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Post by chiprockets on Aug 9, 2023 22:19:28 GMT
He’s clearly a fully charged Stokie. SOLar powered by the red and white, this son: send to the stoke twitter, they'll love it and use it now its run properly |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 9, 2023 23:21:29 GMT
It is moving the goal posts mate yes. He can't win can he at all? People moan he doesn't play the kids and develop them. He plays a sixteen year old and then it's 'hes not paying all the kids' so he doesn't develop them. Yep. Some of the same posters previously mocking the manager for a lack of signings a few weeks back and mockingly mentioning the competitive budget we publicly stated we'd got now seem to be saying we're not finding pathways for an exceptional crop of youngsters, after we've made what seem to be some exciting signings. Not sure people can have it both ways and in some cases it seems more than a little disingenuous... You can have it a bit both ways surely? Tezgel for instance should be given quite a bit of game time this season if he can get fit. It’s that the last bit of the sentence that makes it difficult for all involved granted. Past that though he’s about the only one who should be playing regularly. Sidibe has done well but needs nurturing a bit. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2023 23:24:54 GMT
Yep. Some of the same posters previously mocking the manager for a lack of signings a few weeks back and mockingly mentioning the competitive budget we publicly stated we'd got now seem to be saying we're not finding pathways for an exceptional crop of youngsters, after we've made what seem to be some exciting signings. Not sure people can have it both ways and in some cases it seems more than a little disingenuous... You can have it a bit both ways surely? Tezgel for instance should be given quite a bit of game time this season if he can get fit. It’s that the last bit of the sentence that makes it difficult for all involved granted. Past that though he’s about the only one who should be playing regularly. Sidibe has done well but needs nurturing a bit. He's 16, everyone needs to calm down a bit. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 9, 2023 23:29:55 GMT
You can have it a bit both ways surely? Tezgel for instance should be given quite a bit of game time this season if he can get fit. It’s that the last bit of the sentence that makes it difficult for all involved granted. Past that though he’s about the only one who should be playing regularly. Sidibe has done well but needs nurturing a bit. He's 16, everyone needs to calm down a bit. Absolutely. U21 games, bench, the odd cup game. He didn’t look out of place which was great and it was against good opposition too. It’s all very encouraging but I think we’ve got to look at getting him ready for next season. Great problem to have though. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2023 23:35:39 GMT
He's 16, everyone needs to calm down a bit. Absolutely. U21 games, bench, the odd cup game. He didn’t look out of place which was great and it was against good opposition too. It’s all very encouraging but I think we’ve got to look at getting him ready for next season. Great problem to have though. Definitely a good problem, if problem is the right word. Didn't see the game so can't comment on how he played but it's great that he is deemed good enough to get game time at his age, very promising 👍 |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 9, 2023 23:38:47 GMT
Absolutely. U21 games, bench, the odd cup game. He didn’t look out of place which was great and it was against good opposition too. It’s all very encouraging but I think we’ve got to look at getting him ready for next season. Great problem to have though. Definitely a good problem, if problem is the right word. Didn't see the game so can't comment on how he played but it's great that he is deemed good enough to get game time at his age, very promising 👍 For a 16 year old he was excellent. He got MoM which was nice but very sentimental and not for me (as you can well guess 🤣). |
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Post by hotpot on Aug 10, 2023 4:51:12 GMT
Sung to the tune of guantanamera .....
Son of Mama .... he is a son of Mama .... son of Mama .... Ooooh, a son of Mama ....... or issit too simple?
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Aug 10, 2023 5:27:30 GMT
Yep. Some of the same posters previously mocking the manager for a lack of signings a few weeks back and mockingly mentioning the competitive budget we publicly stated we'd got now seem to be saying we're not finding pathways for an exceptional crop of youngsters, after we've made what seem to be some exciting signings. Not sure people can have it both ways and in some cases it seems more than a little disingenuous... You can have it a bit both ways surely? Tezgel for instance should be given quite a bit of game time this season if he can get fit. It’s that the last bit of the sentence that makes it difficult for all involved granted. Past that though he’s about the only one who should be playing regularly. Sidibe has done well but needs nurturing a bit. I don’t think people can cry about a lack of signings and then cry when those signings play instead of the kids, no. If we have this absolutely undeniable pack of youngsters that should be playing regularly then why were they moaning so vociferously about the lack of signings? They should’ve been safe in the knowledge we had these brilliant kids coming through who’d get plenty of game time. It just smacks in some cases of the goalposts moving, but then that’s nothing new. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 10, 2023 6:32:42 GMT
You can have it a bit both ways surely? Tezgel for instance should be given quite a bit of game time this season if he can get fit. It’s that the last bit of the sentence that makes it difficult for all involved granted. Past that though he’s about the only one who should be playing regularly. Sidibe has done well but needs nurturing a bit. I don’t think people can cry about a lack of signings and then cry when those signings play instead of the kids, no. If we have this absolutely undeniable pack of youngsters that should be playing regularly then why were they moaning so vociferously about the lack of signings? They should’ve been safe in the knowledge we had these brilliant kids coming through who’d get plenty of game time. It just smacks in some cases of the goalposts moving, but then that’s nothing new. You can do both though. It just takes planning and it has to be considered. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2023 15:55:43 GMT
After his performance the other night, you have to wonder why he wasn't brought on sooner today in a midfield that has just put on the worst performance seen by a Stoke midfield for quite some time.
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Post by thepottypotter on Aug 12, 2023 16:10:35 GMT
After his performance the other night, you have to wonder why he wasn't brought on sooner today in a midfield that has just put on the worst performance seen by a Stoke midfield for quite some time. The whole team was painful to watch. |
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Post by biddulphchav on Aug 12, 2023 16:16:16 GMT
After his performance the other night, you have to wonder why he wasn't brought on sooner today in a midfield that has just put on the worst performance seen by a Stoke midfield for quite some time. Cup games are much less pressured on the whole. Don’t think AN will trust younger players in league games…..We’ll see of course but I’m not expecting much in the way of minutes for any of them, including Tezgel |
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Aug 12, 2023 16:33:57 GMT
After his performance the other night, you have to wonder why he wasn't brought on sooner today in a midfield that has just put on the worst performance seen by a Stoke midfield for quite some time. It's been a long summer. May was quite some time ago indeed. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2023 16:36:33 GMT
After his performance the other night, you have to wonder why he wasn't brought on sooner today in a midfield that has just put on the worst performance seen by a Stoke midfield for quite some time. He’s 16. He shouldn’t be brought on with the expectation of him making a difference. I’m surprised he’s been given as many minutes as he has. Happy for him. |
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 1, 2023 13:00:31 GMT
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Post by tommycarlsberg on Sept 1, 2023 13:03:06 GMT
I think we should be trying to get him a loan at a local Midlands club. Maybe we are.
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Post by nigerianstokie on Sept 1, 2023 13:05:52 GMT
I think we should be trying to get him a loan at a local Midlands club. Maybe we are. Can’t go on loan until he turns 17. |
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Post by stokiejoe89 on Sept 1, 2023 13:05:53 GMT
I think we should be trying to get him a loan at a local Midlands club. Maybe we are. 16 year olds can't go on loan. Min age is 17 |
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Post by nottsover60 on Sept 1, 2023 13:12:39 GMT
I think we should be trying to get him a loan at a local Midlands club. Maybe we are. Can’t go on loan until he turns 17. Why would we want to anyway? I think playing for the u21's and getting minutes for the first team is best at the moment. He hasn't seemed phased about playing men's football so far, taken the physical stuff in his stride so doesn't need toughening up and is clearly rated by Neil. His development is going fine. |
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Sept 1, 2023 13:13:07 GMT
He will get plenty of minutes coming off the bench, plus the odd start depending on injuries and suspensions.
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Post by stokesupporter on Sept 1, 2023 13:23:39 GMT
Yeah, we should keep him here and give him some minutes on the pitch. He's good enough and gets only better!
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Post by nigerianstokie on Sept 1, 2023 13:23:51 GMT
Can’t go on loan until he turns 17. Why would we want to anyway? I think playing for the u21's and getting minutes for the first team is best at the moment. He hasn't seemed phased about playing men's football so far, taken the physical stuff in his stride so doesn't need toughening up and is clearly rated by Neil. His development is going fine. I agree, I’d rather he stayed. If needs be he can be loaned out when he turns 17, though I still wouldn’t. |
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Post by mrnovember on Sept 1, 2023 13:26:31 GMT
What a name Spike Brits is. Sounds like the protagonist of a 1980s Hollywood blockbuster. Who, against all the odds, overcomes a difficult upbringing to help his school win the national volleyball championships. Much to the dismay of the school bully, Chip Blockson, who does everything he can to thwart Spikes rise in volleyball and high school social standings. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2023 14:02:59 GMT
Can’t go on loan until he turns 17. Why would we want to anyway? I think playing for the u21's and getting minutes for the first team is best at the moment. He hasn't seemed phased about playing men's football so far, taken the physical stuff in his stride so doesn't need toughening up and is clearly rated by Neil. His development is going fine. His development is going fine. However, the U21s is a nothing league. The sheer number of players who do well there and then drop off is telling. If AN will be happy to continue to give him minutes throughout the season, then we should keep him close. If not, as soon as he turns 17, he should be out on loan. I believe that non-league don’t have a window. He’ll miss the January window but surely would benefit with a dozen or so games playing against men rather than boys. I personally believe that the 1-2 month loan options in the non league system should be used far more to provide a bit of steel to the younger players. They can go out for a short time, learn what it is like to play others who are more experienced and bigger, then come back to Stoke to discuss how to personalize their training and get the best out of themselves based on what they felt was still lacking. |
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 6, 2023 16:36:38 GMT
On the bench. If he doesn't get any action today, they've got two other games against Morocco and Spain  |
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Post by delilahwhy on Sept 6, 2023 16:52:26 GMT
On the bench. If he doesn't get any action today, they've got two other games against Morocco and Spain Looking at the list of clubs, interesting to see New York City in there! |
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Post by tommycarlsberg on Sept 6, 2023 16:55:57 GMT
Should be playing in front of Laurent at the moment.
It would send a message to the club captain but I don’t blame Laurent, just not sure he’s capable of the standard we are aspiring to.
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 6, 2023 18:25:13 GMT
Sidibe on for the last half hour
England 3-2 down
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Post by Veritas on Sept 6, 2023 19:10:06 GMT
Should be playing in front of Laurent at the moment. It would send a message to the club captain but I don’t blame Laurent, just not sure he’s capable of the standard we are aspiring to. No he shouldn't. He looks a great prospect but don't get carried away and don't jump at the opportunity to use him as a stick to beat another player with. |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 6, 2023 19:12:52 GMT
Should be playing in front of Laurent at the moment. It would send a message to the club captain but I don’t blame Laurent, just not sure he’s capable of the standard we are aspiring to. No he shouldn't. He looks a great prospect but don't get carried away and don't jump at the opportunity to use him as a stick to beat another player with. I get what Tommy is saying, Laurent is on borrowed time and Sidibe has looked excellent so far. |
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