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Post by chuckrocky on Sept 26, 2023 19:57:43 GMT
His part in Hull’s first goal wasn’t even his worst mistake on Sunday. His blind pass across our penalty area straight to a Hull player just sums him up for me.
He’s incapable of getting through a game without making at least one catastrophic error.
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Sept 26, 2023 19:59:13 GMT
Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 26, 2023 19:59:13 GMT
His part in Hull’s first goal wasn’t even his worst mistake on Sunday. His blind pass across our penalty area straight to a Hull player just sums him up for me. He’s incapable of getting through a game without making at least one catastrophic error. But the stats man, won't you think of the stats! |
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Post by numpty40 on Sept 26, 2023 20:06:00 GMT
Wilmot is clearly the only defender at the club that is actually a footballer.
That's why he is sacrificed every week on the left while we suffer the incompetent McNally and Rose on the right.
It's clear as day and I'm actually reassured that some regulars on here don't see that..
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Sept 26, 2023 20:06:28 GMT
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 26, 2023 20:06:28 GMT
He wouldn’t have let that bounce of it was on the right in my opinion. And tbh I respect your opinion to disagree He still could have dealt with it even with the bounce but if not, just head it maybe. I know I'm in the minority and most actually think he's a good player, I just don't see it. Fair enough mate |
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Post by roylandstoke on Sept 26, 2023 20:07:17 GMT
He’s one of several players who aren’t performing up to their true level because our manager seems unable to play them in a position that suits their skill set.
We have an unbalanced squad that has only one left sided defender.
Too many square pegs in round holes.
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Sept 26, 2023 20:12:39 GMT
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Post by HarryTheHat on Sept 26, 2023 20:12:39 GMT
He’s awful and has been since he got here. Alls this proves is that stats aren’t worth shit. The first goal sums him up. Well he's no Verlinden, I'll give you that |
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Sept 26, 2023 20:16:21 GMT
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Post by Simon Drainrod on Sept 26, 2023 20:16:21 GMT
I'd rather have James Chester playing over him at this point. We haven't got one solid/dependable defender on our books. Bollocks mate. Nobody tops Chesters. |
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Sept 26, 2023 20:19:19 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 26, 2023 20:19:19 GMT
He’s awful and has been since he got here. Alls this proves is that stats aren’t worth shit. The first goal sums him up. Well he's no Verlinden, I'll give you that Verlinden is the better centre half for sure. |
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Sept 26, 2023 20:20:52 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2023 20:20:52 GMT
He’s one of several players who aren’t performing up to their true level because our manager seems unable to play them in a position that suits their skill set. We have an unbalanced squad that has only one left sided defender. Too many square pegs in round holes. If you play a back four you only need one left footer. Many of the great CB pairings have been both right footers. These are highly paid pros. Their left foot should be more than just for standing on. Some very good LBs have also been right footed. Paulo Maldini wasn't too shabby. |
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Sept 26, 2023 20:20:56 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 26, 2023 20:20:56 GMT
Wilmot is clearly the only defender at the club that is actually a footballer. That's why he is sacrificed every week on the left while we suffer the incompetent McNally and Rose on the right. It's clear as day and I'm actually reassured that some regulars on here don't see that.. Yet in his time here we’ve generally been shambolic at the back despite having the second coming of Beckenbauer. He was back up at Watford for a reason. That’s alls he should be here. |
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Sept 26, 2023 20:28:14 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2023 20:28:14 GMT
Is jagielka still available?
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Sept 26, 2023 20:28:27 GMT
Post by numpty40 on Sept 26, 2023 20:28:27 GMT
Wilmot is clearly the only defender at the club that is actually a footballer. That's why he is sacrificed every week on the left while we suffer the incompetent McNally and Rose on the right. It's clear as day and I'm actually reassured that some regulars on here don't see that.. Yet in his time here we’ve generally been shambolic at the back despite having the second coming of Beckenbauer. He was back up at Watford for a reason. That’s alls he should be here. Name me a better centre back since relegation. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 26, 2023 20:31:23 GMT
Yet in his time here we’ve generally been shambolic at the back despite having the second coming of Beckenbauer. He was back up at Watford for a reason. That’s alls he should be here. Name me a better centre back since relegation. That’s not how to judge it ffs. Comparing shit to shit. |
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Sept 26, 2023 20:32:49 GMT
Post by numpty40 on Sept 26, 2023 20:32:49 GMT
Name me a better centre back since relegation. That’s not how to judge it ffs. Comparing shit to shit. You think Souttar was equally shit? |
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Sept 26, 2023 20:37:45 GMT
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Sept 26, 2023 20:37:45 GMT
Last season & this, the defence have been crap, Wilmot is the only defender who played last season and this, he is the common denominator.
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Sept 26, 2023 20:38:23 GMT
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Post by tommycarlsberg on Sept 26, 2023 20:38:23 GMT
I’ve made my feelings on him often before so won’t stick the boot in for the sake of it, though there’s only one stat Ben Wilmot needs to worry about and that’s the Goals Against number next to Stoke City.
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Sept 26, 2023 20:39:43 GMT
Post by numpty40 on Sept 26, 2023 20:39:43 GMT
Last season & this, the defence have been crap, Wilmot is the only defender who played last season and this, he is the common denominator. He could be the common denominator why we've managed to stay in this league? |
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Sept 26, 2023 20:40:44 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 26, 2023 20:40:44 GMT
That’s not how to judge it ffs. Comparing shit to shit. You think Souttar was equally shit? Souttar was miles better as was Collins. But you don’t compare them to crap. Oh he’s less crap than these so that’s fine. It’s exactly why we are where we are. I wouldn’t want Souttar back as it happens. |
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Sept 26, 2023 20:41:51 GMT
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Post by willieeetmiout on Sept 26, 2023 20:41:51 GMT
He’s awful and has been since he got here. Alls this proves is that stats aren’t worth shit. The first goal sums him up. I don't like Wilmot but for balance this is why I cant cope Ben Wilmot ratings this season: Stoke 4-1 Rotherham, 8.8 Stoke 2-1 West Brom, 7.5 Ipswich 2-0 Stoke, 7.5 Stoke 1-0 Watford, 7.6 Millwall 1-0 Stoke, 7.2 Stoke 6-1 Rotherham, 6.8 (58 MP) Stoke 0-2 Preston, 7.1 Norwich 1-0 Stoke, 7.4 Huddersfield 2-2 Stoke, 7.5 7.9.23 Championship Assists Leaders Morgan Whittaker (3) Charlie Patino (3) Ryan Manning (2) Ben Wilmot (2) Duane Holmes (2) Outfielders who have completed the most long passes in the Championship: 1️⃣ Ben Wilmot - 51 2️⃣ Dom Hyam - 40 3️⃣ Wesley Hoedt - 39 4️⃣ Callum Doyle - 26 5️⃣ Kyle McFadzean - 24 ➡️ Semi Ajayi - 24 7️⃣ Zak Vyner - 23 Sam Morsy (2) Samuel Silvera (2) Gabriel (2) Mark Sykes (2) Jean Seri (2) Aerial duels won 1. Ben Wilmot 30 2. Jordan Hugill 25 3. Jordan Storey 24 4. Darren Lenihan 24 5. Kevin Long 24 |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 26, 2023 20:46:12 GMT
He’s awful and has been since he got here. Alls this proves is that stats aren’t worth shit. The first goal sums him up. I don't like Wilmot but for balance this is why I cant cope Ben Wilmot ratings this season: Stoke 4-1 Rotherham, 8.8 Stoke 2-1 West Brom, 7.5 Ipswich 2-0 Stoke, 7.5 Stoke 1-0 Watford, 7.6 Millwall 1-0 Stoke, 7.2 Stoke 6-1 Rotherham, 6.8 (58 MP) Stoke 0-2 Preston, 7.1 Norwich 1-0 Stoke, 7.4 Huddersfield 2-2 Stoke, 7.5 7.9.23 Championship Assists Leaders Morgan Whittaker (3) Charlie Patino (3) Ryan Manning (2) Ben Wilmot (2) Duane Holmes (2) Outfielders who have completed the most long passes in the Championship: 1️⃣ Ben Wilmot - 51 2️⃣ Dom Hyam - 40 3️⃣ Wesley Hoedt - 39 4️⃣ Callum Doyle - 26 5️⃣ Kyle McFadzean - 24 ➡️ Semi Ajayi - 24 7️⃣ Zak Vyner - 23 Sam Morsy (2) Samuel Silvera (2) Gabriel (2) Mark Sykes (2) Jean Seri (2) Aerial duels won 1. Ben Wilmot 30 2. Jordan Hugill 25 3. Jordan Storey 24 4. Darren Lenihan 24 5. Kevin Long 24 And he’s still looked like a clown generally making really bad mistakes and being at the heart of a really bad defence. You’re just proving my point! |
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Post by numpty40 on Sept 26, 2023 20:49:08 GMT
You think Souttar was equally shit? Souttar was miles better as was Collins. But you don’t compare them to crap. Oh he’s less crap than these so that’s fine. It’s exactly why we are where we are. I wouldn’t want Souttar back as it happens. You build around your strongest block, Souttar was, Collins was and now Wilmot is and we just hang him out to dry on the left while accommodating weak as fuck alternatives on the right. |
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Sept 26, 2023 20:51:36 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 26, 2023 20:51:36 GMT
Souttar was miles better as was Collins. But you don’t compare them to crap. Oh he’s less crap than these so that’s fine. It’s exactly why we are where we are. I wouldn’t want Souttar back as it happens. You build around your strongest block, Souttar was, Collins was and now Wilmot is and we just hang him out to dry on the left while accommodating weak as fuck alternatives on the right. Hang him out to dry 🤣 He’s been crap wherever he’s played for us. |
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Sept 26, 2023 20:52:48 GMT
Post by numpty40 on Sept 26, 2023 20:52:48 GMT
He’s awful and has been since he got here. Alls this proves is that stats aren’t worth shit. The first goal sums him up. I don't like Wilmot but for balance this is why I cant cope Ben Wilmot ratings this season: Stoke 4-1 Rotherham, 8.8 Stoke 2-1 West Brom, 7.5 Ipswich 2-0 Stoke, 7.5 Stoke 1-0 Watford, 7.6 Millwall 1-0 Stoke, 7.2 Stoke 6-1 Rotherham, 6.8 (58 MP) Stoke 0-2 Preston, 7.1 Norwich 1-0 Stoke, 7.4 Huddersfield 2-2 Stoke, 7.5 7.9.23 Championship Assists Leaders Morgan Whittaker (3) Charlie Patino (3) Ryan Manning (2) Ben Wilmot (2) Duane Holmes (2) Outfielders who have completed the most long passes in the Championship: 1️⃣ Ben Wilmot - 51 2️⃣ Dom Hyam - 40 3️⃣ Wesley Hoedt - 39 4️⃣ Callum Doyle - 26 5️⃣ Kyle McFadzean - 24 ➡️ Semi Ajayi - 24 7️⃣ Zak Vyner - 23 Sam Morsy (2) Samuel Silvera (2) Gabriel (2) Mark Sykes (2) Jean Seri (2) Aerial duels won 1. Ben Wilmot 30 2. Jordan Hugill 25 3. Jordan Storey 24 4. Darren Lenihan 24 5. Kevin Long 24 You're wasting you time mate, people on here want a lummox of a centre back to head it and clear it as far as humanly possible. |
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Sept 26, 2023 20:53:28 GMT
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Post by vidigal7 on Sept 26, 2023 20:53:28 GMT
Attacking wise Two assists and a goal for Ben so far this season, seems to be a threat in both boxes haha.
In all seriousness though, when we signed Wilmott I'm sure it was said he can do a job in Defensive midfield if needed.
Considering we're like a sieve at the back and in need of a left footer and a more cohesive pairing would it be worth (Until January) giving Burger a run at left centre back alongside Rose or Mcnally and Wilmott in a defensive mid role?
We Should have Baker coming back soon aswell that could fill in for Burger centre mid
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Sept 26, 2023 20:53:53 GMT
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Sept 26, 2023 20:53:53 GMT
Probably because he's a good player!!! Is he? Each to their own I guess!!! |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 26, 2023 20:54:31 GMT
You build around your strongest block, Souttar was, Collins was and now Wilmot is and we just hang him out to dry on the left while accommodating weak as fuck alternatives on the right. Hang him out to dry 🤣 He’s been crap wherever he’s played for us. He’s a scapegoat. He’s much better on the right. The manager is an idiot |
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Sept 26, 2023 20:59:41 GMT
Post by numpty40 on Sept 26, 2023 20:59:41 GMT
Hang him out to dry 🤣 He’s been crap wherever he’s played for us. He’s a scapegoat. He’s much better on the right. The manager is an idiot Bayern tends to be a little kneejerk in his reaction to things  |
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Sept 26, 2023 20:59:44 GMT
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Post by Gary Hackett on Sept 26, 2023 20:59:44 GMT
Attacking wise Two assists and a goal for Ben so far this season, seems to be a threat in both boxes haha. In all seriousness though, when we signed Wilmott I'm sure it was said he can do a job in Defensive midfield if needed. Considering we're like a sieve at the back and in need of a left footer and a more cohesive pairing would it be worth (Until January) giving Burger a run at left centre back alongside Rose or Mcnally and Wilmott in a defensive mid role? We Should have Baker coming back soon aswell that could fill in for Burger centre mid I've seen nothing from to Burger to suggest he's a defender. |
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Sept 26, 2023 21:01:48 GMT
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Post by vidigal7 on Sept 26, 2023 21:01:48 GMT
Attacking wise Two assists and a goal for Ben so far this season, seems to be a threat in both boxes haha. In all seriousness though, when we signed Wilmott I'm sure it was said he can do a job in Defensive midfield if needed. Considering we're like a sieve at the back and in need of a left footer and a more cohesive pairing would it be worth (Until January) giving Burger a run at left centre back alongside Rose or Mcnally and Wilmott in a defensive mid role? We Should have Baker coming back soon aswell that could fill in for Burger centre mid I've seen nothing from to Burger to suggest he's a defender. No neither have I but we havn't seen him there and neither Wilmott in Defensive mid for that matter. We were told both could do both I ve had this conversation a few times, I've always thought Ben would make a decent defensive mid. |
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Sept 26, 2023 21:04:27 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 26, 2023 21:04:27 GMT
Hang him out to dry 🤣 He’s been crap wherever he’s played for us. He’s a scapegoat. He’s much better on the right. The manager is an idiot Scapegoat my backside. He was crap last season doing the same things he’s doing this season. |
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