but panic to the backline. Heh Heh Heh, sometimes you have some valid astute opinions and other times talk some utter shit, this being the latter in my opinion, I have mine just like you.
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Post by nottsover60 on Nov 13, 2023 23:59:20 GMT
Wilmot is a good defender who like many other defenders in the championship is prone to lapses of concentration even when playing well.It’ll interesting to see when he returns if Rose and McNally keep their partnership going because at the minute it would be hard to break it up with 1 goal conceded in the last 5 games He's not though, he's weak, poor in the air and continually makes mistakes and whoever told him he's good at passing needs sacking. He's been a main stay in a pretty poor defence, as soon as he's gone it's improved. That could be a description of Rose as well. The Simm's header wasn't a foul, it was a forward going for the ball and the defender (Rose) not being strong enough. The defence improved over the last international break when a lot of work was obviously put in to improve the whole team's defensive responsibilities and understanding of what is expected of them especially covering for a team mate's mistakes. Unfortunately Wilmot was injured. A player who was our best defender (while playing on the left not his favoured right) for ten matches doesn't suddenly become our worst. As for his passing, his long passes are the most progressive passes any of our players make. Unfortunately he takes risks playing them but tell me that Rose and McNally haven't made poor passes over the last five matches because I have seen Rose in particular frequently give the ball away
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Post by cvillestokie on Nov 14, 2023 0:01:02 GMT
Wilmot would be good Defensive mid. Potentially. It’s hard to know given that we’ve never given it a shot. That they’ve now signed two players (Burger + Pearson) to play there, I doubt that we will know.
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Post by kerouac on Nov 14, 2023 13:23:40 GMT
I wouldn’t be bothered in the slightest if I never saw him in the red and white again.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Nov 14, 2023 16:29:34 GMT
Irrespective of personnel, our 2 centre halves look much more comfortable playing in a back 4 with what appear to be very simple instructions.
I’m sure Wilmot would benefit in the same way were he one of the 2 centre halves playing.
It’s nice to see Rose and McNally starting to improve and play well after early season criticism from many (me included)
McNally is playing really well. Rose I’m less convinced by. He’s still making mistakes but for a change they aren’t being punished.
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Post by lordb on Nov 14, 2023 18:47:52 GMT
Irrespective of personnel, our 2 centre halves look much more comfortable playing in a back 4 with what appear to be very simple instructions. I’m sure Wilmot would benefit in the same way were he one of the 2 centre halves playing. It’s nice to see Rose and McNally starting to improve and play well after early season criticism from many (me included) McNally is playing really well. Rose I’m less convinced by. He’s still making mistakes but for a change they aren’t being punished. They are also holding a higher line
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Post by davejohnno1 on Nov 14, 2023 19:15:28 GMT
Irrespective of personnel, our 2 centre halves look much more comfortable playing in a back 4 with what appear to be very simple instructions. I’m sure Wilmot would benefit in the same way were he one of the 2 centre halves playing. It’s nice to see Rose and McNally starting to improve and play well after early season criticism from many (me included) McNally is playing really well. Rose I’m less convinced by. He’s still making mistakes but for a change they aren’t being punished. They are also holding a higher line Wilmot is quicker than both of them so in that regard the higher line should suit him and mean his mistakes will be further away from the goal. Only concern with that, is that in my opinion, Wilmot's biggest weakness was often getting caught far too easily by that long, straight ball over the top.
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Post by baconburger on Nov 15, 2023 9:39:17 GMT
Irrespective of personnel, our 2 centre halves look much more comfortable playing in a back 4 with what appear to be very simple instructions. I’m sure Wilmot would benefit in the same way were he one of the 2 centre halves playing. It’s nice to see Rose and McNally starting to improve and play well after early season criticism from many (me included) McNally is playing really well. Rose I’m less convinced by. He’s still making mistakes but for a change they aren’t being punished. They’re still making individual errors which is only to be expected they’re championship level defenders. I’ll still be happy to see Wilmot restored I think his contribution to our overall play is higher than the other two. McNally and Wilmot would be my starting pair when available.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 17, 2024 0:47:46 GMT
It’s appearing again.
He’s so bad.
Why does Schumacher keep playing him?
He cannot start another game this season. The bloke is an utter liability.
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