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Post by stiggerstackle on Sept 27, 2023 8:46:22 GMT
I think he's a decent player, but does have a howler in him. I read somewhere on here that he started out as a defensive midfielder, and that's where he's most comfortable? Sounds about right to me - he's got the attributes for that type of role - why not convert him? As others have said, develop a partnership of McNally & Rose and push Wilmott forward. It's not like the manager has an aversion to playing players out of position  *I also think he's very much a confidence player - why the fuck AN would throw him under the bus mystifies me. |
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Post by bertiestan on Sept 27, 2023 9:49:18 GMT
I think he's a decent player, but does have a howler in him. I read somewhere on here that he started out as a defensive midfielder, and that's where he's most comfortable? Sounds about right to me - he's got the attributes for that type of role - why not convert him? As others have said, develop a partnership of McNally & Rose and push Wilmott forward. It's not like the manager has an aversion to playing players out of position *I also think he's very much a confidence player - why the fuck AN would throw him under the bus mystifies me. So a club that is short on center half's should concert their best center half into a midfielder🤷🏼♂️ ffs🤦🏼♂️😂 |
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Sept 27, 2023 9:51:43 GMT
Post by stiggerstackle on Sept 27, 2023 9:51:43 GMT
I think he's a decent player, but does have a howler in him. I read somewhere on here that he started out as a defensive midfielder, and that's where he's most comfortable? Sounds about right to me - he's got the attributes for that type of role - why not convert him? As others have said, develop a partnership of McNally & Rose and push Wilmott forward. It's not like the manager has an aversion to playing players out of position *I also think he's very much a confidence player - why the fuck AN would throw him under the bus mystifies me. So a club that is short on center half's should concert their best center half into a midfielder🤷🏼♂️ ffs🤦🏼♂️😂 I didn't mean as of today and without a replacement plan, he's a young player who is here to stay - surely we want to develop him into the best player he can be? Also - read the fucking thread - if he's as wank as everyone says then he's no loss. |
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Sept 27, 2023 13:23:55 GMT
Good player - I like Wilmot and there's still scope for improvement given his age.
The worry is he still makes the same individual errors time and time again, and this hasn't changed for 3 seasons.
It's disappointing that we didn't bring in a left-sided centre back to partner him in a back four.
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Sept 27, 2023 14:14:25 GMT
Post by pez75 on Sept 27, 2023 14:14:25 GMT
Hang him out to dry 🤣 He’s been crap wherever he’s played for us. He’s a scapegoat. He’s much better on the right. The manager is an idiot A bit OTT. If he is as good as some are saying then a slight shuffle across the back shouldn't trouble him too much and is certainly not scapegoating? He has played on the left of a CB pairing plenty of times before. As has already been pointed out, his errors on Sunday were not caused by the pressure of being 'hung out to dry' it was just ineptitude. Any CH who gets outmuscled by Bidace needs to take a minute to reconsider their choice of career TBH... |
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Sept 27, 2023 14:25:44 GMT
Post by dirtclod on Sept 27, 2023 14:25:44 GMT
Wilmot dons that shirt and plays for it - so I like him. Yes, he has mistakes in him but he's not 30 yrs old either and we need to up our coaching to where it starts showing on the pitch.
Adopting some sort of consistent system and tactics would help instead of pretending that we're facing Real Madrid one week and Juventus the next.
Enough Alex - just identify "our system" and play it!
Keep seeing "coaching gaps" where these guys aren't sure of where to be/what to do. A little coaching is certainly better than just bolloxing people when they screw up.
Of course I have no insight as to what the "mood" in the dressing-room is, especially this early on.
Would hazard a guess that confusion plays a role.
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Post by reddipotter on Sept 27, 2023 14:41:25 GMT
He’s a scapegoat. He’s much better on the right. The manager is an idiot A bit OTT. If he is as good as some are saying then a slight shuffle across the back shouldn't trouble him too much and is certainly not scapegoating? He has played on the left of a CB pairing plenty of times before. As has already been pointed out, his errors on Sunday were not caused by the pressure of being 'hung out to dry' it was just ineptitude. Any CH who gets outmuscled by Bidace needs to take a minute to reconsider their choice of career TBH... A successful centreback partnership needs to play together consistently to create understanding. Wilmot has played across both two and three centrebacks (plus at right back) with goodness knows how many partners. How is he supposed to settle? On Sunday I don't think he was outmuscled I think he was beaten for pace- hardly surprising when he was essentially asked to play left back against a very good winger. |
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Sept 27, 2023 14:44:44 GMT
Post by HarryTheHat on Sept 27, 2023 14:44:44 GMT
A bit OTT. If he is as good as some are saying then a slight shuffle across the back shouldn't trouble him too much and is certainly not scapegoating? He has played on the left of a CB pairing plenty of times before. As has already been pointed out, his errors on Sunday were not caused by the pressure of being 'hung out to dry' it was just ineptitude. Any CH who gets outmuscled by Bidace needs to take a minute to reconsider their choice of career TBH... A successful centreback partnership needs to play together consistently to create understanding. Wilmot has played across both two and three centrebacks (plus at right back) with goodness knows how many partners. How is he supposed to settle? On Sunday I don't think he was outmuscled I think he was beaten for pace- hardly surprising when he was essentially asked to play left back against a very good winger. He absolutely wasn't outmuscled it was pure pace that beat him, which isn't surprising as he's a centre back not a left back and centre backs generally aren't light on their feet in the same way that wingers and full-backs are |
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Sept 27, 2023 14:59:13 GMT
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Sept 27, 2023 14:59:13 GMT
He's good on the ball and he can make an eye catching pass. His positioning is terrible at times and he has a tendency to make mistakes that lead to goals on a regular basis. He's both a good and a bad player - depends what you choose to ignore. I prefer consistency and reliability over flair in a CB so unless he improves in that regard he wouldn't make my starting 11 - I'd actually start Rose and McNally and be looking to get better at the first opportunity. I don't think he's all that good on the ball tbh, he can ping it though to be fair to him. I think I said this before, but he reminds me of Stones, needs taking out of the side for a little while so he can work on things then be brought back the issue is we don't have any others to cover, it really is a massive bollock dropped. Stones is a good comparison. I think he would have benefitted by having a grizzled old pro alongside him and I think you are right in terms of dropping a bollock in putting the defence together. Needs addressing at Xmas. |
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Sept 27, 2023 15:15:50 GMT
Post by tejstokie on Sept 27, 2023 15:15:50 GMT
The mere fact half this club's fanbase can't even remember the two other CBs Wilmot has the joy to play alongside each week, mind you a pair that even Stevenage wouldn't consider trying out, even if you sent them with quid full in their pockets tells you all you need to know about this thread and it's usual scapegoat target. It isn't Wilmot, it's the manager and his staff letting go several great CB's who would've lead the line with Wilmot supporting and now leaving us with only Ben and to top it off, playing out of his preferred and more suited position.
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Post by Northy on Sept 27, 2023 16:26:19 GMT
Our defence, led primarily by Wilmot has, by in large been absolutely awful this season. Yet time and time again Wilmot comes out top of the stats. In recent times he has been top of tackles won, duels won, headers won and now this Highest number of accurate long balls p90 in the ninety-two 🎯 👑 B. Wilmot (#scfc) - 8.1 🥈 W. Hoedt (#watfordfc) - 8.0 ➡️ N. Maher (#gtfc) - 8.0 4️⃣ D. Hyan (#rovers) - 7.9 5️⃣ G. Dobson (#cafc) - 7.6 6️⃣ L. Reed (#stags) - 7.4 7️⃣ Rodri (#mcfc) - 7.3 I can't cope. Stats are OK, but don't show opposition players drifting in on the blind side stats |
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Sept 27, 2023 16:36:52 GMT
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Post by baconburger on Sept 27, 2023 16:36:52 GMT
Is jagielka still available? Yeah right he wasn’t a liability at all🤣🤣🤣🤣 |
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Sept 27, 2023 19:59:15 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 27, 2023 19:59:15 GMT
He’s doing well again?
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Sept 27, 2023 20:15:51 GMT
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Post by Biblical on Sept 27, 2023 20:15:51 GMT
I think we’ve made some good signings in other positions but unless we can somehow stay within touching distance of the play-offs until the transfer windows and then sign at least a couple of CB’s then we can pretty much write off this season again.
Wilmot is simply not good enough for a promotion chasing side. Huge question marks also remain over Rose.
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Sept 27, 2023 20:24:14 GMT
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Post by Maccasbarmyarmy on Sept 27, 2023 20:24:14 GMT
Piss poor
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Post by robstokie on Sept 28, 2023 6:29:31 GMT
I think he's a decent player, but does have a howler in him. I read somewhere on here that he started out as a defensive midfielder, and that's where he's most comfortable? Sounds about right to me - he's got the attributes for that type of role - why not convert him? As others have said, develop a partnership of McNally & Rose and push Wilmott forward. It's not like the manager has an aversion to playing players out of position *I also think he's very much a confidence player - why the fuck AN would throw him under the bus mystifies me. The big issue for me is that he is not a leader at the back - he needs someone in alongside him who can coach him through games, telling him when to press up, when to drop off, when to attack the ball as well as deal with the nitty gritty stuff. There's obviously a decent player in there, but only with an experienced head in there too (think Jagielka, Batth, Souttar a leader too) |
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Sept 28, 2023 12:57:26 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2023 12:57:26 GMT
I think he's a decent player, but does have a howler in him. I read somewhere on here that he started out as a defensive midfielder, and that's where he's most comfortable? Sounds about right to me - he's got the attributes for that type of role - why not convert him? As others have said, develop a partnership of McNally & Rose and push Wilmott forward. It's not like the manager has an aversion to playing players out of position *I also think he's very much a confidence player - why the fuck AN would throw him under the bus mystifies me. The big issue for me is that he is not a leader at the back - he needs someone in alongside him who can coach him through games, telling him when to press up, when to drop off, when to attack the ball as well as deal with the nitty gritty stuff. There's obviously a decent player in there, but only with an experienced head in there too (think Jagielka, Batth, Souttar a leader too) I think it's the same issue with McNally who was very good with MacFadzean. They both need a talker next to them. Rose just isn't Championship standard. We really are in the shit until January at the earliest. |
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Post by biddulphchav on Sept 28, 2023 13:43:19 GMT
The big issue for me is that he is not a leader at the back - he needs someone in alongside him who can coach him through games, telling him when to press up, when to drop off, when to attack the ball as well as deal with the nitty gritty stuff. There's obviously a decent player in there, but only with an experienced head in there too (think Jagielka, Batth, Souttar a leader too) I think it's the same issue with McNally who was very good with MacFadzean. They both need a talker next to them. Rose just isn't Championship standard. We really are in the shit until January at the earliest. How on earth the manager thought we could get through the season with Rose and McNally as the other 2 options at CB (Wilmot is a first choice) I have not a feckin clue. All good sides are built from the back, we’ve had an opportunity to bring 18 players in this season and we’ve ended up with these two? On top of that we didn’t use Connor Taylor last year to develop him, and then got rid of him. He was at least more of a physical presence than Rose, who looks the worst of the bunch. I am hoping we can turn things around through this next run of games in October but i have serious doubts because we are awful at the back. I think this is what will rightly end up costing AN his job. Just hoping we can get enough points before Jan so we don’t cut ourselves adrift. By the way, AN gambled on the CB’s in January too, sold Souttar and brought in Tuanzebe who was injured most of the time. We got lucky that the 40 year old Jagielka managed to hold it together. So, he has previous. |
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 17, 2024 13:40:55 GMT
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Aug 17, 2024 13:41:43 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2024 13:41:43 GMT
Oh no. Jared Vs Darnbrough. Ouch. 😬 |
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Aug 17, 2024 13:42:49 GMT
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Post by thornestein on Aug 17, 2024 13:42:49 GMT
was told something similar in the week but off someone not so reliable 🤔 |
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Aug 17, 2024 13:43:39 GMT
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Post by upthefud on Aug 17, 2024 13:43:39 GMT
What makes a move daring? Are they implying we will be openly hostile to a polite enquiry? Will there be casualties? |
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Post by GeneralFaye on Aug 17, 2024 13:45:49 GMT
As long as we get 2 cbs in, yeah, go on then.
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Aug 17, 2024 13:47:01 GMT
Post by Jimm on Aug 17, 2024 13:47:01 GMT
IF he was sold, I could see the money going straight on McNally as his replacement, so probably better off keeping Wilmot
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Aug 17, 2024 13:47:42 GMT
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Post by J-Roar on Aug 17, 2024 13:47:42 GMT
What makes a move daring? Are they implying we will be openly hostile to a polite enquiry? Will there be casualties? Masked men are going to bundle him into the back of a transit, blindfold him and take him to the moors until he agrees to sign. |
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Aug 17, 2024 13:47:46 GMT
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Post by tommystoke123 on Aug 17, 2024 13:47:46 GMT
Would we make a profit on him?
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Aug 17, 2024 13:48:23 GMT
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Post by prettything on Aug 17, 2024 13:48:23 GMT
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Aug 17, 2024 13:53:35 GMT
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Post by tommystoke123 on Aug 17, 2024 13:53:35 GMT
3-5 mil imo, signed a new contract not so long , young-ish and Hull have a bit of cash to spend
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Aug 17, 2024 13:55:30 GMT
Post by LDE76 on Aug 17, 2024 13:55:30 GMT
What makes a move daring? Are they implying we will be openly hostile to a polite enquiry? Will there be casualties? Like the bin Laden operation but without the killing. When the authorities arrive in the morning, all they'll find is an open window and a card with the message "You've been mauled by the Tigers". |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 17, 2024 14:01:24 GMT
Can't see it happening, as much as I don't particularly rate him we're too light in the CB department to let him go.
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