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Post by Timmy on Sept 22, 2023 11:30:14 GMT
Is baker still injured or just out of favour? he had an op on his knee?
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Post by gawa on Sept 22, 2023 11:32:35 GMT
Is baker still injured or just out of favour? he had an op on his knee? Not too sure that's why I was asking. Still think there's a decent player in there and was one of the best players in the championship for second half of 21/22 season. Considering our inability to consistently score goals this season - wouldn't mind seeing Baker get a run out again with a few minutes here and there. At least we know he has goals in him when fit and not playing through injuries.
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Post by shakermaker on Sept 22, 2023 11:36:28 GMT
he had an op on his knee? Not too sure that's why I was asking. Still think there's a decent player in there and was one of the best players in the championship for second half of 21/22 season. Considering our inability to consistently score goals this season - wouldn't mind seeing Baker get a run out again with a few minutes here and there. At least we know he has goals in him when fit and not playing through injuries. The form Laurent is in, you'd think even Baker would be ahead of him. At least Baker is more of a goal threat when he makes those runs forward. And isn't Lewis still first-choice skipper? I think Josh only has the armband now because Lewis is currently out of action.
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Post by Championship Potter on Sept 22, 2023 11:41:51 GMT
Not too sure that's why I was asking. Still think there's a decent player in there and was one of the best players in the championship for second half of 21/22 season. Considering our inability to consistently score goals this season - wouldn't mind seeing Baker get a run out again with a few minutes here and there. At least we know he has goals in him when fit and not playing through injuries. The form Laurent is in, you'd think even Baker would be ahead of him. At least Baker is more of a goal threat when he makes those runs forward. And isn't Lewis still first-choice skipper? I think Josh only has the armband now because Lewis is currently out of action. I’d be interested to see what Baker could do in this setup. Laurent’s form is pretty bad and this 3 man midfield doesn’t appear to suit his game. Baker is generally better at getting in the box, getting shots off and playing forward balls. Just can’t see it happening though - Laurent is the captain and Neil won’t drop him without a further deterioration in form, and we have plenty of other options eg Johnson, Junho, Sidibe.
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Post by callas12 on Sept 22, 2023 11:42:27 GMT
Baker could still play an important role when he returns to fitness
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Post by femark on Sept 22, 2023 11:51:09 GMT
You would think that the current set up and group of players would suit him quite well. It all depends on where his head is at and if he can push on and find his form again.
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Post by Block 26 on Sept 22, 2023 12:20:45 GMT
I never understood why we pushed him further back last season, that’s when he went downhill. Play him behind the strikers & at the edge of the box on set pieces as we know he can score from that position.
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Post by thornestein on Sept 23, 2023 13:47:42 GMT
Baker could still play an important role when he returns to fitness of course , we always need someone sweep the changing rooms out
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Post by mtrstudent on Sept 23, 2023 14:03:23 GMT
I never understood why we pushed him further back last season, that’s when he went downhill. Play him behind the strikers & at the edge of the box on set pieces as we know he can score from that position. Makes the recruitment interesting, can't see how you get an attacking Baker in the same midfield as Johnson or Bae. But yeah he's always a goal threat in that position.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Sept 23, 2023 14:19:58 GMT
Baker could still play an important role when he returns to fitness of course , we always need someone sweep the changing rooms out The current cleaning team are struggling to gel
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Post by TinkerT on Sept 23, 2023 14:21:59 GMT
He's still a better option than laurent Thompson Johnson and on current showing burger (although I expect him grown into some player once upto the strength of championship football) we still struggle for goals from anyone and if there's one thing Baker did offer it was a goal threat. Has to play once fully back up to speed for me, but can't see Alex dropping laurent
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Post by thornestein on Sept 23, 2023 14:25:18 GMT
He's still a better option than laurent Thompson Johnson and on current showing burger (although I expect him grown into some player once upto the strength of championship football) we still struggle for goals from anyone and if there's one thing Baker did offer it was a goal threat. Has to play once fully back up to speed for me, but can't see Alex dropping laurent did you watch him last season, he was woeful , his goals have always masked his shit performance
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Post by TinkerT on Sept 23, 2023 14:29:18 GMT
He's still a better option than laurent Thompson Johnson and on current showing burger (although I expect him grown into some player once upto the strength of championship football) we still struggle for goals from anyone and if there's one thing Baker did offer it was a goal threat. Has to play once fully back up to speed for me, but can't see Alex dropping laurent did you watch him last season, he was woeful , his goals have always masked his shit performance How's he supposed to.score goals when asked to sit holding the midfield? I'd rather him.bang in goals and "mask shit performances" than the likes of Johnson or laurent who score 1 in every 23732 games. We need goals as we don't have strikers who can score.
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Post by thornestein on Sept 23, 2023 14:35:23 GMT
did you watch him last season, he was woeful , his goals have always masked his shit performance How's he supposed to.score goals when asked to sit holding the midfield? I'd rather him.bang in goals and "mask shit performances" than the likes of Johnson or laurent who score 1 in every 23732 games. We need goals as we don't have strikers who can score. he couldn’t do that either , poor player , we have better now ( agree Laurent is shit as well )
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Post by logdog on Sept 23, 2023 14:57:05 GMT
Pretty sure Lewis Baker isn’t the answer to any of our problems. As said above, his goals masked his limitations in his early days here. I always thought it was suspicious that he had been on Chelsea’s books all that time without getting near the first team. He also had millions of loan spells all over the place & no one ever took up the option on him. Now we know why. Classic case of lousy player becoming much better due to his prolonged absence from the team. Another Stoke midfielder destined for Turkey I reckon…
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Post by WorkingclassHero on Sept 24, 2023 9:21:56 GMT
Just wow Seems by not playing you can become the messiah. First Mmae anfmd now Baker. Honestly we are @@@ ed.
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Post by sportsman on Sept 24, 2023 9:31:09 GMT
Just wow Seems by not playing you can become the messiah. First Mmae anfmd now Baker. Honestly we are @@@ ed. How many games has mmae played for us? New country, new team mates. Bloody hell, tough crowd. Wasn't AN praising how well he looked in training? Still it is a stoke crowd.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Sept 24, 2023 9:40:23 GMT
Just wow Seems by not playing you can become the messiah. First Mmae anfmd now Baker. Honestly we are @@@ ed. How many games has mmae played for us? New country, new team mates. Bloody hell, tough crowd. Wasn't AN praising how well he looked in training? Still it is a stoke crowd. No one called him the Messiah in any sense but he scored 16 goals for us and now we just talk a good goal after most games
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Oct 22, 2023 16:11:52 GMT
Serious question Has anyone seen him of late? He never ever arrives to watch games like a lot of injured players do🤔surely must be nearing some kind of comeback
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Post by collo68 on Oct 22, 2023 16:15:46 GMT
Serious question Has anyone seen him of late? He never ever arrives to watch games like a lot of injured players do🤔surely must be nearing some kind of comeback Seems very strange doesn’t it. Wonder if it’s something else rather than an injury
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Post by gingerninja on Oct 22, 2023 16:18:03 GMT
I thought I saw him in one of the videos promoting the community trust day, I think he was ball juggling possibly?.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 22, 2023 16:19:14 GMT
A much better option than Laurent.
We need him back asap.
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Post by thornestein on Oct 22, 2023 16:23:08 GMT
A much better option than Laurent. We need him back asap. he’s been mostly shit though , his goals masked his piss poor performance
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 22, 2023 16:24:05 GMT
A much better option than Laurent. We need him back asap. he’s been mostly shit though , his goals masked his piss poor performance I think he was injured for a lot of last season but was fine the season before. And even then he was much better than Laurent.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Oct 22, 2023 16:25:01 GMT
A much better option than Laurent. We need him back asap. He's no better than Laurent.
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Post by numpty40 on Oct 22, 2023 16:25:47 GMT
A much better option than Laurent. We need him back asap. We really don't🙂
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Post by TinkerT on Oct 22, 2023 16:34:59 GMT
he’s been mostly shit though , his goals masked his piss poor performance I think he was injured for a lot of last season but was fine the season before. And even then he was much better than Laurent. People complaining about a player scoring goals from a club with 0 players scoring above 15 in the last how many years... only at Stoke.
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Post by gingerninja on Oct 22, 2023 16:45:26 GMT
If his head is in the right place, absolutely, the Laurent position for sure, sadly I think both won't be here beyond the next window.
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Post by yellowsnowman on Oct 22, 2023 16:55:57 GMT
Id give him ago for sure he cannot be much worse then laurent, pearson, burger, johnson, thompson.
Neil needs to start junho as CAM and needs to stop playing johnson or any other CM for that matter there as its not there natural position. Another player he needed to sign in the summer to give junho good competition. But didnt.
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Post by lordb on Oct 22, 2023 17:40:28 GMT
Id give him ago for sure he cannot be much worse then laurent, pearson, burger, johnson, thompson. Neil needs to start junho as CAM and needs to stop playing johnson or any other CM for that matter there as its not there natural position. Another player he needed to sign in the summer to give junho good competition. But didnt. Haksabanovic and Junho should be the primary options for that central attacking midfield role
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