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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Apr 13, 2024 22:10:58 GMT
I wonder if we will get an Islington based "queers for Iran" protest.
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Apr 13, 2024 22:11:03 GMT
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Post by serpico on Apr 13, 2024 22:11:03 GMT
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Post by stokeson on Apr 13, 2024 22:20:58 GMT
So now UK jets are involved shooting down drones. Why are we getting deeper and deeper in supporting this madness.................
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Post by prestwichpotter on Apr 13, 2024 22:28:59 GMT
The UK should have got involved by telling Israel it's an act of aggression to bomb another country's Embassy........
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Post by foster on Apr 13, 2024 22:30:08 GMT
So now UK jets are involved shooting down drones. Why are we getting deeper and deeper in supporting this madness................. Because we're Americas lapdog. As everyone already knows. We're an embarrassment.
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Apr 13, 2024 22:35:06 GMT
Post by desman2 on Apr 13, 2024 22:35:06 GMT
Apparently they have now launched ballistic missiles
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Apr 13, 2024 22:36:10 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 13, 2024 22:36:10 GMT
Some real life training for the RAF and USAF on how to counter a multi layered swarm attack.
Just a shame we have no real multi layered defence for own country. Do we need it? Dunno.
The best we’d hope for is the Type 45’s.
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Apr 13, 2024 22:36:58 GMT
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Post by gawa on Apr 13, 2024 22:36:58 GMT
Anything from Iranian sources? Are they attacking Israel or is it territories occupied by Israel in Lebannon and/or Syria.
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Apr 13, 2024 22:45:18 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 13, 2024 22:45:18 GMT
Anything from Iranian sources? Are they attacking Israel or is it territories occupied by Israel in Lebannon and/or Syria. Yes they’ve issued a statement via their UN mission 🤣 Even if they hadn’t and were using Iranian drone, Israel imo has every right to go after where they get them from. It’ll be interesting to see if anything gets through, I’m not sure it’s designed to. But we shall see.
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Apr 13, 2024 22:53:09 GMT
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Post by gawa on Apr 13, 2024 22:53:09 GMT
Hopefully no innocent civillians hurt.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 13, 2024 22:59:09 GMT
Hopefully no innocent civillians hurt. Iran has said that this ends it (unless Israel retaliates). That’s what makes me believe it’s a bit performative. But I’m not sure Israel will see it as that as it was a massive attack. Is the statement bullshit because the initial wave of drones (seemingly) have been picked apart outside Israel? Or did Iran take that into account to look like it was doing something but knew it was easily stopped? Stuff is reaching Israel though but again as you’d expect and if it’s not in numbers then the hope certainly from Israel is that their systems will work. Maybe that’s Iran’s hope too?
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Apr 13, 2024 23:15:29 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 13, 2024 23:15:29 GMT
Another thing worth considering is, was Iran expecting the level of coordination from America, the UK and Jordan to act as a goalkeeper? And that’s just the nations we know about now.
Because from the sound of it that’s what has happened.
I would expect they probably did think that would happen especially the Yanks.
And if you’re lobbing explosives over a sovereign nation like Jordan then they have every right to shoot them down too imo.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2024 23:22:27 GMT
Hopefully no innocent civillians hurt. Iran has said that this ends it (unless Israel retaliates). That’s what makes me believe it’s a bit performative. But I’m not sure Israel will see it as that as it was a massive attack. Is the statement bullshit because the initial wave of drones (seemingly) have been picked apart outside Israel? Or did Iran take that into account to look like it was doing something but knew it was easily stopped? Stuff is reaching Israel though but again as you’d expect and if it’s not in numbers then the hope certainly from Israel is that their systems will work. Maybe that’s Iran’s hope too? I personally think that Iran knew that the majority of what they fired would be intercepted. Iran doesn’t really do all-out war. They like to fund terrorist groups to sew anarchy while pretending it’s nothing to do with them.
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Post by desman2 on Apr 13, 2024 23:23:32 GMT
This guy seems to have a decent channel
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Apr 13, 2024 23:31:57 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 13, 2024 23:31:57 GMT
Iran has said that this ends it (unless Israel retaliates). That’s what makes me believe it’s a bit performative. But I’m not sure Israel will see it as that as it was a massive attack. Is the statement bullshit because the initial wave of drones (seemingly) have been picked apart outside Israel? Or did Iran take that into account to look like it was doing something but knew it was easily stopped? Stuff is reaching Israel though but again as you’d expect and if it’s not in numbers then the hope certainly from Israel is that their systems will work. Maybe that’s Iran’s hope too? I personally think that Iran knew that the majority of what they fired would be intercepted. Iran doesn’t really do all-out war. They like to fund terrorist groups to sew anarchy while pretending it’s nothing to do with them. They don’t but this attack is very out of character even if it is designed to fail. And by that I think it’s safe to say that in the western military world there’s a worry that swarms of cheap drones combined with more expensive and powerful missiles could overrun air defence systems. So in this case Israel or in other case a carrier group. Iran is geared up for this sort of war and is probably the country most geared up for it in the world. They’ve not done anything like this before and I really don’t think Israel will be like “yeah lads you said that was the end of it so let’s call it quits”. It’s a massive escalation really.
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Apr 14, 2024 0:02:18 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 14, 2024 0:02:18 GMT
Reports of multiple missile strikes now. So some definitely got through.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 14, 2024 0:39:50 GMT
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Apr 14, 2024 1:39:56 GMT
Post by wannabee on Apr 14, 2024 1:39:56 GMT
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Apr 14, 2024 5:57:05 GMT
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Post by musik on Apr 14, 2024 5:57:05 GMT
On Swe text-tv news. Israel attacked by both Iran and Lebanon.
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Apr 14, 2024 6:04:03 GMT
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Post by foster on Apr 14, 2024 6:04:03 GMT
On Swe text-tv news. Israel attacked by both Iran and Lebanon. Hezbollah, which is nothing new.
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Apr 14, 2024 6:46:58 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 14, 2024 6:46:58 GMT
So it looks like it was pretty much a failure for Iran and looks pretty embarrassing.
America is trying leverage its goalkeeper act to avoid Israel retaliating which is good.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Apr 14, 2024 7:00:07 GMT
So it looks like it was pretty much a failure for Iran and looks pretty embarrassing. America is trying leverage its goalkeeper act to avoid Israel retaliating which is good. The whole thing looked pretty performative to me. You bomb our Embassy, we need to show the world it’s unacceptable without going too far down the rabbit hole….
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Post by knype on Apr 14, 2024 7:02:31 GMT
Nah, Iran are testing the waters to see how the Middle East reacts and who they back, Iran now know that they get wiped out
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Apr 14, 2024 7:02:56 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 14, 2024 7:02:56 GMT
So it looks like it was pretty much a failure for Iran and looks pretty embarrassing. America is trying leverage its goalkeeper act to avoid Israel retaliating which is good. The whole thing looked pretty performative to me. You bomb our Embassy, we need to show the world it’s unacceptable without going too far down the rabbit hole…. Still it’s bought an alliance together of western and Arab countries and if Netanyahu uses it right (he won’t) they have the platform now to get more weapons and push Gaza even further down the agenda. I think it was a strategic error. And as much as I want the Shahed facilities blowing the fuck up, I think Israel retaliating is too. Build on the cooperation with other Arab nations and isolate Iran that way.
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Apr 14, 2024 7:04:11 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 14, 2024 7:04:11 GMT
Nah, Iran are testing the waters to see how the Middle East reacts and who they back, Iran now know that they get wiped out It’s looking like a massive error. Just a shame of the who the fuck face in charge of Israel is.
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Post by knype on Apr 14, 2024 7:06:33 GMT
The whole thing looked pretty performative to me. You bomb our Embassy, we need to show the world it’s unacceptable without going too far down the rabbit hole…. Still it’s bought an alliance together of western and Arab countries and if Netanyahu uses it right (he won’t) they have the platform now to get more weapons and push Gaza even further down the agenda. I think it was a strategic error. And as much as I want the Shahed facilities blowing the fuck up, I think Israel retaliating is too. Build on the cooperation with other Arab nations and isolate Iran that way. Like what was happening with Israel and Sauid just before the Hamas attacks orchestrated and funded by Iran to derail the peace pact
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Apr 14, 2024 7:10:09 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 14, 2024 7:10:09 GMT
Still it’s bought an alliance together of western and Arab countries and if Netanyahu uses it right (he won’t) they have the platform now to get more weapons and push Gaza even further down the agenda. I think it was a strategic error. And as much as I want the Shahed facilities blowing the fuck up, I think Israel retaliating is too. Build on the cooperation with other Arab nations and isolate Iran that way. Like what was happening with Israel and Sauid just before the Hamas attacks orchestrated and funded by Iran to derail the peace pact Yeah Iran knows what it’s doing and Netanyahu keeps falling for their traps trying to look hard. They had to respond after the 7th but again they were given a pr open goal and totally missed it. Don’t make the same mistake twice.
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Post by superjw on Apr 14, 2024 7:42:01 GMT
Iran had a right to respond to Israel attacking right? Isn’t this how it works? Or perhaps the west doesn’t believe their own narrative doesn’t apply to so called “inferior” or “enemy” states.
Iran knew what they were doing, they warned and announced what and when they would retaliate. They wouldn’t have expected their cheap and slow drones would have done anything other than waste western money on air defence. Political posturing to retaliate for the attack and they will be seeing if Israel retaliate themselves.
If they do, well we are in the magic roundabout aren’t we - it’s now ball in the court of the US to try and prevent israel from doing anything. They bombed an embassy (act of war itself tbh) Iran responded with drones that didn’t really do anything. Iran will be watching whether the US say the political equivalent of “let’s call it quits lads”
If that doesn’t happen, then Iran can blame Israel for fully escalating the Middle East and kick off either a flurry of retaliatory attacks from both sides, or War.
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Apr 14, 2024 7:51:53 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 14, 2024 7:51:53 GMT
Iran had a right to respond to Israel attacking right? Isn’t this how it works? Or perhaps the west doesn’t believe their own narrative doesn’t apply to so called “inferior” or “enemy” states. Iran knew what they were doing, they warned and announced what and when they would retaliate. They wouldn’t have expected their cheap and slow drones would have done anything other than waste western money on air defence. Political posturing to retaliate for the attack and they will be seeing if Israel retaliate themselves. If they do, well we are in the magic roundabout aren’t we - it’s now ball in the court of the US to try and prevent israel from doing anything. They bombed an embassy (act of war itself tbh) Iran responded with drones that didn’t really do anything. Iran will be watching whether the US say the political equivalent of “let’s call it quits lads” If that doesn’t happen, then Iran can blame Israel for fully escalating the Middle East and kick off either a flurry of retaliatory attacks from both sides, or War. They fired 100 missiles at them. That mainly largely failed too. That’s pretty embarrassing. Of course the drones are there as a way of tying a system like Iron Dome but that didn’t happen. Yet they still fired a hundred missiles. It’s just bought one side closer, alienated Gaza even more and Iran look a bit crap.
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Post by oggyoggy on Apr 14, 2024 8:01:05 GMT
I really hope Israel doesn’t retaliate.
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