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Post by superjw on Apr 14, 2024 9:23:02 GMT
They were always going to retaliate, that’s their right is it not? What’s good for the goose etc. It may well end up being being daft if Israel directly responds and causes more escalation, but Iran were always going to do this and made it quite clear I don’t think they were. They haven’t before. And they did and when it came it was swatted away with ease despite being a pretty big well coordinated attack. In fairness Israel caused this escalation, so Iran did what they had right to do. We probably wouldn’t be talking about it if they hadn’t have started this latest instalment
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Post by stokeson on Apr 14, 2024 9:23:58 GMT
The hypocrisy of USA and UK airforce involvement in this while letting Putin bomb the hell out of the Ukraine.
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Apr 14, 2024 9:24:49 GMT
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Post by mrnovember on Apr 14, 2024 9:24:49 GMT
Well no, that’s why they’ve built a swarm strategy to try and overwhelm it but it failed…. Did Iran actually try and inflict any damage though. Bizarre yes, but surely they were just dipping their toe in the water and seeing what the response was. The missiles that they used were the non damagey ones.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 14, 2024 9:25:10 GMT
Well no, that’s why they’ve built a swarm strategy to try and overwhelm it but it failed…. Embarrassingly so to, not even a pot hole I think as a strategy it could work but you need to harass the enemy fighter jets. As it was last night it would have been like shooting fish in a barrel. China will be watching and will know that.
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Post by scfcno1fan on Apr 14, 2024 9:25:26 GMT
I do think Israel will respond mind.
Unnamed sources saying a significant response will happen soon.
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Post by scfcno1fan on Apr 14, 2024 9:26:01 GMT
Did Iran actually try and inflict any damage though. Bizarre yes, but surely they were just dipping their toe in the water and seeing what the response was. The missiles that they used were the non damagey ones.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 14, 2024 9:26:09 GMT
Well no, that’s why they’ve built a swarm strategy to try and overwhelm it but it failed…. Did Iran actually try and inflict any damage though. Bizarre yes, but surely they were just dipping their toe in the water and seeing what the response was. I mean they fired 200 drones and 100 missiles, you’d hope something would go boom? It was a much bigger attack than people were expecting.
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Post by superjw on Apr 14, 2024 9:26:21 GMT
Well on our heads be it. We need to tell them, in no uncertain terms, not too escalate. Yes but they have a right to defend themselves and war is big money Does the right to defend oneself always keep rolling over? I don’t know how the legal rule actually applies, but does the right to defend oneself still apply to a retaliatory attack of another country who were exercising their right to defend their self? Sounds like a wheel of misfortune to me
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 14, 2024 9:27:19 GMT
I don’t think they were. They haven’t before. And they did and when it came it was swatted away with ease despite being a pretty big well coordinated attack. In fairness Israel caused this escalation, so Iran did what they had right to do. We probably wouldn’t be talking about it if they hadn’t have started this latest instalment Iran coordinated the 7th October. So it was them. Tit for tat shite.
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Post by superjw on Apr 14, 2024 9:27:54 GMT
I do think Israel will respond mind. Unnamed sources saying a significant response will happen soon. That pretty much becomes war then right? Israel attacks, Iran responds. Israel attacks again - War?
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Post by thisisouryear on Apr 14, 2024 9:29:55 GMT
Well no, that’s why they’ve built a swarm strategy to try and overwhelm it but it failed…. Did Iran actually try and inflict any damage though. Bizarre yes, but surely they were just dipping their toe in the water and seeing what the response was. After seeing what a failure it was they will obviously play it down. Any strike was always going to risk escalation of a greater conflict and it just looks like a miscalculation now. They could have just increased interrupting trade to Israel as retaliation. Taking out a few cargo ships would be considered as a more cautious approach than actually firing at Israel. Now this war can go in any direction
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Post by prettything on Apr 14, 2024 9:30:08 GMT
If only somebody told Iran they had one of those, guess we were the only ones to know this. Well no, that’s why they’ve built a swarm strategy to try and overwhelm it but it failed…. A swarm strategy, eh? And you think Iran using this “swarm “ strategy thought they were going to overwhelm the Israel defences alongside the US and UK being in the right place and right time?When the Palestinians armed with guns and hang gliders successfully breached Israel soil without such modern fire power. This was an agreed pre planned attack by all parties for Iran to show intent and retaliation against Israel.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 14, 2024 9:32:33 GMT
Well no, that’s why they’ve built a swarm strategy to try and overwhelm it but it failed…. A swarm strategy, eh? And you think Iran using this “swarm “ strategy thought they were going to overwhelm the Israel defences alongside the US and UK being in the right place and right time?When the Palestinians armed with guns and hang gliders successfully breached Israel soil without such modern fire power. This was an agreed pre planned attack by all parties for Iran to show intent and retaliation against Israel. Yes that’s the whole frigging point of it 🤣
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Post by thisisouryear on Apr 14, 2024 9:37:22 GMT
Yes but they have a right to defend themselves and war is big money Does the right to defend oneself always keep rolling over? I don’t know how the legal rule actually applies, but does the right to defend oneself still apply to a retaliatory attack of another country who were exercising their right to defend their self? Sounds like a wheel of misfortune to me It's just an excuse thrown out to justify attacking someone
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Post by prettything on Apr 14, 2024 9:37:45 GMT
A swarm strategy, eh? And you think Iran using this “swarm “ strategy thought they were going to overwhelm the Israel defences alongside the US and UK being in the right place and right time?When the Palestinians armed with guns and hang gliders successfully breached Israel soil without such modern fire power. This was an agreed pre planned attack by all parties for Iran to show intent and retaliation against Israel. Yes that’s the whole frigging point of it 🤣 No worries. Iran are currently reeling and can’t understand how any of their drones and missiles didn’t hit any of their intended targets and were foiled by those dastardly kids again! You really think it wouldn’t be all out war if Iran were serious about attacking the USA’s key ally in the Middle East ? America would be mobilising right now and preparing for an all out attack on Iran by Monday. Instead Biden is using tough rhetoric. This was simply War Games.
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Post by Gods on Apr 14, 2024 9:45:17 GMT
The hypocrisy of USA and UK airforce involvement in this while letting Putin bomb the hell out of the Ukraine. We're shit scared of Putin and he's nuked up to the eye balls.
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Post by cdf on Apr 14, 2024 9:50:07 GMT
I'm stuck in my own little world, so, I have no clue what so ever what is going and I know I'm going to be completely wrong on this but surely Israel started all of this by bombing the Iranian embassy? is that right?
If that is right, then Iran had every right to show some form of retaliation.
I also think last night's drone attacks were a form of fishing exercise for Iran, for them to see which world leaders were going to speak up to condemn Iran & help Israel. So, Iran no now which countries they are up against should this thing escalate.
Like someone said earlier, why are we letting Russia bomb the fuck of the Ukraine but we couldn't act quick enough to help defend the instigators of all this last night.
Why is it alway's the USA & the UK making statements and getting involved in all things like this?
I may have got this wrong but I have not heard anything from countries like France or Germany in regards to them getting involved in the attacks last night?
I'm just hoping now that both Biden & Sunak and all other world leaders are in constant dialogue with Netanyahu to calm this shit down.
Like, I said, I have not got a clue and maybe wrong on all the above
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Post by cdf on Apr 14, 2024 9:51:48 GMT
The hypocrisy of USA and UK airforce involvement in this while letting Putin bomb the hell out of the Ukraine. We're shit scared of Putin and he's nuked up to the eye balls. So are Iran, are they not?
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Post by prestwichpotter on Apr 14, 2024 10:02:26 GMT
I'm stuck in my own little world, so, I have no clue what so ever what is going and I know I'm going to be completely wrong on this but surely Israel started all of this by bombing the Iranian embassy? is that right? If that is right, then Iran had every right to show some form of retaliation. I also think last night's drone attacks were a form of fishing exercise for Iran, for them to see which world leaders were going to speak up to condemn Iran & help Israel. So, Iran no now which countries they are up against should this thing escalate. Like someone said earlier, why are we letting Russia bomb the fuck of the Ukraine but we couldn't act quick enough to help defend the instigators of all this last night. Why is it alway's the USA & the UK making statements and getting involved in all things like this? I may have got this wrong but I have not heard anything from countries like France or Germany in regards to them getting involved in the attacks last night? I'm just hoping now that both Biden & Sunak and all other world leaders are in constant dialogue with Netanyahu to calm this shit down. Like, I said, I have not got a clue and maybe wrong on all the above Iran are involved in the conflict Israel have with the likes of Lebanon and Syria through Hezbollah so it’s always a situation that could be inflamed at any time, the bombing of the Iranian Embassy in Damascus is the incident on this occasion though yes…..
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Post by prestwichpotter on Apr 14, 2024 10:04:58 GMT
It hits home even harder when you see the might of the Israeli defence forces with their cutting edge technology shooting down missile after missile, the sheer absurdity of them seemingly allowing 1,000 Hamas fighters through a hole in the fence and in home made hang gliders to run amok for hours on end causing death and destruction…….
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Post by knype on Apr 14, 2024 10:09:53 GMT
It hits home even harder when you see the might of the Israeli defence forces with their cutting edge technology shooting down missile after missile, the sheer absurdity of them seemingly allowing 1,000 Hamas fighters through a hole in the fence and in home made hang gliders to run amok for hours on end causing death and destruction……. Yeah because their iron dome system will stop rogue human attacks
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Post by prestwichpotter on Apr 14, 2024 10:16:15 GMT
It hits home even harder when you see the might of the Israeli defence forces with their cutting edge technology shooting down missile after missile, the sheer absurdity of them seemingly allowing 1,000 Hamas fighters through a hole in the fence and in home made hang gliders to run amok for hours on end causing death and destruction……. Yeah because their iron dome system will stop rogue human attacks Fucking hell you’re hard work. The point I’m making is that one of the most advanced military forces in the world shouldn’t just be allowing armed men to waltz into an area with a huge army base and stroll around like they were on a day trip on Blackpool sea front. They can shoot down a missile using precision technology, but didn’t see a couple of dozen hang gliders coming at them from 50 feet ok the air. Very odd….
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Post by knype on Apr 14, 2024 10:19:56 GMT
Yeah because their iron dome system will stop rogue human attacks Fucking hell you’re hard work. The point I’m making is that one of the most advanced military forces in the world shouldn’t just be allowing armed men to waltz into an area with a huge army base and stroll around like they were on a day trip on Blackpool sea front. They can shoot down a missile using precision technology, but didn’t see a couple of dozen hang gliders coming at them from 50 feet ok the air. Very odd…. You could literally say the same about any terrorist attack in any country in the world. Why do so many migrants make it into the USA from Mexico? Because the border is that large that it all cannot be policed due to the vast amount of land involved. Its you that's hard work if you can't work that out
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Post by superjw on Apr 14, 2024 10:27:08 GMT
It hits home even harder when you see the might of the Israeli defence forces with their cutting edge technology shooting down missile after missile, the sheer absurdity of them seemingly allowing 1,000 Hamas fighters through a hole in the fence and in home made hang gliders to run amok for hours on end causing death and destruction……. Add to that, the almost endless warnings given to Israel to tell them something like this was coming. Even the Egyptians chimed in with warnings too
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Post by prestwichpotter on Apr 14, 2024 10:46:38 GMT
Fucking hell you’re hard work. The point I’m making is that one of the most advanced military forces in the world shouldn’t just be allowing armed men to waltz into an area with a huge army base and stroll around like they were on a day trip on Blackpool sea front. They can shoot down a missile using precision technology, but didn’t see a couple of dozen hang gliders coming at them from 50 feet ok the air. Very odd…. You could literally say the same about any terrorist attack in any country in the world. Why do so many migrants make it into the USA from Mexico? Because the border is that large that it all cannot be policed due to the vast amount of land involved. Its you that's hard work if you can't work that out The Israel-Gaza border is 37 miles long the majority of which is surrounded by a heavily fortified perimeter, Israel also controls Gazan air space and territorial waters. The USA-Mexico border is just under 2,000 miles long..........
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Post by lordb on Apr 14, 2024 11:26:47 GMT
We're shit scared of Putin and he's nuked up to the eye balls. So are Iran, are they not? They don't have ICBMs, USA not under direct threat
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Apr 14, 2024 11:35:37 GMT
It hits home even harder when you see the might of the Israeli defence forces with their cutting edge technology shooting down missile after missile, the sheer absurdity of them seemingly allowing 1,000 Hamas fighters through a hole in the fence and in home made hang gliders to run amok for hours on end causing death and destruction……. Add to that, the almost endless warnings given to Israel to tell them something like this was coming. Even the Egyptians chimed in with warnings too Yeah but what f- can read hieroglyphics Bird bird bomb cat bird
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Post by prestwichpotter on Apr 14, 2024 11:36:12 GMT
We royally fucked up by not building bridges with Iran under the last moderate regime. It's a wonderful country with friendly welcoming people and could be a fantastic trading partner for Britain and Europe. They're also a key stakeholder to potential peace in the Middle East along with a handful of others.
The moment has well and truly passed unfortunately and now we're back to radical Islamic ideologues........
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 14, 2024 11:43:55 GMT
Yes that’s the whole frigging point of it 🤣 No worries. Iran are currently reeling and can’t understand how any of their drones and missiles didn’t hit any of their intended targets and were foiled by those dastardly kids again! You really think it wouldn’t be all out war if Iran were serious about attacking the USA’s key ally in the Middle East ? America would be mobilising right now and preparing for an all out attack on Iran by Monday. Instead Biden is using tough rhetoric. This was simply War Games. I think you’re being dramatic. GAWA put a tweet in the Ukraine thread from some fantasist talking about a war with Iran. America wouldn’t mobilise, to me mobilise suggests boots on the ground. Invading Iran would be a massive undertaking with massive losses. Iran has devised a military doctrine and Israel has devised a way to counter it. It’s not a conspiracy.
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Apr 14, 2024 11:44:59 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 14, 2024 11:44:59 GMT
It hits home even harder when you see the might of the Israeli defence forces with their cutting edge technology shooting down missile after missile, the sheer absurdity of them seemingly allowing 1,000 Hamas fighters through a hole in the fence and in home made hang gliders to run amok for hours on end causing death and destruction……. It’s totally different.
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