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Post by itsmorethanagame on Aug 19, 2023 13:16:36 GMT
It’s clear he doesn’t trust Chiquino or Mmaee on the right wing ahead of Hoever.
Slightly concerning
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2023 13:17:04 GMT
Any chance this is a 4-3-3 with Wilmot at RB and Hoever on the right of the front three? Good shout. Let's hope it's that rather than the back 5. Wouldn't be ideal with Hoever as a winger though. |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 19, 2023 13:18:51 GMT
Wing backs and no Tymon? Guy was most creative wing back in the league by all statistics..? Didn't Stevens get promoted playing wingback? |
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Post by mickstupp on Aug 19, 2023 13:19:16 GMT
Any chance this is a 4-3-3 with Wilmot at RB and Hoever on the right of the front three? Gallagher just confirmed on the radio it’s a change of shape and it’s 3/5 at the back. Very negative in my opinion. |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 19, 2023 13:19:58 GMT
It's a surprise but let's see if it actually works before slagging it off, it's good we have a squad capable of adapting.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Aug 19, 2023 13:20:05 GMT
Disappointing obviously but we looked so slow at the back against Ipswich and these are very quick. Not a surprise to me. How about we get on the front foot and give them something to think about. This formation won’t do that. They’ll be thinking they can put their feet up. One of Thompsons biggest issues is his inhability to move the ball forwards quickly everything goes back with him. The selection will sap the positivity from the crowd unless we get an early goal. Very true but we failed to do that at all last week. Was just lazy lay offs from Pearson, often to the opposition. With all the players we've signed, we still don't have that player. |
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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on Aug 19, 2023 13:20:18 GMT
We're going 5-3-2 then, so why not play Tymon (a left wing-back) at left wing-back, instead of a left full-back??? Don't start with the square pegs already Neil!!! Stevens has been a wingback for most of his career but don't let facts get in the way. That may be the case but he’s lost a lot of his pace so is more suited to being a fullback now. |
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Post by stokiemac on Aug 19, 2023 13:20:40 GMT
Any chance this is a 4-3-3 with Wilmot at RB and Hoever on the right of the front three? I'm going to tell myself this until kick off so I don't get sad |
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Post by stokiejoe89 on Aug 19, 2023 13:21:32 GMT
How about we give it a chance before we instantly label it a failure? In this league you have to be able to mix it up and have different tactical options.
Thompson was very good against WBA, Pearson was shocking against Ipswich. Kick up the arse for Pearson.
People once again showing they know sod all by claiming we're playing a left back at left wing back when Stevens has played left wing back for most of his time at Sheff Utd.
Give it a chance
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Post by newyorkpotter2 on Aug 19, 2023 13:21:45 GMT
Surely with Hoever's threat there is an attacking thrust to all this, even if it is a "five" at the back.
It plays into the notion of a 3-5-2.
Intriguing if it's 4-3-3.
Thompson over Pearson is a conundrum of course but you have to trust the manager on this one.
I'm absolutely delighted to see McNally in here. That's going to steady things up, surely.
Come on Stoke!!!!
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Post by stokiejoe89 on Aug 19, 2023 13:22:47 GMT
Any chance this is a 4-3-3 with Wilmot at RB and Hoever on the right of the front three? Gallagher just confirmed on the radio it’s a change of shape and it’s 3/5 at the back. Very negative in my opinion. Why? If played right these formation are the most attacking ones 🤣 |
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Post by mickstupp on Aug 19, 2023 13:24:33 GMT
Gallagher just confirmed on the radio it’s a change of shape and it’s 3/5 at the back. Very negative in my opinion. Why? If played right these formation are the most attacking ones 🤣 He’s scared of them and changed the team to a back five at home. It’s negative. |
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Post by stokiejoe89 on Aug 19, 2023 13:25:35 GMT
Why? If played right these formation are the most attacking ones 🤣 He’s scared of them and changed the team to a back five at home. It’s negative. Mind reader now are you? Okay. |
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Post by questionable on Aug 19, 2023 13:26:01 GMT
Baffled by this IMO it’s AN shitting himself (already) it’s like going back three months, he’s been given players to get at teams but chosen a team that allows teams to get at us, Criminally yet again at home.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2023 13:26:03 GMT
It’s clear he doesn’t trust Chiquino or Mmaee on the right wing ahead of Hoever. Slightly concerning Isn't that why we're buying the Algerian lad who looks like a Brown replacement and the other young winger. I think he knows we need a more mobile left back as well. Stevens has quality but is slow. Tymon has pace but no clue how to defend. |
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Post by gcamoutsideboot on Aug 19, 2023 13:26:59 GMT
It’s clear he doesn’t trust Chiquino or Mmaee on the right wing ahead of Hoever. Slightly concerning almost like we are signing a right winger who is the equivalent of Jacob Brown |
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Aug 19, 2023 13:27:41 GMT
If that's 3 at the back, second home game of the season and with Enda Stevens at LWB he needs sectioning.
Massive clear out, signings galore and we have this negative bollocks at home.
*fully expecting a 3 nil win and I'll still choose this hill because a back three at home is scandalous.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Aug 19, 2023 13:27:42 GMT
Why? If played right these formation are the most attacking ones 🤣 He’s scared of them and changed the team to a back five at home. It’s negative. My thinking exactly. It might work and understand Thompson to do what Ipswich did to us but we should have a different option in there to choose from also with the overhaul of players we've had . |
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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on Aug 19, 2023 13:28:00 GMT
How about we give it a chance before we instantly label it a failure? In this league you have to be able to mix it up and have different tactical options. Thompson was very good against WBA, Pearson was shocking against Ipswich. Kick up the arse for Pearson. People once again showing they know sod all by claiming we're playing a left back at left wing back when Stevens has played left wing back for most of his time at Sheff Utd. Give it a chance I hope you’re right I really do. Rant over from me I hope I’m wrong I really do. I’m basing my opinion on Thomson’s selection on his career at Stoke to date rather than the game at WBA. I just don’t see what he brings to the table but maybe the bigger problem is not him but the lack of alternatives particularly in relation to big physical midfielders who can bully the opposition rather than them being bullied. |
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Post by stokiejoe89 on Aug 19, 2023 13:28:24 GMT
If we win this it's gonna be fun to see what all these mind readers saying AN is "shitting himself" will say. I'm guessing they will disappear for a few days
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Post by norters on Aug 19, 2023 13:28:29 GMT
AN and Pearson had a spat a couple of days ago but i hoped they'd kissed and made up.. obviously not..
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Post by slippyblunger on Aug 19, 2023 13:28:32 GMT
Can someone explain that logic ? 😕
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Post by gingerninja on Aug 19, 2023 13:31:16 GMT
On paper utterly underwhelming, let's hope in practice it's genius. We shall see soon enough.
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Post by stokiejoe89 on Aug 19, 2023 13:31:27 GMT
How about we give it a chance before we instantly label it a failure? In this league you have to be able to mix it up and have different tactical options. Thompson was very good against WBA, Pearson was shocking against Ipswich. Kick up the arse for Pearson. People once again showing they know sod all by claiming we're playing a left back at left wing back when Stevens has played left wing back for most of his time at Sheff Utd. Give it a chance I hope you’re right I really do. Rant over from me I hope I’m wrong I really do. I’m basing my opinion on Thomson’s selection on his career at Stoke to date rather than the game at WBA. I just don’t see what he brings to the table but maybe the bigger problem is not him but the lack of alternatives particularly in relation to big physical midfielders who can bully the opposition rather than them being bullied. I'm just someone who believes in giving things a chance before judging. IF played correctly wingback formations are the most attacking ones. Upto the players to go out there and play correctly though, It's only negative if your players making it negative, once they cross that white line it's upto them to do their jobs..nobody else. |
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Aug 19, 2023 13:33:02 GMT
It’s clear he doesn’t trust Chiquino or Mmaee on the right wing ahead of Hoever. Slightly concerning Isn't that why we're buying the Algerian lad who looks like a Brown replacement and the other young winger. I think he knows we need a more mobile left back as well. Stevens has quality but is slow. Tymon has pace but no clue how to defend. But playing Thompson, who's more left sided allows you to play Tymon! He could have played Stevens left sided center back behind Tymon. Smacks of playing the loan player or fitting him in! Anyway the proof is in the pudding! Didn't Pearson need dropping after last week, Thompson played well against West Brom? |
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Post by satoshi on Aug 19, 2023 13:34:02 GMT
First post after years of being a peeping Tom - let’s give him a chance with this new squad before we start self harming.
Probably.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Aug 19, 2023 13:34:12 GMT
If we win this it's gonna be fun to see what all these mind readers saying AN is "shitting himself" will say. I'm guessing they will disappear for a few days I can understand him being defensive minded v a powerful side like them My concern is that with all the signings we're still lacking in that midfield area but time yet in the market. |
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Post by stokemark on Aug 19, 2023 13:35:33 GMT
I hope you’re right I really do. Rant over from me I hope I’m wrong I really do. I’m basing my opinion on Thomson’s selection on his career at Stoke to date rather than the game at WBA. I just don’t see what he brings to the table but maybe the bigger problem is not him but the lack of alternatives particularly in relation to big physical midfielders who can bully the opposition rather than them being bullied. I'm just someone who believes in giving things a chance before judging. IF played correctly wingback formations are the most attacking ones. Upto the players to go out there and play correctly though, It's only negative if your players making it negative, once they cross that white line it's upto them to do their jobs..nobody else. Massively concerning that he clearly doesn't believe in the players he has signed and the system he signed them for That said the team always looked messy and was exposed at Ipswich - if you are playing 4-3-3 then why sign two wingbacks as fullbacks ? Window isn't open much longer and we are only being linked with unproven foreign players which also surprises me and begs the question who really is pulling the strings |
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Aug 19, 2023 13:36:22 GMT
Thompson over Pearson is laughable I’m no fan of Thompson but Pearson hasn’t looked anywhere near the standard of fitness required so far. Pearson didn't give the physical presence needed last week.. and thats gonna be needed even more today v Watford.. tome for cpt Lauren, Thompson and Johnson to step up. |
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Post by stokiejoe89 on Aug 19, 2023 13:38:24 GMT
If we win this it's gonna be fun to see what all these mind readers saying AN is "shitting himself" will say. I'm guessing they will disappear for a few days I can understand him being defensive minded v a powerful side like them My concern is that with all the signings we're still lacking in that midfield area but time yet in the market. It's a formation that gives you stability but also it can be very attacking IF the players do it. There's a reason majority of teams play wing backs these days. Nobody can say whether it will work or not yet, I have no idea why people are already deciding it won't work, just setting themselves up to potentially look like clowns. |
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