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Apr 14, 2024 8:26:14 GMT
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Post by thisisouryear on Apr 14, 2024 8:26:14 GMT
Netanyahu will feel really emboldened by this. Iran's attack did jack shit and he will feel that Iran are weak so may well attack them. They fired over 300 drones and they did nothing, Iran must be shitting themselves now if their defence isn't up to a similar standard, that's quite a big retaliation by Iran which did nothing. Netanyahu has a reason to attack Iran and he doesn't seem the type to let an opportunity pass
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Apr 14, 2024 8:42:04 GMT
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Post by mrnovember on Apr 14, 2024 8:42:04 GMT
Celebrating a futile attack.
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Apr 14, 2024 8:45:24 GMT
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Post by prestwichpotter on Apr 14, 2024 8:45:24 GMT
Celebrating a futile attack. State owned media tells them a fabricated version of events and they come out celebrating…..
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Apr 14, 2024 8:48:18 GMT
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Post by mrnovember on Apr 14, 2024 8:48:18 GMT
Celebrating a futile attack. State owned media tells them a fabricated version of events and they come out celebrating….. Even worse then.
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Post by superjw on Apr 14, 2024 8:52:30 GMT
Iran had a right to respond to Israel attacking right? Isn’t this how it works? Or perhaps the west doesn’t believe their own narrative doesn’t apply to so called “inferior” or “enemy” states. Iran knew what they were doing, they warned and announced what and when they would retaliate. They wouldn’t have expected their cheap and slow drones would have done anything other than waste western money on air defence. Political posturing to retaliate for the attack and they will be seeing if Israel retaliate themselves. If they do, well we are in the magic roundabout aren’t we - it’s now ball in the court of the US to try and prevent israel from doing anything. They bombed an embassy (act of war itself tbh) Iran responded with drones that didn’t really do anything. Iran will be watching whether the US say the political equivalent of “let’s call it quits lads” If that doesn’t happen, then Iran can blame Israel for fully escalating the Middle East and kick off either a flurry of retaliatory attacks from both sides, or War. They fired 100 missiles at them. That mainly largely failed too. That’s pretty embarrassing. Of course the drones are there as a way of tying a system like Iron Dome but that didn’t happen. Yet they still fired a hundred missiles. It’s just bought one side closer, alienated Gaza even more and Iran look a bit crap. I don’t think Iran cares about that, they knew almost of none of their drones and missiles would get through, I don’t think they are that daft. Nothing is getting past their air defence, especially with plenty of prior warning about exactly what was coming and when. It’s pure posturing to be seen as retaliating which they had every right to do. Even their statement to the UN says they are done, it’s over - providing Israel don’t retaliate to the retaliation.
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Post by prettything on Apr 14, 2024 8:52:44 GMT
I don’t think the missiles were meant to hit anything.
This was purely a show to the world that Iran retaliated to Israel, that is it.
Iran have done this before .
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Apr 14, 2024 8:53:48 GMT
As I've got older , it has become more and more clear that the so called powerful political " leaders" are precisely the type of person we don't need. No one, no ordinary person, Jew, Muslim or other wants this, Yet here we are again, on the verge of them " sorting it out", the only way they know how, with the rest of us, bystanders, helplessly expressing our contempt, outrage and " disgust" from the side.
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Apr 14, 2024 8:57:34 GMT
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Post by lordb on Apr 14, 2024 8:57:34 GMT
They fired 100 missiles at them. That mainly largely failed too. That’s pretty embarrassing. Of course the drones are there as a way of tying a system like Iron Dome but that didn’t happen. Yet they still fired a hundred missiles. It’s just bought one side closer, alienated Gaza even more and Iran look a bit crap. I don’t think Iran cares about that, they knew almost of none of their drones and missiles would get through, I don’t think they are that daft. Nothing is getting past their air defence, especially with plenty of prior warning about exactly what was coming and when. It’s pure posturing to be seen as retaliating which they had every right to do. Even their statement to the UN says they are done, it’s over - providing Israel don’t retaliate to the retaliation. Which they absolutely will, as Iran will have expected as such they will be preparing their escalation to Israels response to this attack It's most definitely not over
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Post by lordb on Apr 14, 2024 8:58:27 GMT
I don’t think the missiles were meant to hit anything. This was purely a show to the world that Iran retaliated to Israel, that is it. Iran have done this before . They haven't attacked Israel directly from Iran before, that's a new development
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Post by scfcno1fan on Apr 14, 2024 9:01:07 GMT
Iran have basically said it’s a spectacle. They consider the matter closed, as they have responded directly based on the UN charter of self defence.
It’s up to the UK, France, US etc to ensure Israel don’t do anything rash now.
If they do, we should leave them to it…
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Apr 14, 2024 9:01:27 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 14, 2024 9:01:27 GMT
I don’t think the missiles were meant to hit anything. This was purely a show to the world that Iran retaliated to Israel, that is it. Iran have done this before . They haven't attacked Israel directly from Iran before, that's a new development It’s a massive escalation.
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Israel
Apr 14, 2024 9:02:31 GMT
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Post by lordb on Apr 14, 2024 9:02:31 GMT
Iran have basically said it’s a spectacle. They consider the matter closed, as they have responded directly based on the UN charter of self defence. It’s up to the UK, France, US etc to ensure Israel don’t do anything rash now. If they do, we should leave them to it… We are doing the exact opposite
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Post by mrnovember on Apr 14, 2024 9:02:40 GMT
They fired 100 missiles at them. That mainly largely failed too. That’s pretty embarrassing. Of course the drones are there as a way of tying a system like Iron Dome but that didn’t happen. Yet they still fired a hundred missiles. It’s just bought one side closer, alienated Gaza even more and Iran look a bit crap. I don’t think Iran cares about that, they knew almost of none of their drones and missiles would get through, I don’t think they are that daft. Nothing is getting past their air defence, especially with plenty of prior warning about exactly what was coming and when. It’s pure posturing to be seen as retaliating which they had every right to do. Even their statement to the UN says they are done, it’s over - providing Israel don’t retaliate to the retaliation. You don't think that Iran cares about how toothless they've proven themselves to be? In terms of a direct attack at least. They still have thier trusty old proxy wars.
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Apr 14, 2024 9:04:12 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 14, 2024 9:04:12 GMT
They fired 100 missiles at them. That mainly largely failed too. That’s pretty embarrassing. Of course the drones are there as a way of tying a system like Iron Dome but that didn’t happen. Yet they still fired a hundred missiles. It’s just bought one side closer, alienated Gaza even more and Iran look a bit crap. I don’t think Iran cares about that, they knew almost of none of their drones and missiles would get through, I don’t think they are that daft. Nothing is getting past their air defence, especially with plenty of prior warning about exactly what was coming and when. It’s pure posturing to be seen as retaliating which they had every right to do. Even their statement to the UN says they are done, it’s over - providing Israel don’t retaliate to the retaliation. It was daft retaliating imo. And I think it is but also it was so ineffective. It shouldn’t have been that ineffective. The USAF and RAF will be thrilled too. Real life training, you can’t buy that shit and more data for future conflicts.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 14, 2024 9:05:59 GMT
I don’t think Iran cares about that, they knew almost of none of their drones and missiles would get through, I don’t think they are that daft. Nothing is getting past their air defence, especially with plenty of prior warning about exactly what was coming and when. It’s pure posturing to be seen as retaliating which they had every right to do. Even their statement to the UN says they are done, it’s over - providing Israel don’t retaliate to the retaliation. You don't think that Iran cares about how toothless they've proven themselves to be? In terms of a direct attack at least. They still have thier trusty old proxy wars. And I think it’s 50/50 now that thats where Israel will make sure they wipe them out. They’ve acted with more caution than I thought they would so far so there could be some hope they don’t hit Iran. But their proxies you’d imagine will get tatered either way now.
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Israel
Apr 14, 2024 9:09:41 GMT
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Post by scfcno1fan on Apr 14, 2024 9:09:41 GMT
Iran have basically said it’s a spectacle. They consider the matter closed, as they have responded directly based on the UN charter of self defence. It’s up to the UK, France, US etc to ensure Israel don’t do anything rash now. If they do, we should leave them to it… We are doing the exact opposite Well on our heads be it. We need to tell them, in no uncertain terms, not too escalate.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 14, 2024 9:10:57 GMT
We are doing the exact opposite Well on our heads be it. We need to tell them, in no uncertain terms, not too escalate. America has and I can only imagine so have we.
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Post by prettything on Apr 14, 2024 9:11:25 GMT
I don’t think the missiles were meant to hit anything. This was purely a show to the world that Iran retaliated to Israel, that is it. Iran have done this before . They haven't attacked Israel directly from Iran before, that's a new development No they haven’t . But it seems everyone was very prepared for it, doesn’t it? Almost like they were notified beforehand about where the strikes were going to land. One person injured.
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Post by foster on Apr 14, 2024 9:13:23 GMT
We are doing the exact opposite Well on our heads be it. We need to tell them, in no uncertain terms, not too escalate. We need to tell our politicians to stay the fuck out of it. I don't particularly care for Israel or Iran. If they want their war they can have it. But I want no part in it.
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Apr 14, 2024 9:13:53 GMT
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Post by superjw on Apr 14, 2024 9:13:53 GMT
I don’t think Iran cares about that, they knew almost of none of their drones and missiles would get through, I don’t think they are that daft. Nothing is getting past their air defence, especially with plenty of prior warning about exactly what was coming and when. It’s pure posturing to be seen as retaliating which they had every right to do. Even their statement to the UN says they are done, it’s over - providing Israel don’t retaliate to the retaliation. It was daft retaliating imo. And I think it is but also it was so ineffective. It shouldn’t have been that ineffective. The USAF and RAF will be thrilled too. Real life training, you can’t buy that shit and more data for future conflicts. They were always going to retaliate, that’s their right is it not? What’s good for the goose etc. It may well end up being being daft if Israel directly responds and causes more escalation, but Iran were always going to do this and made it quite clear
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Post by superjw on Apr 14, 2024 9:15:41 GMT
I don’t think Iran cares about that, they knew almost of none of their drones and missiles would get through, I don’t think they are that daft. Nothing is getting past their air defence, especially with plenty of prior warning about exactly what was coming and when. It’s pure posturing to be seen as retaliating which they had every right to do. Even their statement to the UN says they are done, it’s over - providing Israel don’t retaliate to the retaliation. You don't think that Iran cares about how toothless they've proven themselves to be? In terms of a direct attack at least. They still have thier trusty old proxy wars. No, because that attack wasn’t meant to do anything - they would have known full well the iron dome plus allies would have caught everything. If they wanted to inflict actual damage, surely they would have at least used surprise, rather than a well advertised retaliation
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Apr 14, 2024 9:16:35 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 14, 2024 9:16:35 GMT
They haven't attacked Israel directly from Iran before, that's a new development No they haven’t . But it seems everyone was very prepared for it, doesn’t it? Almost like they were notified beforehand about where the strikes were going to land. One person injured. They have a defence system in place anyway. It wasn’t just for this specific event 🤣 Their whole country is built to protect themselves.
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Apr 14, 2024 9:17:13 GMT
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Post by thisisouryear on Apr 14, 2024 9:17:13 GMT
We are doing the exact opposite Well on our heads be it. We need to tell them, in no uncertain terms, not too escalate. Yes but they have a right to defend themselves and war is big money
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Apr 14, 2024 9:17:50 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 14, 2024 9:17:50 GMT
It was daft retaliating imo. And I think it is but also it was so ineffective. It shouldn’t have been that ineffective. The USAF and RAF will be thrilled too. Real life training, you can’t buy that shit and more data for future conflicts. They were always going to retaliate, that’s their right is it not? What’s good for the goose etc. It may well end up being being daft if Israel directly responds and causes more escalation, but Iran were always going to do this and made it quite clear I don’t think they were. They haven’t before. And they did and when it came it was swatted away with ease despite being a pretty big well coordinated attack.
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Post by prettything on Apr 14, 2024 9:18:19 GMT
No they haven’t . But it seems everyone was very prepared for it, doesn’t it? Almost like they were notified beforehand about where the strikes were going to land. One person injured. They have a defence system in place anyway. It wasn’t just for this specific event 🤣 Their whole country is built to protect themselves. If only somebody told Iran they had one of those, guess we were the only ones to know this.
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Post by scfcno1fan on Apr 14, 2024 9:18:35 GMT
Well on our heads be it. We need to tell them, in no uncertain terms, not too escalate. We need to tell our politicians to stay the fuck out of it. I don't particularly care for Israel or Iran. If they want their war they can have it. But I want no part in it. Don’t disagree with this. As I said above if we tell them to heed, and they say fuck it, let Israel and Iran reap the consequences.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 14, 2024 9:19:15 GMT
You don't think that Iran cares about how toothless they've proven themselves to be? In terms of a direct attack at least. They still have thier trusty old proxy wars. No, because that attack wasn’t meant to do anything - they would have known full well the iron dome plus allies would have caught everything. If they wanted to inflict actual damage, surely they would have at least used surprise, rather than a well advertised retaliation The systems are in place anyway, how much surprise would there actually be? America and Israel will be monitoring everything all the time. There’s not much surprise they can have with that sort of attack.
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Israel
Apr 14, 2024 9:20:02 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 14, 2024 9:20:02 GMT
They have a defence system in place anyway. It wasn’t just for this specific event 🤣 Their whole country is built to protect themselves. If only somebody told Iran they had one of those, guess we were the only ones to know this. Well no, that’s why they’ve built a swarm strategy to try and overwhelm it but it failed….
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Post by thisisouryear on Apr 14, 2024 9:21:43 GMT
If only somebody told Iran they had one of those, guess we were the only ones to know this. Well no, that’s why they’ve built a swarm strategy to try and overwhelm it but it failed…. Embarrassingly so to, not even a pot hole
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Apr 14, 2024 9:22:02 GMT
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Post by scfcno1fan on Apr 14, 2024 9:22:02 GMT
If only somebody told Iran they had one of those, guess we were the only ones to know this. Well no, that’s why they’ve built a swarm strategy to try and overwhelm it but it failed…. Did Iran actually try and inflict any damage though. Bizarre yes, but surely they were just dipping their toe in the water and seeing what the response was.
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