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Post by Kingswaystokie on Jul 10, 2024 13:35:59 GMT
If a 16 years old Spanish player, sorry can't remember his name, plays as well as he did last night in a full international game then I'm sure Sol is capable of getting into our first team.
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Jul 10, 2024 14:19:54 GMT
You're talking about a once in a generation talent though.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Jul 10, 2024 14:28:11 GMT
Sidibe will one day be a future Capt.of Stoke City,I can feel it my water.
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Post by femark on Jul 10, 2024 14:38:46 GMT
If a 16 years old Spanish player, sorry can't remember his name, plays as well as he did last night in a full international game then I'm sure Sol is capable of getting into our first team. That doesn't really make sense does it? Jesus Navas played in a Euro semi-final...does that mean i'll play for Stoke at 38?
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Jul 10, 2024 14:52:33 GMT
Never one to get carried away by youngsters some wanted some throwing in who weren't good enough, Sparrow ,Shenton etc but Sidibe looks like a player who can genuinely make the grade.
Glimpses he looks like a ball winning midfielder, something we've lacked for too long and be interesting to see him pre season and how much he features
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Post by thornestein on Jul 10, 2024 15:18:06 GMT
He’s good enough for the bench and should start 10/15 games this season. A loan is just pointless and a backwards step. That’s not going to happen though is it. Also, 17 year olds are least likely to get used off the bench to make an impact. Unless he’s a stand out, elite young player he’s unlikely to get much game time this season with us. trouble is there’s other clubs sniffing around him , unless he gets chances we could lose him easily
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Post by mickstupp on Jul 10, 2024 17:18:05 GMT
That’s not going to happen though is it. Also, 17 year olds are least likely to get used off the bench to make an impact. Unless he’s a stand out, elite young player he’s unlikely to get much game time this season with us. trouble is there’s other clubs sniffing around him , unless he gets chances we could lose him easily He’s just signed a three year deal so we are protected from that for the time being.
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Post by thornestein on Jul 10, 2024 17:21:06 GMT
trouble is there’s other clubs sniffing around him , unless he gets chances we could lose him easily He’s just signed a three year deal so we are protected from that for the time being. are we , they could always make an offer
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 10, 2024 22:11:12 GMT
He’s good enough for the bench and should start 10/15 games this season. A loan is just pointless and a backwards step. That’s not going to happen though is it. Also, 17 year olds are least likely to get used off the bench to make an impact. Unless he’s a stand out, elite young player he’s unlikely to get much game time this season with us. Why isn’t it going to happen? It absolutely should happen and Walters should be pushing for it to happen. He’s an England youth international. He’s stand out.
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Post by lordb on Jul 10, 2024 22:12:45 GMT
He’s just signed a three year deal so we are protected from that for the time being. are we , they could always make an offer Yes but we are now protected from losing him for nothing France and England fought over to get him, he's a special prospect
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Post by foxysgloves on Jul 10, 2024 22:12:51 GMT
That’s not going to happen though is it. Also, 17 year olds are least likely to get used off the bench to make an impact. Unless he’s a stand out, elite young player he’s unlikely to get much game time this season with us. Why isn’t it going to happen? It absolutely should happen and Walters should be pushing for it to happen. He’s an England youth international. He’s stand out. Walters shouldn’t have anything to do with picking the team. And if he did plenty of posters on here would be calling Schumacher a coward for letting it happen.
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Post by mickstupp on Jul 10, 2024 22:14:30 GMT
That’s not going to happen though is it. Also, 17 year olds are least likely to get used off the bench to make an impact. Unless he’s a stand out, elite young player he’s unlikely to get much game time this season with us. Why isn’t it going to happen? It absolutely should happen and Walters should be pushing for it to happen. He’s an England youth international. He’s stand out. I hope you are right. I like to see youngsters come through but we haven’t seen enough of him to say if he’s stand out yet. I’ve seen him play in all of his first team appearances and he’s been ok, no more or less.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 10, 2024 22:16:43 GMT
Why isn’t it going to happen? It absolutely should happen and Walters should be pushing for it to happen. He’s an England youth international. He’s stand out. Walters shouldn’t have anything to do with picking the team. And if he did plenty of posters on here would be calling Schumacher a coward for letting it happen. His job is to make the sure club is a destination for the best players and making sure the manager create progression routes for that should absolutely be in his remit.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 10, 2024 22:17:22 GMT
Why isn’t it going to happen? It absolutely should happen and Walters should be pushing for it to happen. He’s an England youth international. He’s stand out. I hope you are right. I like to see youngsters come through but we haven’t seen enough of him to say if he’s stand out yet. I’ve seen him play in all of his first team appearances and he’s been ok, no more or less. Which for a fucking 16 year old is stand out 🤣🤦♂️
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Post by lordb on Jul 10, 2024 22:17:45 GMT
Why isn’t it going to happen? It absolutely should happen and Walters should be pushing for it to happen. He’s an England youth international. He’s stand out. I hope you are right. I like to see youngsters come through but we haven’t seen enough of him to say if he’s stand out yet. I’ve seen him play in all of his first team appearances and he’s been ok, no more or less. Watch an U21 game,live if you can, he's so far ahead it's unreal Pre season is important for Sol especially If he doesn't show then a loan out yes If he does then he should be used as a first team player, see where we are till January
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Post by mickstupp on Jul 10, 2024 22:18:13 GMT
I hope you are right. I like to see youngsters come through but we haven’t seen enough of him to say if he’s stand out yet. I’ve seen him play in all of his first team appearances and he’s been ok, no more or less. Which for a fucking 16 year old is stand out 🤣🤦♂️ It doesn’t mean he should be starting 25-30% of our first team games though.
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Post by mickstupp on Jul 10, 2024 22:19:04 GMT
I hope you are right. I like to see youngsters come through but we haven’t seen enough of him to say if he’s stand out yet. I’ve seen him play in all of his first team appearances and he’s been ok, no more or less. Watch an U21 game,live if you can, he's so far ahead it's unreal Pre season is important for Sol especially If he doesn't show then a loan out yes If he does then he should be used as a first team player, see where we are till January What type of midfielder do you think he is? Is he a 6, an 8, or a 10?
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Post by lordb on Jul 10, 2024 22:20:59 GMT
Watch an U21 game,live if you can, he's so far ahead it's unreal Pre season is important for Sol especially If he doesn't show then a loan out yes If he does then he should be used as a first team player, see where we are till January What type of midfielder do you think he is? Is he a 6, an 8, or a 10? 8 But tbh I don't like how we over catagorise midfielders, they all should be all rounders up to a point
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 10, 2024 22:21:23 GMT
Which for a fucking 16 year old is stand out 🤣🤦♂️ It doesn’t mean he should be starting 25-30% of our first team games though. I think it absolutely does. He didn’t look out of place in the Championship aged 16. That’s huge. Embrace it. Give him chances and I really think he’ll flourish. And if he doesn’t? Send him back to the u21s and then a loan in Jan if he doesn’t show enough from there. I’d love us to sell Laurent and Baker and sign a really good starter and have Sidibe as his back up. It’s an absolutely ideal situation.
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Post by lordb on Jul 10, 2024 22:25:43 GMT
It doesn’t mean he should be starting 25-30% of our first team games though. I think it absolutely does. He didn’t look out of place in the Championship aged 16. That’s huge. Embrace it. Give him chances and I really think he’ll flourish. And if he doesn’t? Send him back to the u21s and then a loan in Jan if he doesn’t show enough from there. I’d love us to sell Laurent and Baker and sign a really good starter and have Sidibe as his back up. It’s an absolutely ideal situation. I'd just play Sol with Burger Depending on the game situation either with Thompson or Pearson (yes Pearson) or Cundle or Bae that would be 6 players for 3 positions However if Bae stays wide (no bad option) we'd need another midfielder unless Baker stays Transfer wise it's all about the striker we get
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 10, 2024 22:29:23 GMT
I think it absolutely does. He didn’t look out of place in the Championship aged 16. That’s huge. Embrace it. Give him chances and I really think he’ll flourish. And if he doesn’t? Send him back to the u21s and then a loan in Jan if he doesn’t show enough from there. I’d love us to sell Laurent and Baker and sign a really good starter and have Sidibe as his back up. It’s an absolutely ideal situation. I'd just play Sol with Burger Depending on the game situation either with Thompson or Pearson (yes Pearson) or Cundle or Bae that would be 6 players for 3 positions However if Bae stays wide (no bad option) we'd need another midfielder unless Baker stays Transfer wise it's all about the striker we get If he sticks with Bae as a left winger this is how I see it: New DM Burger New CM Pearson Thompson Sidibe I think we need two new starters in there.
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Post by foxysgloves on Jul 10, 2024 22:40:49 GMT
Walters shouldn’t have anything to do with picking the team. And if he did plenty of posters on here would be calling Schumacher a coward for letting it happen. His job is to make the sure club is a destination for the best players and making sure the manager create progression routes for that should absolutely be in his remit. If Walters was shown to be picking the team supporters would be up in arms. And rightly so. Very surprised you think that’s part of his remit.
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Jul 10, 2024 22:47:31 GMT
If Sol is mature enough to grasp the championship at such a young age, then give him the chance.... Everton did it in the PREM with Rooney, as did Liverpool with Owen!!! Two phenomenal players, fair enough, but the standard of the Premier League compared to the championship is a whole lot higher!!!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 10, 2024 22:48:55 GMT
His job is to make the sure club is a destination for the best players and making sure the manager create progression routes for that should absolutely be in his remit. If Walters was shown to be picking the team supporters would be up in arms. And rightly so. Very surprised you think that’s part of his remit. It’s not picking the team. He should be setting what he wants this club to be and having routes for youth players should be part of that. And if the head coach doesn’t follow that then they should be replaced. This is how the current model should work.
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Post by foxysgloves on Jul 10, 2024 22:57:53 GMT
If Walters was shown to be picking the team supporters would be up in arms. And rightly so. Very surprised you think that’s part of his remit. It’s not picking the team. He should be setting what he wants this club to be and having routes for youth players should be part of that. And if the head coach doesn’t follow that then they should be replaced. This is how the current model should work. You said Walters should be pushing for him to get game time. How’s that not picking the team? I’m pretty sure if Sol is good enough that Schumacher will be able to judge that himself.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 10, 2024 23:04:22 GMT
It’s not picking the team. He should be setting what he wants this club to be and having routes for youth players should be part of that. And if the head coach doesn’t follow that then they should be replaced. This is how the current model should work. You said Walters should be pushing for him to get game time. How’s that not picking the team? I’m pretty sure if Sol is good enough that Schumacher will be able to judge that himself. Yes he should. Because he’s not picking him for specific games. There should be a target that he plays x amount and we develop him with the best interests of the club at heart. Managers are short term appointments and will make short term decisions. The sporting director has to ensure that doesn’t happen.
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Post by J-Roar on Jul 11, 2024 5:42:46 GMT
You're talking about a once in a generation talent though. You think Sol is that good?
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Post by J-Roar on Jul 11, 2024 5:52:11 GMT
I think it absolutely does. He didn’t look out of place in the Championship aged 16. That’s huge. Embrace it. Give him chances and I really think he’ll flourish. And if he doesn’t? Send him back to the u21s and then a loan in Jan if he doesn’t show enough from there. I’d love us to sell Laurent and Baker and sign a really good starter and have Sidibe as his back up. It’s an absolutely ideal situation. I'd just play Sol with Burger Depending on the game situation either with Thompson or Pearson (yes Pearson) or Cundle or Bae that would be 6 players for 3 positions However if Bae stays wide (no bad option) we'd need another midfielder unless Baker stays Transfer wise it's all about the striker we get Sol with Burger? Sounds the real deal Attachments:
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Post by J-Roar on Jul 11, 2024 7:25:41 GMT
We can also sing this for Sol
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Post by foxysgloves on Jul 11, 2024 9:35:24 GMT
You said Walters should be pushing for him to get game time. How’s that not picking the team? I’m pretty sure if Sol is good enough that Schumacher will be able to judge that himself. Yes he should. Because he’s not picking him for specific games. There should be a target that he plays x amount and we develop him with the best interests of the club at heart. Managers are short term appointments and will make short term decisions. The sporting director has to ensure that doesn’t happen. The Sporting Director should ensure the players are in place to make us a good team. That should be a combination of youth players that we’ve developed and players we’ve signed who will strengthen us and potentially make us money in future transfers, The Sporting Director should have no input on team selection unless asked by the manager. In which case I’d seriously wonder about the managers suitability.
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