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Post by Fred Merger on Aug 28, 2023 10:36:20 GMT
Reports that he is close to fitness and may well move on before the end of the window. If true who do you think would take him on and for what fee. As anything we made on him would be a profit after signing him when he was out of contract. I believe he has another 2 years with us doesn't he?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 28, 2023 10:38:31 GMT
I hope he stays ahead of Laurent.
Ideally we can sell both and get Onomah in for free.
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Post by Fred Merger on Aug 28, 2023 10:41:49 GMT
I'd be fine with that
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Post by somersetstokie on Aug 28, 2023 10:43:23 GMT
Another bargain for Luton at 5 million pounds!
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Post by fullmetaljacket on Aug 28, 2023 10:52:44 GMT
Baker can go for me.
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Post by chell_rosey on Aug 28, 2023 10:57:55 GMT
Another bargain for Luton at 5 million pounds! 4, if they really push us...
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Post by y_oh_y_delilah on Aug 30, 2023 17:19:51 GMT
Personally, I’d much prefer to talk some sense into Mr Baker and keep him. There’s a really excellent player in there as we have seen many times in the past. A fully fit and focused Baker can only be a good thing surely.
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Post by leicspotter on Aug 30, 2023 17:23:37 GMT
Personally, I’d much prefer to talk some sense into Mr Baker and keep him. There’s a really excellent player in there as we have seen many times in the past. A fully fit and focused Baker can only be a good thing surely. I tend to agree with you and in a better team (like we have now) he may well flourish
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Post by nonameface on Aug 30, 2023 17:39:14 GMT
Personally, I’d much prefer to talk some sense into Mr Baker and keep him. There’s a really excellent player in there as we have seen many times in the past. A fully fit and focused Baker can only be a good thing surely. If we start to camp outside teams boxes more then he would be a very useful player to spank the ball in the back of the net from distance, although having seen Laurent and Burgers goals it looks like we may already have enough of that in the team. But it doesn't even come down to that now does it? He's burned his bridges and needs to go.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2023 17:40:23 GMT
Have Baker feed off Wesley’s ability to hold up the ball in the opposition third. He’d be our top scoring midfielder by some distance.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Aug 30, 2023 18:03:22 GMT
Personally, I’d much prefer to talk some sense into Mr Baker and keep him. There’s a really excellent player in there as we have seen many times in the past. A fully fit and focused Baker can only be a good thing surely. If he doesn't assist or score he is totally anonymous as he was in nearly every game last season.
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Post by y_oh_y_delilah on Aug 30, 2023 18:25:30 GMT
Personally, I’d much prefer to talk some sense into Mr Baker and keep him. There’s a really excellent player in there as we have seen many times in the past. A fully fit and focused Baker can only be a good thing surely. If he doesn't assist or score he is totally anonymous as he was in nearly every game last season. Agree but he’s a brilliant footballer who did lose his way last season. I just think we’d be better off working with him to bring out his best rather than just scrapheaping him.. A fit, firing and focused Lewis Baker still has the potential to be our best player IMO.
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Aug 30, 2023 18:34:39 GMT
Personally, I’d much prefer to talk some sense into Mr Baker and keep him. There’s a really excellent player in there as we have seen many times in the past. A fully fit and focused Baker can only be a good thing surely. If we start to camp outside teams boxes more then he would be a very useful player to spank the ball in the back of the net from distance, although having seen Laurent and Burgers goals it looks like we may already have enough of that in the team. But it doesn't even come down to that now does it? He's burned his bridges and needs to go. I must of missed something. What's he done to have burnt his bridges.
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Post by drippinggoatsnob on Aug 30, 2023 18:40:31 GMT
If we start to camp outside teams boxes more then he would be a very useful player to spank the ball in the back of the net from distance, although having seen Laurent and Burgers goals it looks like we may already have enough of that in the team. But it doesn't even come down to that now does it? He's burned his bridges and needs to go. I must of missed something. What's he done to have burnt his bridges. He has definitely clashed with the manager. It will take a lot to change to see him in the stoke starting 11 again.
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Post by scarlet on Aug 30, 2023 21:17:02 GMT
I thought he was excellent initially then seemed to lose form last season, along with a few others. I think he's worth keeping and would score goals in our current set up. Not captain material though, and maybe being made captain contributed to his loss of form?
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Post by st3mark on Aug 30, 2023 21:38:01 GMT
I thought he was excellent initially then seemed to lose form last season, along with a few others. I think he's worth keeping and would score goals in our current set up. Not captain material though, and maybe being made captain contributed to his loss of form? If we kept him I don't think he would ever get back in the side. Best for us and him if he moves on I'd say.
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Post by norters on Aug 30, 2023 21:57:41 GMT
I think he’s already disconnected from Project Neil.. shame cos he absolutely has the talent.. I think the desire has been blunted by all those high earning years on a Chelski contract.. as I said.. a real shame .. that he might regret in later years..
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Post by idle on Aug 31, 2023 6:14:49 GMT
Let him go. Our midfield can easily handle his departure, and his playing style isn't suited for ANs IMO. As for Laurent, at least he's good every 5-6 games. Baker just isn't any good and haven't been for a long time.
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Post by stokiemarc on Aug 31, 2023 8:18:41 GMT
Baker was the shining light of that dire season a couple of years back but last season you could see his physical limitations. He just doesn't run hard enough to be in an AN midfield. Because we have depth now in that area, if you don't run, you aren't getting a game, even with BP at the start of this season, AN obviously didn't like the state of BP so benched him for a few games, which is good management and shows everyone else that even his most loyal/favourite players aren't immune.
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Post by Pugsley on Aug 31, 2023 8:21:32 GMT
Personally, I’d much prefer to talk some sense into Mr Baker and keep him. There’s a really excellent player in there as we have seen many times in the past. A fully fit and focused Baker can only be a good thing surely. This is true but he won't listen. There is a reason he's had so many clubs in a short career. Starts well, then tosses it off.
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Post by themistocles on Aug 31, 2023 8:22:22 GMT
Failed at every club. Dogshit attitude. Big earner. Move him on.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2023 8:26:11 GMT
I don't think he's got the desire or engine for AN's liking.
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Post by shakermaker on Aug 31, 2023 8:35:06 GMT
Failed at every club. Dogshit attitude. Big earner. Move him on. That isn’t true. He was one of Sparta Rotterdam’s best players for two seasons, and did very well in Turkey as well. Notwithstanding his first impressive season for us. There’s a player in there but Burger and Pearson are clearly in front of him now and he’s little more than a bench option now or one for the Cup games. If we can get £2M, let him go.
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Post by stokest5 on Aug 31, 2023 8:45:52 GMT
Failed at every club. Dogshit attitude. Big earner. Move him on. That isn’t true. He was one of Sparta Rotterdam’s best players for two seasons, and did very well in Turkey as well. Notwithstanding his first impressive season for us. There’s a player in there but Burger and Pearson are clearly in front of him now and he’s little more than a bench option now or one for the Cup games. If we can get £2M, let him go. He’s never even played for Sparta Rotterdam and if he did very well in Turkey then why was he not signed by someone. On his day he chips in with assists and goals but he doesn’t have his day often enough. 8-9 loans isn’t a good sign seems he only try’s when he wants too and that’s not good enough.
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Post by shakermaker on Aug 31, 2023 8:50:15 GMT
That isn’t true. He was one of Sparta Rotterdam’s best players for two seasons, and did very well in Turkey as well. Notwithstanding his first impressive season for us. There’s a player in there but Burger and Pearson are clearly in front of him now and he’s little more than a bench option now or one for the Cup games. If we can get £2M, let him go. He’s never even played for Sparta Rotterdam and if he did very well in Turkey then why was he not signed by someone. On his day he chips in with assists and goals but he doesn’t have his day often enough. 8-9 loans isn’t a good sign seems he only try’s when he wants too and that’s not good enough. Aaagh, not Sparta - I meant Vitesse Arnhem! And his performances in Turkey did earn him a move. To us!
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Post by stokest5 on Aug 31, 2023 9:07:17 GMT
He’s never even played for Sparta Rotterdam and if he did very well in Turkey then why was he not signed by someone. On his day he chips in with assists and goals but he doesn’t have his day often enough. 8-9 loans isn’t a good sign seems he only try’s when he wants too and that’s not good enough. Aaagh, not Sparta - I meant Vitesse Arnhem! And his performances in Turkey did earn him a move. To us! He played his last game for the Turkish club in July and didn’t sign for us until January! If you move the goalposts for him enough you just might get a goal.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2023 9:36:05 GMT
Impossible to prove , but my intuition is he has an attitude problem .
In a kick about down the park with your mates , he would look quality .
Against hard, physical, ruthless teams in the championship , he is not always at it .
When we need a Johnny Eustace type player , who is quality on the ball and relishes the physical side of the game , then he is not that player .
Burger might be that player ? Pearson might be ? But not Baker
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2023 9:47:23 GMT
Failed at every club. Dogshit attitude. Big earner. Move him on. You’re just making things up regarding his attitude now. Sad.
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Post by coldtuesdaynight on Aug 31, 2023 9:47:49 GMT
I just think he’s one of those players that suits a certain style of play. Unfortunately that style was O’Neill’s and nearly all of us hated it by the end.
Trying to predict Neill’s long term 11, I can’t see how he’d fit in over Berger (based on very early impressions obviously) or Pearson (or Laurent even). And is he really a better attacking midfielder than Johnson or one of the newer players who will probably be given more game time there as the season progresses?
Players like this are the main reason we need to hope the managerial appointments are also going to improve under this new regime. Hopefully they’ll at least ask the next manager what their preferred formation is before they appoint a 3-5-2 merchant to manage a squad with several wingers.
Imagine if they’d asked Rowett whether he was happy with the millions of midfielders we already had at the club before giving him free reign over our transfer dealings…
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Aug 31, 2023 9:50:52 GMT
I just think he’s one of those players that suits a certain style of play. Unfortunately that style was O’Neill’s and nearly all of us hated it by the end. Trying to predict Neill’s long term 11, I can’t see how he’d fit in over Berger (based on very early impressions obviously) or Pearson (or Laurent even). And is he really a better attacking midfielder than Johnson or one of the newer players who will probably be given more game time there as the season progresses? Players like this are the main reason we need to hope the managerial appointments are also going to improve under this new regime. Hopefully they’ll at least ask the next manager what their preferred formation is before they appoint a 3-5-2 merchant to manage a squad with several wingers. Imagine if they’d asked Rowett whether he was happy with the millions of midfielders we already had at the club before giving him free reign over our transfer dealings… I tend to agree, although he's much better than Thompson.And he's still at the club (as of writing)
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